Are Human Clones Still Considered Human?

I'll go first: Yes they are human beings and have a Soul living in that body. But if the clone has been cross-bred as a mutant, than what incarnates will not necessarily always be human as we would see it today. It could be a human that is under developed in Soul quality like those that were depicted in Egypt having animals traits. Those creatures that came from Atlantis, referred to as "human-animals"

My God!!!!

Yes and now it's a reality. A real question of concern for our generation.

It depends on what you consider to be a human.

And your answer could vary depending on religious beliefs or absence thereof.

God declares for each species to reproduce "after its kind". Ecclesiastes tells us humans and animals both have a spirit. The spirit of a dog enters into a dog; the spirit of a human enters into a human. When you get into the realm of transhumanism, crossing human and animal genes, you are in dangerous territory. Take the examples dog and human. If you mix their genes in any way, the result is neither. The spirit of a dog will/can not enter it, because it is not a dog. Likewise, the spirit of a human will/can not enter it because it is not a human. Extrapolate on that.

Wouldn't they share the same soul?

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Or not have one at all. IMO, this is more likely because I believe such a soul would be damned automatically, much like the offspring of the Nephilim during the flood. Also such "hollow" creatures make perfect vessels for demons, which is how such creatures became the gods of Egypt and Atlantis. Again just my opinion, and I'm speaking more of tranhumans than basic clones.

Animals have their Souls on the Astral. Human on the physical and astral. The Spirit is in both but animals have group souls where man has individual Souls.

When you cross-breed a lower species of ape with a human being than death will result. But when certain higher apes are mixed with ones similar like humans the result is a appendaged human being.

This truly sucks because it has happened before and thankfully The Bible records it as the daughters of men giving birth to them. The Initiate Hermes was able, over thousands of years in Egypt, through the use of the healing Temples, (which we now call tombs) to eventually remove all the appendages through many incarnations.

re: Also such "hollow" creatures make perfect vessels for demons


Wow, never thought of that!!!

Yes, in fact it should be based upon Soul development and not religion or what a human being is considered.

Unfortunately, Soul is not only misunderstood but also completely done away with in modern times. So many in our scientific community today will not accept that we people are anything more than mere 'smarter' animals.

So we have more than a mere definition to attend to.

still considered homosapien

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Dr. Severino Antinori, director of a
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interesting to that laws that have passed making the masses feel content what they do not know is that the law does
not define the term ‘human being’ which is used in the definition of human cloning. (a play on words)

You have no proof that human clones exist. Mind control yes, but human being clones, no.

you are sadly mistaken

They existed and they certainly will again, if not already behind closed doors. It's more than possible to find evidence in the past. It also depends on your definition of proof. I can offer evidence but what then makes it a matter of proof for YOUR EYES doesn't always mean it is the same for others to convince them.

A human clone would have a soul, just as twins both have souls. Transgenics are a lot stickier territory. I personally believe it shouldn't be done, for ethical reasons. However, if someone made a transgenic human, or a transgenic animal that experienced consciousness like humans do, then I believe we would have no choice but to regard them as people. Human souls in nonhuman bodies. Just my $0.02 .

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You're are 100% correct. And this would be in a case of pure bred human clone or a non-mutant. The soul would be just as human as any other.

re: A human clone would have a soul, just as twins both have souls

I'm not convinced. I know two identical twins will have their own souls, but the clone that was created by human means, wouldn't necessarily follow the same path.

It depends on many factors but in general, the Soul incarnates into a body that it can live out it's experience. So the even when we find a cloned human the Soul that came into or rather incarnated is still a SOUL.

The real danger and problem which we face is not from cloning but from genetic cross-breeding (mutants) etc. Then other lower Souls can incarnate which presently do not have a physical body to use.

Well, you just blew the American Indians and the aborigines abilities to attach themselves to an animals soul, right out of the water...The spiritual world is more diverse than that..How about demonic possession?... Demons are reptilian...


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The crossbreeding issue, which is also called transgenics, is not as simple as that. Have you ever read Michael Crichton's book Next? There's a transgenic parrot in that book named Gerard, whose DNA is a mixture of human and African grey parrot. Gerard is obviously not human, but is just as obviously a person. If transgenics like that ever do become a reality, then personhood will become more important than humanity. If a creature experiences consciousness like humans do, then it must be considered a person, regardless of its genetic heritage.

Thanks to genetic engineering there are now more soulless humans on this planet than souled humans. That's why society is so fucked up.

I don't think they have a soul but it is hard to prove because so many people on TV and in the government are also souless.