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To Christians Who Sin or Who Struggle. My Freedom, and Message of Hope to You.

 
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Can I tell you part of my story to freedom? I met Jesus a long time ago. I had a very supernatural conversion incident.

Maybe your sin is different, but at the root it is the same.

At one time I was in your place, a captive to sin, daily sin for 30+ years, multiple times a day. Lust, masturbation, Etc.

I feel so bad, so guilty, how could I do this to God. Nothing brought relief.

I confessed to friends, family, pastors. I wrote letters to Christian leaders, including Pat Robertson, I even fasted for 30 days. Nothing brought me freedom. Every day I failed.

Then one day I had an idea. I knew this Christian lady from Russia. I had seen her pray and get instant answers (this is a gift given only to some).

So, I go to her and ask her if she will fast and pray with me for one week, that I might be closer to God, to receive some kind of brokenness.

Then about 2, maybe 3 weeks later, without me connecting the dots, not even remembering the fasting and prayers, my life literally feel apart.

Car accidents, losing a 20-year job, lose friends, relationships with kids and family fall apart too. But my job... That was the killer, without it, I can't support my family, I would fail them. I couldn't bear it.

I was so crushed. I decided I had had enough; I would end this now. I'm done.

I grab my shotgun, load it with d ought and walk into the woods. I buried the stock in the dirt, asked God to please forgive me for what I'm about to do went straight on, and put the barrel ion my mouth, and pushed the trigger with my left thumb.

A few minutes later, I waken, and sight comes thru my eyes again. I'm laying flat on the ground, and I think, "I'm not in heaven, and I'm not in hell, oh no, I'm in the same place".

I notice blood all over, the gun laying perfectly parallel to me, on my right side? As if someone had been holding it, or guiding it, and laid it there, by me.

I'm cold... I grab the shotgun, wrap it in the blanket, and walk back to my car, placing it in the trunk.

Every step, soaking the ground with blood. My pants are bloody, my boots full of blood, my car gets soaked, it's everywhere.

I get to my house, no one is home. I leave a trail of blood with each step. I go upstairs to my bed room, I'm so tired. I lay down, but then get up. I walk into the bathroom, and see my face for the first time, and notice my injury. Half my face is gone, on the right side.

I hear someone enter the front door. I close and lock the bathroom door. I hear hurried steps, and someone shouts my name (Dad)...

My son knocks on the door. "Dad are you alright, what's all this blood". Yes, I'm ok, just call your mom, she will know what to do. "Dad open the door, or I'll kick it down".

My son sees my face and runs to the phone, the ambulance and police come, and a helicopter flies me to Harborview. I'm there for 1-2 months, 3 or more surgeries. Lots of blood lost, as I had severed the carotid artery.

Then I went home... How is this possible, why am I alive? What does God think of me now? First, I live a life of backslidden, sin, and then try to kill myself! Is He mad at me, hate me, or what?

Every day my family has to clean my wound, a hole 3-4 inches into my head, opens up, and needs daily care, until it gets fixed and heals completely. Then one day...

I'm all alone. They all go shopping, and also need a break, from the intensity of the situation.

As I'm sitting at the table, I look outside, and see the rain drops falling to the ground. THEN... I hear a voice.

He says "Rod, why do you believe what you believe and who taught you". I say "Lord I don't know, maybe I just picked up things on the way, as time went by".

He says "Do you think TRUTH, goes from THE MIND of one man, and into the mind of another"? I said "No Lord. I believe TRUTH is REVEALED".

He says "Do you remember the story of David, on his rooftop"

"Yes, Lord I remember". "Do you remember what David wanted to do, and what I told him". "Yes Lord, he wanted to build you a house".

"And I said NO". "But another would build my house". "He would have a son" "NOW WATCH ME FULFILL THIS SPOKEN WORD/PROMISE".

One day David is on his rooftop, and he sees a woman, and says..."Get her for me"...

***No one but God could arrange these circumstances in order to fulfill this promise, her there at the right time, David seeing her, and liking her.

Then He says to me, "Do you have a problem with me using sin, to fulfill my will". I say "No Lord, for you created the law, you could make it vanish also, it is not possible for you to break it, for you are above it".

Rod "I don't want you to ever put your sin above my love and grace for you. Don't ever do it again"!

"IT IS NOT YOUR JOB, TO CHANGE YOURSELF, that is MY JOB; I am the farmer, you are the vine, I am the shepherd, you are the sheep.

WHEN I want to change something in your life, I will bring it to your attention, and you JUST AGREE WITH ME"... "You just rest."


Allow me to elaborate on the freedom from sin, and how that occurred. After recovering, I still found I struggled so...

I'm driving, and lusting. I yell out loud at God "when are you going to help me with this"!

All of a sudden, I hear this statement "why don't you tell me the truth". I say "what truth"…Then my understanding is opened and I SEE!

I say OK Lord… "I don't want you to interfere, I love my sin and while I'm troubled about it, I don't want you to interfere" leave my sin alone.

Do you know what happened? I somehow forgot all those thoughts about sin and lust, if they came back I would confess this new-found truth and somehow my mind would be distracted from this sin again. This went on for a couple days, and then I found myself free. FREE after YEARS of DAILY STRUGGLE.

***This was 12-15 years ago; I have been free ever since. I live the life of Hebrews CH4.



**** I hope this helps/blesses you. Just rest. Sin is dead to us, even if we commit sin, it is DEAD, and it has been paid for. IT has no power over us, it has no meaning for us.

Christ took it to the cross and killed it in the flesh, you NOW live in spirit, like changing cars. You went from a car, and now sit in a plane. The car (flesh and sin, which is in the flesh, can't fly, only a plane can fly).

You have been crucified in Christ, that is who you are now.

But you still live in a BODY that is tied to sin. You cannot LET it have influence over you. No one condones or wants to sin, but When and if you sin, COUNT IT AS DEAD, as if it didn't happen. JUST walk on...

It says Boo, and you just ignore it, it is dead.

This was 12-15 years ago, and I've been free ever since.


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Thanks for sharing this.

How are things for you now? How ya been?
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You are correct. It
Is not about sin. It is about relationship through spending time with him, enjoying his creation, and saying yes to joining him in his work when the Spirit moves in you. Has nothing to do with a list of don’ts. Seek his face and he will heal you. Seek him and the other things will work themselves out. He isn’t waiting for you to sin less so that he can love you. He is waiting for you to recognize who he is and to love him back. It’s not that complicated, but it does take dedication.
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Thanks for sharing this.

How are things for you now? How ya been?
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I'm doing very good. Thank You.
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You are correct. It
Is not about sin. It is about relationship through spending time with him, enjoying his creation, and saying yes to joining him in his work when the Spirit moves in you. Has nothing to do with a list of don’ts. Seek his face and he will heal you. Seek him and the other things will work themselves out. He isn’t waiting for you to sin less so that he can love you. He is waiting for you to recognize who he is and to love him back. It’s not that complicated, but it does take dedication.
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He instructed me to come to him for everything. But He said when I come, and when He brought something to my attention, I had to come with brutal Honesty, and if I didn't then I was being just like a religious pharisee. He wanted me naked before Him, nothing covering for my actions or excused. Just say it like He said it, and trust in His love completely.

When I knew I didn't trust Him, like He wanted I knew He would change that too. And one day while I was driving, He said "You still aren't trusting me". I said I know Lord I just can't find...and immediately I felt a change inside, and now I trust him with everything.
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I told him

“Lord I just cat be all christianny and religiony and di all that blabbing and blahing and reading the bible like its god or reading other mens books like they are God like others do”

He said

“Good. Its high time you grew up”

Turns out church is fir toddlers.

Milk sucking babies who think the bible is God
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I told him

“Lord I just cat be all christianny and religiony and di all that blabbing and blahing and reading the bible like its god or reading other mens books like they are God like others do”

He said

“Good. Its high time you grew up”

Turns out church is fir toddlers.

Milk sucking babies who think the bible is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82005935



I don't do churchianity stuff, as far as the scriptures are concerned, I love them, they were written by brothers who came before us, and who have a testimony of Jesus. BUT the bible can't take Jesus place.

Also the bible is God's words, but that is different / and the same, as "The Word of God". (this is hard to describe) Same but different.
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I told him

“Lord I just cat be all christianny and religiony and di all that blabbing and blahing and reading the bible like its god or reading other mens books like they are God like others do”

He said

“Good. Its high time you grew up”

Turns out church is fir toddlers.

Milk sucking babies who think the bible is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82005935



I don't do churchianity stuff, as far as the scriptures are concerned, I love them, they were written by brothers who came before us, and who have a testimony of Jesus. BUT the bible can't take Jesus place.

Also the bible is God's words, but that is different / and the same, as "The Word of God". (this is hard to describe) Same but different.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79953351


They have made a CULT out of the bible the very same way the pharisees made a CULT out of the old testament.

They worship the bible as if its God himself.

Thats idolatry in its basic essence.

Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.

God. Jesus....

HE is the WORD


Not the bible.

The bible is a book.

It is not God

And reading it does not make one closer to god

The letter KILLS

Just look at the mess it made if your earlier life before you grew up too.

Made a hell of a mess of mine too.

Till one day I burnt it.

And said “ok God...Jesus....NO MORE BOOKS....from now on its just you ans me. No pastors....no books...no sermons...no church...just YOU...lets be FRIENDS....no more if this “Big scary angry God and miserable cowering sinner....BUT FRIENDS. And friends are ipen and honest with eachother. Friends forgive wachother. Friends look out for eachother and feiends TRUST eachother. So LETS BE FEIENDS...no more blubbering and cowering...moses and you were friends...we can be too...and HE DISNT HAVE A BIBLE EITHER!...so...what do you reckon?”

And since that day we have been best mates and he never lets me down and I can truly be myself with Him. He has an awesome sense if humour too.
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Zinc, vitamin C and D.
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God bless you for sharing. A little message that has helped me today. Thank you.
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Nevermind wrong thread.
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Thank you OP.
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I told him

“Lord I just cat be all christianny and religiony and di all that blabbing and blahing and reading the bible like its god or reading other mens books like they are God like others do”

He said

“Good. Its high time you grew up”

Turns out church is fir toddlers.

Milk sucking babies who think the bible is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82005935



I don't do churchianity stuff, as far as the scriptures are concerned, I love them, they were written by brothers who came before us, and who have a testimony of Jesus. BUT the bible can't take Jesus place.

Also the bible is God's words, but that is different / and the same, as "The Word of God". (this is hard to describe) Same but different.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79953351


They have made a CULT out of the bible the very same way the pharisees made a CULT out of the old testament.

They worship the bible as if its God himself.

Thats idolatry in its basic essence.

Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.

God. Jesus....

HE is the WORD


Not the bible.

The bible is a book.

It is not God

And reading it does not make one closer to god

The letter KILLS

Just look at the mess it made if your earlier life before you grew up too.

Made a hell of a mess of mine too.

Till one day I burnt it.

And said “ok God...Jesus....NO MORE BOOKS....from now on its just you ans me. No pastors....no books...no sermons...no church...just YOU...lets be FRIENDS....no more if this “Big scary angry God and miserable cowering sinner....BUT FRIENDS. And friends are ipen and honest with eachother. Friends forgive wachother. Friends look out for eachother and feiends TRUST eachother. So LETS BE FEIENDS...no more blubbering and cowering...moses and you were friends...we can be too...and HE DISNT HAVE A BIBLE EITHER!...so...what do you reckon?”

And since that day we have been best mates and he never lets me down and I can truly be myself with Him. He has an awesome sense if humour too.
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Brother
I would agree with most of that.

But we must be careful, the line between really following God / Jesus and Religion is easy to cross. You can do that and not even know it.

Also people who really love God, who have good intentions have become trapped. The revival which shall come, I believe will be to the true church (Eclesia), within the much larger church system.

Concerning the scriptures, when we read them God can make them alive to us.

Plus... The scriptures are a written document, written by men, but the words are words of God.

Even better is when God speaks to us, these are living words, and can change us.

Thus Genesis CH 1 says, God spoke "Light be" and light became.

Then that word (that created the light in Ch 1 of genesis, BECAME flesh, says John in the book of John CH 1
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Thank you OP.
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U R Welcome
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God bless you for sharing. A little message that has helped me today. Thank you.
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ahh I'm glad. Bless u
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The head of the body is infected with infection

There is a sickness of the head of the body

Followers of Paul’s doctrine at the leadership

Are responsible for allowing this sickness to be introduced to the body

We have to pray that this leadership seeks help and heals
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I told him

“Lord I just cat be all christianny and religiony and di all that blabbing and blahing and reading the bible like its god or reading other mens books like they are God like others do”

He said

“Good. Its high time you grew up”

Turns out church is fir toddlers.

Milk sucking babies who think the bible is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82005935



I don't do churchianity stuff, as far as the scriptures are concerned, I love them, they were written by brothers who came before us, and who have a testimony of Jesus. BUT the bible can't take Jesus place.

Also the bible is God's words, but that is different / and the same, as "The Word of God". (this is hard to describe) Same but different.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79953351


They have made a CULT out of the bible the very same way the pharisees made a CULT out of the old testament.

They worship the bible as if its God himself.

Thats idolatry in its basic essence.

Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.

God. Jesus....

HE is the WORD


Not the bible.

The bible is a book.

It is not God

And reading it does not make one closer to god

The letter KILLS

Just look at the mess it made if your earlier life before you grew up too.

Made a hell of a mess of mine too.

Till one day I burnt it.

And said “ok God...Jesus....NO MORE BOOKS....from now on its just you ans me. No pastors....no books...no sermons...no church...just YOU...lets be FRIENDS....no more if this “Big scary angry God and miserable cowering sinner....BUT FRIENDS. And friends are ipen and honest with eachother. Friends forgive wachother. Friends look out for eachother and feiends TRUST eachother. So LETS BE FEIENDS...no more blubbering and cowering...moses and you were friends...we can be too...and HE DISNT HAVE A BIBLE EITHER!...so...what do you reckon?”

And since that day we have been best mates and he never lets me down and I can truly be myself with Him. He has an awesome sense if humour too.
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Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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I am sorry this happened to you but at the same time thank you for sharing your story. The truth about sin is already dead is exactly what i needed to hear right now.
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I am sorry this happened to you but at the same time thank you for sharing your story. The truth about sin is already dead is exactly what i needed to hear right now.
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I am glad. Blessings to u
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I told him



HE is the WORD


Not the bible.

The bible is a book.

It is not God


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82005935


Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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I for one, love the scriptures, it tells us of early believers. But I agree with the previous poster, it cant' take Jesus place, it did not die for us. Yet we honor and cherish it for what it is. It is as the scriptures say, God breathed. But God speaking to US is of great importance. That spoken word, not just the written word is needed. Many have abused that privilege, pretending that God spoke to them. They have given God a bad name, by their own misdeeds.
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Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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Early christians had the old testament and preached Christ from that:

[link to www.newtestamentchristians.com (secure)]
Just†Me recomends:
Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com]
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Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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Early christians had the old testament and preached Christ from that:

[link to www.newtestamentchristians.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Just†Me



I know what your saying, but actually they didn't have a bible even OT as we do today.

They memorized portions, but not many could afford a scribe, or even have access to scrolls.

Then in the 1400s, after many thousands of years the bible made its way into the hands of believers.

What did they have to grow spiritually from the time of Christs Resurrection until 1500AD ? THE SPIRIT and His leading, and His voice



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The head of the body is infected with infection

There is a sickness of the head of the body

Followers of Paul’s doctrine at the leadership

Are responsible for allowing this sickness to be introduced to the body

We have to pray that this leadership seeks help and heals
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IF we do away with Paul, we have to do away with Jesus, WHY?

Because the same people who testified of Paul, testified of Jesus, even the 12....

So erase Paul because you don't agree with him, and you think the early disciples including the 12 lied, when they testified about Paul.

Then maybe they lied about Jesus too (If I use your logic). So throw Jesus out too.


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Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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Early christians had the old testament and preached Christ from that:

[link to www.newtestamentchristians.com (secure)]
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Oh and one more point OK.

Also very few could even read until a few hundred years ago. Especially Greek, heeebrew, or Aramaic.


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Thank you for sharing your testimony.
This resonated with me.
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Re: To Christians Who Sin or Who Struggle. My Freedom, and Message of Hope to You.
Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
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Early christians had the old testament and preached Christ from that:

[link to www.newtestamentchristians.com (secure)]
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I know what your saying, but actually they didn't have a bible even OT as we do today.

They memorized portions, but not many could afford a scribe, or even have access to scrolls.

Then in the 1400s, after many thousands of years the bible made its way into the hands of believers.

What did they have to grow spiritually from the time of Christs Resurrection until 1500AD ? THE SPIRIT and His leading, and His voice




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And then everyone forgot God and began worshipping the scriptures and crating cults and from that thousands of fighting squabbling denominations were spawned and the true church was shattered and it began to be about money and control and pride and arrogance.

Like with the pharisees in jesus day.

If you want to know God.

Throw away your bible

And ask him in person ....instead of through a division causing book which is nothing more than a manual on how to start a cult and make money and control other peoples minds.
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01/29/2022 05:18 PM
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Thank you for sharing your testimony.
This resonated with me.
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I'm glad..
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01/29/2022 05:19 PM
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Re: To Christians Who Sin or Who Struggle. My Freedom, and Message of Hope to You.
Early chrstians has no bible.

Middle ages christians had no bible.

They could not “read the word”

They KNEW THE WORD.



There's a reason it was called the dark ages. People craved to know scriptures, they were persecuted, murdered for even having one verse of it. And they only knew what they were told or allowed to know. So many lives given for the Word and for it to be at your fingertips yet you disregaurd. It's precious and it's teachings should be absorbed by the believer, practiced, and shared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781814


Early christians had the old testament and preached Christ from that:

[link to www.newtestamentchristians.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Just†Me



I know what your saying, but actually they didn't have a bible even OT as we do today.

They memorized portions, but not many could afford a scribe, or even have access to scrolls.

Then in the 1400s, after many thousands of years the bible made its way into the hands of believers.

What did they have to grow spiritually from the time of Christs Resurrection until 1500AD ? THE SPIRIT and His leading, and His voice




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79953351


And then everyone forgot God and began worshipping the scriptures and crating cults and from that thousands of fighting squabbling denominations were spawned and the true church was shattered and it began to be about money and control and pride and arrogance.

Like with the pharisees in jesus day.

If you want to know God.

Throw away your bible

And ask him in person ....instead of through a division causing book which is nothing more than a manual on how to start a cult and make money and control other peoples minds.
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I think doctrines that divide (most do) and denominations are evil
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01/29/2022 05:29 PM
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Re: To Christians Who Sin or Who Struggle. My Freedom, and Message of Hope to You.
Yeah thats pretty much my last vice, and its wanning, I still jerk off quite a bit, but its abhorrent. I look at the women and feel empty for what they have done to themselves for a living, and how they found their precious souls contorted and lost to do so. Then I soak it up for sins of the flesh.

After my fathers stroke and recovery and knowing how he literally had angles over him that were seen visually by a family member and revealed to me in a dream. A certain peace came over me.

I am not over my flesh addiction, but its certainly dying out. God appears to be directing me to a more humble life one I desire. I drive past my old church from my youth and can hear the hymns in my head, and see the smiling faces of the elder attendees who are now mostly passed away and a certain comfort comes over me.

I think I will take up fly fishing this spring and summer, carry a little bible with me, and listen to the water sort of like a river runs through it. Something about the pastor character in that movie, moves me to tears at times and reminds me of a child hood pastor who was so connected to god it was awe inspiring. Many years later doing things my way, I realize I cannot do it without God, Jeasus, the Saints, and the living embodiments of Christ we see in certain people we witness.

Thanks OP, this gave me a new impulse to do better, be better, and look forward to the day all is whole in the loving arms of those loved and lost.





GLP