When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? | |
Plant Goddess
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61761870 United States 02/08/2022 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Not too long ago, young boys were referred to as "Master" while the fathers was called "Mister" followed by their first name. That was still occurring in professional medical settings up until the late 1970s, believe it or not. I used to see old charts in the clinics where I worked with these patient titles on them up until the EHR system was set up around 1993-95. Anyway, why this similar trend appears to making a comeback is kind of strange. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80638704 United States 02/08/2022 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It is not proper in a formal sense. In the same way as wearing a sport coat, a button & collar shirt, but no necktie, is not proper in a formal sense. But it has become a moderately respectful, yet still casual, form of address through widespread use. Usually among those who have a somewhat familiar acquaintance. Like for a regular customer at a bar, addressed by the barkeep. To just start calling someone that way, when it's a first encounter, seems a bit too familiar for some people's liking. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65113924 Canada 02/08/2022 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley I think that started back in the 50's, 60's with homo's. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80481033 02/08/2022 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It is NOT acceptable. Its fucking stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80162448 02/08/2022 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It's been done in the South (USA) for decades, when addressing someone who you know well enough to call by their first name, except it's considered slightly more formal and respectful. This^ Decades upon decades. It’s given. I was actually surprised at this thread. Some people are just fucking ignorant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82114053 02/08/2022 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Tennessee born and raised, 5 1/2 years military. I am 41 years of age. I answer everyone sir or ma'am no matter the age. I refer to any adult male whom I do not know their last name by Mr. First name. It's a sign of long lost respect for strangers. I was taught to treat others as I would like to be given. If someone in this day and age even utters the pre sir name with "Mr..." then sir or ma'am be honored, you just witnessed a deer shedding its horns! Good day Mr. Worley! |
St Tidbits the Odd
User ID: 77547432 Canada 02/08/2022 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Who knows who gives a f*** dude probably some black lady calling her older sugar daddy that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73614226 I give a fuck. I'm not okay with the dumbing down of society. Entirely depends on the scenario. AT our local Legion people use 'Mr.' in a way to bely the fact that they dislike the other... Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80223763 02/08/2022 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It’s not acceptable; it’s a way to talk down to people and belittle them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76509910 United States 02/08/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82062480 United States 02/08/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Not too long ago, young boys were referred to as "Master" while the fathers was called "Mister" followed by their first name. That was still occurring in professional medical settings up until the late 1970s, believe it or not. I used to see old charts in the clinics where I worked with these patient titles on them up until the EHR system was set up around 1993-95. Anyway, why this similar trend appears to making a comeback is kind of strange. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61761870 Came here to say this. I used to get letters from family as a kid always addressed to "Master". From now on it will be my preferred pronoun lol |
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nautonier
User ID: 76466747 United States 02/08/2022 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Last time I did that was when I was in kindergarten and couldn't pronounce my polish teacher's last name. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37405403 United States 02/08/2022 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? In prison, they call you by your last name as if it's your first. It's to remove individual personification. Quoting: CitizenPerth™ This is true in the miltary and sometimes elsewhere. IMHO, it's totally unacceptable. Either you're on a first name basis or you're addressed by Nr/Miss/Mrs and your surname. The media have picked up this awful habit of addressing by surname without a title. It's disgusting and also very confusing when they are describing multiple family members. It eliminates the distinction of being male or female too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82114053 02/08/2022 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Tennessee born and raised, 5 1/2 years military. I am 41 years of age. I answer everyone sir or ma'am no matter the age. I refer to any adult male whom I do not know their last name by Mr. First name. It's a sign of long lost respect for strangers. I was taught to treat others as I would like to be given. If someone in this day and age even utters the pre sir name with "Mr..." then sir or ma'am be honored, you just witnessed a deer shedding its horns! Good day Mr. Worley! Also, you are way too engulfed with getting older. Its actually quite humbling. Enjoy it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82114053 02/08/2022 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Tennessee born and raised, 5 1/2 years military. I am 41 years of age. I answer everyone sir or ma'am no matter the age. I refer to any adult male whom I do not know their last name by Mr. First name. It's a sign of long lost respect for strangers. I was taught to treat others as I would like to be given. If someone in this day and age even utters the pre sir name with "Mr..." then sir or ma'am be honored, you just witnessed a deer shedding its horns! Good day Mr. Worley! Also, you are way too engulfed with getting older. Its actually quite humbling. Enjoy it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82114053 02/08/2022 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Tennessee born and raised, 5 1/2 years military. I am 41 years of age. I answer everyone sir or ma'am no matter the age. I refer to any adult male whom I do not know their last name by Mr. First name. It's a sign of long lost respect for strangers. I was taught to treat others as I would like to be given. If someone in this day and age even utters the pre sir name with "Mr..." then sir or ma'am be honored, you just witnessed a deer shedding its horns! Good day Mr. Worley! Also, you are way too engulfed with getting older. Its actually quite humbling. Enjoy it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82114053 02/08/2022 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley Tennessee born and raised, 5 1/2 years military. I am 41 years of age. I answer everyone sir or ma'am no matter the age. I refer to any adult male whom I do not know their last name by Mr. First name. It's a sign of long lost respect for strangers. I was taught to treat others as I would like to be given. If someone in this day and age even utters the pre sir name with "Mr..." then sir or ma'am be honored, you just witnessed a deer shedding its horns! Good day Mr. Worley! Also, you are way too engulfed with getting older. Its actually quite humbling. Enjoy it I did not do that |
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Possum70
User ID: 80263766 United States 02/08/2022 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? always been that way in southern states. Last name is formal for non-aquatinted. Mr./Mrs. followed by first name is polite from kids/subordinates to known adults/elders. Are you not from America? Maybe Minnesota or some heathen state akin to it. Hell, a kid from up there’d call his Mother by her first name, shoot dice and gamble agin her. Godless bunch up there. |
Clarence Worley
(OP) User ID: 44883436 United States 02/08/2022 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? always been that way in southern states. Last name is formal for non-aquatinted. Mr./Mrs. followed by first name is polite from kids/subordinates to known adults/elders. Are you not from America? Maybe Minnesota or some heathen state akin to it. Hell, a kid from up there’d call his Mother by her first name, shoot dice and gamble agin her. Godless bunch up there. Quoting: Possum70 Apparently for some, the civil war never ended! "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." -Edward Bernays |
Clarence Worley
(OP) User ID: 44883436 United States 02/08/2022 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It's been done in the South (USA) for decades, when addressing someone who you know well enough to call by their first name, except it's considered slightly more formal and respectful. Interesting. I won't consider these people ignorant then. I guess it was me being ignorant of southern culture. I had no idea. I wish the ladies at that doctors office would have told me it was a "southern thing"...then I would have known & understood. They just looked at me like I was some sort of anger junkie...even tho all I said was that it was an incorrect way of referring to someone. Oh well, live and learn. Anyway, thanks for the explanation. I get it now. "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." -Edward Bernays |
hellno2
User ID: 81940196 United States 02/09/2022 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? They did something like that in the after school program when I was in elementary school. The staff members in charge of the after school classes were essentially daycare workers who lacked the credentials of actual teachers but because one after school staff looked after a group of students in an actual classroom, it functioned like a class and they acted like teachers. The school differentiated them as after school staff rather than true teachers by calling them Prefix Firstname rather than Prefix Surname. For example we take the name James Smith - if he was an after school staff he would be referred to as Mr. James, but if he was an actual teacher he would be referred to as Mr. Smith. Last Edited by hellno2 on 02/09/2022 02:34 AM |
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User ID: 77981693 United States 02/09/2022 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? It's meant to convey a degree of respect while maintaining social distance, i.e. not wanting to appear overly familiar. Quoting: Larry D. Croc It's a very common part of the social dynamic in the southern states and intended as a positive gesture. Particularly useful in places like Louisiana where pronouncing Cajun/French derivative last names if you're not native to the area leads to butchering pronunciation. Which, ironic given your post, is pretty disrespectful. Or head on up north to somewhere like Chicago or Milwaukee and see how you do with a last name like Pryzbilski... This. It's taught to children in the South to convey respect to adults and carries over to adulthood. Wonder why OP even has an issue with it. All comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
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User ID: 77981693 United States 02/09/2022 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did it become acceptable to address men as "Mr" and then their First name instead of their last name? Everywhere I go now I am addressed formally by my first name instead of my last name. So for example, if my name was James Smith, I would be addressed as "Mr James" instead of "Mr Smith". How & why did this become the norm?!? I don't get it! Quoting: Clarence Worley It's been done in the South (USA) for decades, when addressing someone who you know well enough to call by their first name, except it's considered slightly more formal and respectful. Interesting. I won't consider these people ignorant then. I guess it was me being ignorant of southern culture. I had no idea. I wish the ladies at that doctors office would have told me it was a "southern thing"...then I would have known & understood. They just looked at me like I was some sort of anger junkie...even tho all I said was that it was an incorrect way of referring to someone. Oh well, live and learn. Anyway, thanks for the explanation. I get it now. Anger Junkie... go back to Jersey or wherever the fuck you slithered in from All comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |