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Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season

 
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Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
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The spring construction season is about to begin as homeowners face some of the highest lumber prices ever for this time of year.

March lumber futures in Chicago closed at $1,270 per 1,000 board ft. in Chicago on Friday, up more than 36% since the beginning of the month due to tighter Canadian supplies ahead of the spring building season.


Bloomberg reports the increase in lumber prices comes as Canfor Corporation, the world's third-largest integrated forest products company based in Vancouver, British Columbia, announced a supply cut of 150 million board feet of production due to mountain pine beetle infestation that has devastated trees. Simultaneously, West Fraser Timber Co, the world's largest timber company, reported port congestion and truck and rail car shortage make it challenging to transport lumber to buyers.

"In Western Canada, these transportation challenges are really unprecedented in both scale and duration," West Fraser Chief Executive Officer Ray Ferris told investors on an earnings call last Wednesday.

Over three decades, lumber prices have never been higher for this time of year as the first and third-largest timber companies report supply woes.


Ferris said lumber and plywood shipments fell 20% year-over-year, and pulp shipments plunged 30% in January. He also said shipping "products in a timely manner remains challenged," warning the company might be forced to take "unscheduled downtime" due to the transportation problems.






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Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
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Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
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Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
will there be a spring building season?
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Monopolistic bs .Eliminate small suppliers and set any price you want
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will there be a spring building season?
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It is very obvious to us in the Building Business

that Biden is purposely collapsing the economy.

they are forcing the great reset
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will there be a spring building season?
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Starting to have my doubts...sigh
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Build Back Better with massive tariffs and shutting down domestic petroleum industry, makes sense.
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Yeah this is seriously out of control.
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Build Back Better with massive tariffs and shutting down domestic petroleum industry, makes sense.
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Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Yeah this is seriously out of control.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


why would biden specifically raise tariffs on only lumber

in the middle of massive inflation.


It would only make sense if you were trying to destroy the economy
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will there be a spring building season?
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It is very obvious to us in the Building Business

that Biden is purposely collapsing the economy.

they are forcing the great reset
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it is very obvious that this world is collapsing.
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


In 2009 I built my mother in law a 1500sqft granny cabin. 7/16 osb was $8.80/sheet. 2x4x8 precuts were $1.00. It cost $25k for everything to build. Today it would cost $200k.

But there's no inflation...
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Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Yeah this is seriously out of control.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


why would biden specifically raise tariffs on only lumber

in the middle of massive inflation.


It would only make sense if you were trying to destroy the economy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Oh I agree and add in all the trucking issues, protests, shot mandates, supply chain etc. and you got the perfect storm for disaster.
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So real estate and housing market to the moon??? Moon!!
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will there be a spring building season?
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Yes, but not for you. Only BlackRock will be building
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
Plywood went up $38 dollars a sheet overnight


And Biden just doubled the Lumber Tariffs on Canada 3 days ago
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


In 2009 I built my mother in law a 1500sqft granny cabin. 7/16 osb was $8.80/sheet. 2x4x8 precuts were $1.00. It cost $25k for everything to build. Today it would cost $200k.

But there's no inflation...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78311448


Yeah Jerome Powell says don't worry it is only transitory though...


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Its now almost $100 bucks for a sheet of Plywood

4 years ago I paid $12.99
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Yeah this is seriously out of control.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


why would biden specifically raise tariffs on only lumber

in the middle of massive inflation.


It would only make sense if you were trying to destroy the economy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81905117


Oh I agree and add in all the trucking issues, protests, shot mandates, supply chain etc. and you got the perfect storm for disaster.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


Biden is doing it on purpose, same with the mandates

he knew millions would lose their jobs

He is purposely collapsing the economy
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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I am FREE lumber man with my Husqvarna 36 inch.

Time to build some serious shit in my backyard.

Thank You Mr. Trees all over the property, even the fallen ones will get some lovin and have new life.


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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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LOL no, in the 1980's we planted enough trees to build houses for the whole world

there is a glut on trees
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Yesterday I noticed the cost of 2x4 studs at my local Home Depot--10.99 per stick.

I remember a time when good studs were about a buck (cheaper by the bunk) and lower grade 8' 2x4s were 88 cents each.

Now, that was a while back, and pay has gone up. However, the average pay rate has not increased 8 to 12 times from what it was when those prices were around-not even close.
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Slowly destroying everything Communist style.
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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LOL no, in the 1980's we planted enough trees to build houses for the whole world

there is a glut on trees
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ok do you need air to breath and do you realize how many more people there are?
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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LOL no, in the 1980's we planted enough trees to build houses for the whole world

there is a glut on trees
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ok do you need air to breath and do you realize how many more people there are?
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dude there is no shortage of trees.

They are a renewable resource every lumber company

in America replants as they cut.
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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Not a chance--not in North America anyway.

Many would be surprised but the fact is that there is a huge increase in the amount of forested land compared to 100 years ago. Taking into consideration that commercial tree plantations have drastically increased productivity, there is no strategic shortage of wood.

Now, if one was to take issue with the quality of fast-growth pine, you just might have a legitimate complaint.
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
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Not a chance--not in North America anyway.

Many would be surprised but the fact is that there is a huge increase in the amount of forested land compared to 100 years ago. Taking into consideration that commercial tree plantations have drastically increased productivity, there is no strategic shortage of wood.

Now, if one was to take issue with the quality of fast-growth pine, you just might have a legitimate complaint.
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best look at your world....
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Not a chance--not in North America anyway.

Many would be surprised but the fact is that there is a huge increase in the amount of forested land compared to 100 years ago. Taking into consideration that commercial tree plantations have drastically increased productivity, there is no strategic shortage of wood.

Now, if one was to take issue with the quality of fast-growth pine, you just might have a legitimate complaint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76566547


best look at your world....
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Dan... can you consider that perhaps the world might be running short on lumber now?hf
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Not a chance--not in North America anyway.

Many would be surprised but the fact is that there is a huge increase in the amount of forested land compared to 100 years ago. Taking into consideration that commercial tree plantations have drastically increased productivity, there is no strategic shortage of wood.

Now, if one was to take issue with the quality of fast-growth pine, you just might have a legitimate complaint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76566547


yeah the quality of wood is not as great as it use to be

but with good engineering we make great wood products out

of fast growth pine. Georgia has one of the largest crops

in the US and they plant tens of millions of trees every year
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And some of you fools keep making threads about how real estate is getting ready to collapse??

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Not in this life it isn’t.
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Re: Lumber Prices Have Never Been This High Ahead Of Spring Building Season
There is an empty 3 acre lot next to us, the owner has been planning to build a house there for about 18 months but so far all he has done is to have fill dirt hauled in. He works for a builder so I’m thinking if he can’t do it, who can, except for these giant builders who have stuff in the pipeline already and will finish current projects no matter what…





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