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If an exchange of ICBMs occured

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/16/2008 03:07 AM
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If an exchange of ICBMs occured
How much time would we have ?
And would it be possible to shoot them enroute before they hit the designated targets ?
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02/16/2008 03:11 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
If you refer to a Russian strike on CONUS, it would take approximately 20-30 minutes depending on target selection. If fired from a Submarine, much less.
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02/16/2008 03:14 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
when icbm, i flush it, quick
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02/16/2008 03:14 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
How much time would we have ?
And would it be possible to shoot them enroute before they hit the designated targets ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374605

To my understanding approximately 30-45 minutes. Regarding the last question, that's the purpose of the missile shield. Though the missile shield is only a defence for some missiles and not a swarm of missiles. Furthermore, it is questionable whether the missile shield can hit (the newest) Russian missiles.
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02/16/2008 03:16 AM
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Mr. Predictor has summed it up... DOOOOOOOOOM!

Hopefully we'd get enough warning to post one "and so it begins..." on GLP.
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Mr. Predictor has summed it up... DOOOOOOOOOM!

Hopefully we'd get enough warning to post one "and so it begins..." on GLP.
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Indeed.
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02/16/2008 03:22 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
do you think Mankind will blow ourselves up
or will sanity prevail.
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02/16/2008 03:24 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Remember the doomsday bomb in "Dr. Strangelove"?

It doesn't have to hit any target. It just goes up into the atmosphere and explodes with enough megatonnage coated in enough cobalt to make the earth uninhabitable.
What follows is the scenario in Nevil Shute's "On the Beach".

This is the real Samson option. There is one country that has been threatened with annihilation so regularly, they probably have decided that this is their best defense.

I'm not talking about Israel or any of its neighbours.
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02/16/2008 03:29 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
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Thats so clever,what remarkable symbology
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02/16/2008 03:37 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Any ideas as to what might start such an exchange ?

and do you think this mutually assured destruction policy
is a safe stalemate ?
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02/16/2008 03:58 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
You all simply forget one little thing: It will not happen. And if some idiot (political or military) will press the red button the missiles will start, but will not explode.
This is the true reason why it did not happen.
We humans are not allowed any more to kill this planet. Too many interest in the thing we call earth. Therefore: No Doom.
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02/16/2008 04:10 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
You all simply forget one little thing: It will not happen. And if some idiot (political or military) will press the red button the missiles will start, but will not explode.
This is the true reason why it did not happen.
We humans are not allowed any more to kill this planet. Too many interest in the thing we call earth. Therefore: No Doom.
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I think we have already stuffed the planet
could this be the next method of thinning global population
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02/16/2008 04:20 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
I think we have already stuffed the planet
could this be the next method of thinning global population
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It would be a very drastic meassure to thing the population. An all out nuclear war will create a nuclear winter (dust clouds from the explosions blocking sun light) and radiation that makes many places uninhabitable for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

During the cold war it was calculated that all nuclear bombs could COMPLETELY destroy earth many times.
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02/16/2008 04:25 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
it's going take one crazy sob to do something so drastic
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
it's going take one crazy sob to do something so drastic
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So you're saying that we're fucked?

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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
it's going take one crazy sob to do something so drastic
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And who is seated in positions of power now !
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02/16/2008 04:44 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Mr. Predictor has summed it up... DOOOOOOOOOM!

Hopefully we'd get enough warning to post one "and so it begins..." on GLP.
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02/16/2008 04:56 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
it's going take one crazy sob to do something so drastic

So you're saying that we're fucked?

kim crap blair dick bushfing hitler japanpm jihad2 billgates putin hillary : :pope2: :clinton no:
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Are you askin' which crazy fuck?
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02/16/2008 05:21 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
SLBM's(sub launched ballistic missile) would target much of the easternmost and westernmost targets in the US and some along the Gulf. For this, you would possibly have little to no warning if it was a complete surpise attack. It would happen so fast the news wouldnt be able to report on it before the first MIRV's started exploding. Those closer to the center of the country may have a few minutes warning if that. However, if it happened in the middle of the night, which a surprise attack by the Russians probably would- there would probably be no warning for 99.9% of the population.

MIRV's make sonic booms on reentry and also glow brightly due to their high speed of reentry. You would hear a sonic boom or multiple booms, and see flash(s) of light. If outside, you may also see glowing streaks that resemble the space shuttle coming in or a slow moving meteor just before the MIRVs began exploding. If you are away from targets and can shelter from radioactive fallout if necessary, you can survive. However, even if you do believe you are away from the likely targets- theres always the possibility of an errant missile or MIRV going astray and coming your way, and the Russians arent exactly known for their reliability.

Then theres also the possibility of a massive-scale vehicle-borne nuclear attack inside the US conducted by the Russians or any other nation. Nuclear warheads are smaller than the average Joe realizes and many can even be carried in a vehicle as small as a Toyota car.
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02/16/2008 05:36 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Russian strategic forces currently comprise about 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles, armed with a total of almost 1700 warheads. Ballistic missile submarines account for another 600 warheads. If they could get their strategic bombers in the air, those could, worst case scenario, launch several hundred more nuclear armed cruise missiles.

Even if the ABM systems in place worked 100%, they would only stop a handfull of these missiles. In an all-out counterforce exchange, America, and soon after Russia, would cease to exist as functioning industrialised first world nations. 100 million dead in such a war wouldn't surprise me.
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02/16/2008 05:36 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
SLBM's(sub launched ballistic missile) would target much of the easternmost and westernmost targets in the US and some along the Gulf. For this, you would possibly have little to no warning if it was a complete surpise attack. It would happen so fast the news wouldnt be able to report on it before the first MIRV's started exploding. Those closer to the center of the country may have a few minutes warning if that. However, if it happened in the middle of the night, which a surprise attack by the Russians probably would- there would probably be no warning for 99.9% of the population.

MIRV's make sonic booms on reentry and also glow brightly due to their high speed of reentry. You would hear a sonic boom or multiple booms, and see flash(s) of light. If outside, you may also see glowing streaks that resemble the space shuttle coming in or a slow moving meteor just before the MIRVs began exploding. If you are away from targets and can shelter from radioactive fallout if necessary, you can survive. However, even if you do believe you are away from the likely targets- theres always the possibility of an errant missile or MIRV going astray and coming your way, and the Russians arent exactly known for their reliability.

Nuclear warheads are smaller than the average Joe realizes and many can even be carried in a vehicle as small as a Toyota car.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272356


Thankyou for this AC


Then theres also the possibility of a massive-scale vehicle-borne nuclear attack inside the US conducted by the Russians or any other nation.
what ! are you saying the russians or who ever have vehicle bourne nuc`s already in the country ?
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02/16/2008 06:20 AM
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Re: If an exchange of ICBMs occured
Death is some sweet relief huh!

I am so looking forward to those ICBMS flyin over here like ninas 99 balloons i am standing and waiting

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