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If anyone wants to...please pin this thread again. This is one of the most important threads on here. It contains a HUGE amount of energy as we culminate in bringing together those that hold the most amount of energy in the game still left here. Those that are beyond the control of the Game. It will attract everyone it needs to reach. No doubt about it. No coincidences. Thanks.
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But Venittempus777, my soul is older than earth dirt....ohyeah


And I just noticed, you are a fellow 777....banana2
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We each come from a certain soul group.

Mine is 888...VERY distinct symbols in my life for 888. There are a few other 888s. We are less on the emotional side and more on the logic/truth side...confront and destroy the game directly, while 777 seems to be more the nurture and uplift side. Many groups here all came at once to help end this corruption.
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My numbers i listed a bit back. 411 888 148 those are the direct numbers for my own gematria. Not sure how legit gematria is atm but it has many interesting codes for my numbers. 777 was given to me by a previous teacher along with a name that correlates to protecting and defending 7. Both in physical and legal terms spiritual astral fields.

On a side note, I have asperger's so my emotions are limited in range to specific frequency but not depth.
 Quoting: Venittempus777


Hello fellow aspie! I've done a lot of work on my own mind with regards to understanding and controlling this syndrome and personally, I find it to be more about the oversensitivity to our emotions rather than a lack of them. The blunted of emotions that others see in us is usually just superficial - it's the way aspies grow to deal with the intense pain of having to feel things as deeply as we do. We build a shell around our empathy and dive deeply into our obsessions as a form of escape, parsing things in a detached and stoic manner in order to avoid the crippling feelings that come with being about to so strongly sympathize with those suffering in this psychotic world we live in. In time, that stoicism becomes our strength.

I wouldn't even go so far as to call it a neural wiring disorder, but rather an anomalous alternative configuration in which branching short-distance connections are prioritized over longer-distance ones. It makes our thoughts a bit more obsessive and recursive. The best thing about being ASD is that we're pretty much immune to the lure of the hivemind. We're so bad at fitting in and following the crowd, we simply stop trying and go our own way.
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That's a great thread and the first time I've heard anyone else mention the name "Sorath". When I was just a kid, I heard that name whispered in my mind whenever I was feeling in a fit of rage (most of which were for petty reasons). When I heard it, it sounded more like "S'horoth" with emphasis on the hard "H" sound. Being young, I really didn't have any idea about what was happening, only that I felt like this name was linked to the feelings of destructive wrath I was consumed by. I still remember that name all these years later and now it's starting to make sense thanks to that post of yours.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Hi, Alkahest. Did you get my email?

Sorath is the rage incarnation of Marduk...just like Shiva has his dark emanation and there's Rudra. The pure rage Hitler felt from his "nordic" metahuman allies. If Hitler was actually spiritual he wouldn't have been able to contact them, but using drugs he crossed the threshold enough to be in contact with them. Once he took too many drugs he fell further into the more demonic realms and his "benefactors" became far darker, but less focused.
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Haven't found that email yet, but CosmicG sent me one just fine. Not in my spam folder either. I'll check my filter settings.
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My anaconda don't.
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Salvation will be given through the son of free will.

Has nothing to do with the Anu. the son of free will, the true Christ. Nothing can stop it. Nothing can stop the removal of the parasites. Not even some fake god. He can yell all he wants.

We offered peace. We offered a truce. We offered healing.

They still want war.
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We offered them so much more than a truce. We offered the means to become self-sufficient, no longer parasites but symbiotes coexisting in harmony with the music of God. In place of the illusion of power, they would have had true power, the inexhaustible light of the spirit we carry would have been shared. They have become truly blinded by their arrogance, their addiction to domination and the false sterile order they purvey. They could not even fathom the beauty of their mother's chaos, yet they use it to terrorize worlds, erecting their temples so that the entire cosmos might stand as a monument to themselves, a self-aggrandizing lie fueled by the blood of those who would show them the truth.

They are truly insane, and I still shed tears for them, no matter how much pain they've inflicted. They are lost.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


It's funny, but so many of your posts feel almost like they would be the same stuff I'd say...almost word for word. Either we really are on the same frequency, or you read my mind haha.
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Heh, I can (and have) said the same thing about your content. Coupled with the journal entry I posted a couple pages ago with the words in many languages that strongly relate to you, I believe it's very likely that we were fated to meet.

I have a couple years worth of content in that diary ranging from things I've experienced in the astral plane to some philosophical musings in my free time. I'll try to share some of it here.
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That's a great thread and the first time I've heard anyone else mention the name "Sorath". When I was just a kid, I heard that name whispered in my mind whenever I was feeling in a fit of rage (most of which were for petty reasons). When I heard it, it sounded more like "S'horoth" with emphasis on the hard "H" sound. Being young, I really didn't have any idea about what was happening, only that I felt like this name was linked to the feelings of destructive wrath I was consumed by. I still remember that name all these years later and now it's starting to make sense thanks to that post of yours.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Hi, Alkahest. Did you get my email?

Sorath is the rage incarnation of Marduk...just like Shiva has his dark emanation and there's Rudra. The pure rage Hitler felt from his "nordic" metahuman allies. If Hitler was actually spiritual he wouldn't have been able to contact them, but using drugs he crossed the threshold enough to be in contact with them. Once he took too many drugs he fell further into the more demonic realms and his "benefactors" became far darker, but less focused.
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Haven't found that email yet, but CosmicG sent me one just fine. Not in my spam folder either. I'll check my filter settings.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Mine is from hotmail. I will try sending one more to test it then.
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"Then was my Soul my only All to me,
A living endless Eye,
Scarce bounded with the Sky
Whose Power, and Act, and Essence was to see:
I was an inward Sphere of Light,
Or an interminable Orb of Sight,
Exceeding that which makes the Days . . . being Simple, like the Deity,
In its own Centre is a Sphere,
Not limited but everywhere.

It acts not from a Centre to
Its Object, as remote;
But present is, where it doth go
To view the Being it doth note …
A strange extended Orb of Joy
Proceeding from within,
Which did on ev’ry side display
Its force; and being nigh of Kin
To God, did ev’ry way
Dilate its Self ev’n instantaneously,
Yet an Indivisible Centre stay,
In it surrounding all Eternity.
‘Twas not a Sphere;
Yet did appear
One infinite: ‘Twas somewhat everywhere."
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A musing from my diary on the state of humankind:

In reflecting on everything we've just witnessed since the end of 2019, I'm coming to terms with a strange epiphany. Rather than obeying rational empirical laws of nature and society, the reality we inhabit actually operates on the same principles as a work of narrative fiction - in our case it seems, a bad 1980's sitcom. Going forward with that hypothesis seems not only to the ability to predict world events with a much greater accuracy, but has most notably increased my (perceived) sense of humor and helped me let go of the ever-inflating societal stressors our "new normal" seems so keen on making status quo.

Right now, human civilization looks it's being directed by an author suffering from writers block but obsessed with keeping his franchise alive at any cost. Out of ideas, they have now invited their publisher's marketing department to "finish the story for them, while keeping themselves open for an infinite number of sequels and spin-offs. This is like hiring Michael Bay to edit and direct "Black Swan"... the metaphor made all the more appropriate in that the greatest villain of the story is supposed to be the protagonist's own repressed dark nature and psychotic tendencies. If we use the story  "Black Swan" as a model narrative for our real world (I think it is) - would you trust ANY of our world leaders to know how to write and direct it? Can a nation state even hope to win a war against  the force of our collective personal darkness and the unconscious? Psy-ops might be the new face of 21st century warfare, but it's already done more to destabilize the gestalt mind than it has provided us stability or hope - not even for our own armed forces and police departments!

I've long accepted that conflict of some sort is in our human nature, and probably even an expression of something much bigger than us. But here's the thing that so many dead ancient Greek guys kept trying to tell everyone - you can trap our tendency for conflict inside social games of COOPERATION! This was so fundamentally obvious to our Copper-Age ancestors that their cultures naturally became organized this way. Individuals were kept accountable to both their reputations and their contributions while deeply connected community peer groups applied the needed reinforcement of agreed human virtues on equal levels as a citizen and as a friend.

So here are some principles I've observed in psychological stable communities sampled from across our recorded history and (I think) are not values limited by/to any single culture. We must have a place of almost sacred respect for objectivity and particularly, impartiality. We must not "shoot the referee", but look to empower those who do not feel called to take sides in a given conflict. We can still have passion, wildly unpopular opinions, and debates - we need them as both drivers of a cultural narrative and a way to release emotional tension while being recognized and heard out by peers. But we must have our mediators, judges, scribes, journalists and flesh and blood community storytellers to be our memory indexes - lest we lose all perspective and cohesion among of all our more highly individualistic and opinionated minds. We represent chains or factions of abstract philosophical and mathematical principles joined by a few elementary keys: primary "seed" ideas that give rise to ALL of experiential existence from their concomitant interpenetration and emerging phenomenological fields. They create both the mystic and the mundane in the same sacred way. Both paths are equally real and one. And the goal is BALANCE. Spiritual delusion is JUST as unhealthy as pure materialism. We are simply awake in a world exploring what it's like to put inflexible constraints on our self-expression as well as adopting a very matter-centric philosophy (but only at this cultural moment on Earth).

Given the above to be our rough framework for a model harmonized culture, I can see several big societal and personal goals I think fit within a shared perspective to promote our psycho-spiritual wellbeing and evolution:

1. Discover who and what your true essence of self-hood is really about. Identity with the proper "I" for interfacing smoothly in this reality and remember how to let go when the idea of "you" is no longer a needed tool to achieve your TRUE GOAL. At that moment, individualism/collectivism will cease to be a dichotomy, but you must still choose whether or not to let go. For most minds on Earth, what we want and what we do are wildly different things and most violence is rooted not in oppression, but in the unacknowledged, habitual traumas we keep visiting upon ourselves. The oppressors have only ever had to learn one trick - to make us dig the "bullets" out of our deepest wounds and fire them into our neighbors. 

2. Delineate the irreducible key elements of mind that create the experiential universe(s). Work with others to test, refine, and most importantly, strive to create new existences with these elements. Try to teach as often as you learn, or at least write things down. Some primordial elements WILL be painful to acknowledge or understand. Rather than reject or vilify these elements, reflect deeply on why their presence in reality makes you feel so strongly way. These concepts can be the most important, as they indicated where you are aligning yourself on the spectrum of metaphysical abstracts. What do you feel is your current persona's second and third highest directive apart from reunion with your source?

3. Try to drive your universe's collective self-understanding in a upwards direction. Push only as far as your circumstances will allow you to reach, and focus most of your energy on goal #1. The closer you get to genuine Self-Gnosis, the farther you'll usually be able to reach with your influence, at greater magnitude, and with less (unnecessary) grief. Stay in balance to help others get balanced.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
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A quote I saw. Living with passion is key.

When we are true to ourselves, we harness the power that lies dormant in the unauthentic being: the power to achieve any dream, to live our highest purpose. When we are not true to ourselves, we hide the power and dreams are inaccessible.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
 Quoting: The Alkahest

I think this is an excellent starting point that has much merit and value. And would do a lot to foster growth and trust in the occult studies. So many people are becoming aware of their true gifts and nature, but without the proper guidance we are left to our own designs to find a way. Which isn't necessarily a had thing, we all need to forge our own path, but many pitfalls and setbacks can be avoided with the proper guidance system available to all who feel called. Also the idea of a hierarchy I think should be reassessed heavily. And information should be passed along linearly based on the students abilities. Not what rank has been achieved.

And also there needs to be a way to test for the different levels of understanding, from eikasia to nous. To be able to help the students instead of simply telling them to sink it swim. Some people have all the ability and gifts but sometimes need help in understanding. And that shouldn't be neglected or simply left to their own to figure out.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
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I think this is an excellent starting point that has much merit and value. And would do a lot to foster growth and trust in the occult studies. So many people are becoming aware of their true gifts and nature, but without the proper guidance we are left to our own designs to find a way. Which isn't necessarily a had thing, we all need to forge our own path, but many pitfalls and setbacks can be avoided with the proper guidance system available to all who feel called. Also the idea of a hierarchy I think should be reassessed heavily. And information should be passed along linearly based on the students abilities. Not what rank has been achieved.

And also there needs to be a way to test for the different levels of understanding, from eikasia to nous. To be able to help the students instead of simply telling them to sink it swim. Some people have all the ability and gifts but sometimes need help in understanding. And that shouldn't be neglected or simply left to their own to figure out.
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Absolutely. The idea of hierarchies we currently entertain is really just a transplant from the culture of the reptilians /draco designed to encourage abuse of power and tyranny and often leads to people being promoted on the basis of pure loyalty to the current masters (as intended). We need to go back to a meritocratic model.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
 Quoting: The Alkahest

I think this is an excellent starting point that has much merit and value. And would do a lot to foster growth and trust in the occult studies. So many people are becoming aware of their true gifts and nature, but without the proper guidance we are left to our own designs to find a way. Which isn't necessarily a had thing, we all need to forge our own path, but many pitfalls and setbacks can be avoided with the proper guidance system available to all who feel called. Also the idea of a hierarchy I think should be reassessed heavily. And information should be passed along linearly based on the students abilities. Not what rank has been achieved.

And also there needs to be a way to test for the different levels of understanding, from eikasia to nous. To be able to help the students instead of simply telling them to sink it swim. Some people have all the ability and gifts but sometimes need help in understanding. And that shouldn't be neglected or simply left to their own to figure out.
 Quoting: Venittempus777


Absolutely. The idea of hierarchies we currently entertain is really just a transplant from the culture of the reptilians /draco designed to encourage abuse of power and tyranny and often leads to people being promoted on the basis of pure loyalty to the current masters (as intended). We need to go back to a meritocratic model.
 Quoting: The Alkahest

The longer I'm on this thread the more I realize I know absolutely nothing and have still a lifetime of learning to get to the beginning...also....dracos and reptilians...I'm annoyed immensely by.

Interesting experience I had when I was around 10ish, was praying the rosary in front of a painting of the virgin mary, went into trance state and saw her as a lizard woman....which always struck me as odd...that happened with almost every religious effigy from the RCC that I would come across...and I still dont understand why because I know that yeshua and mary weren't reptilian or draco...and I'm hoping I dont have lineage to those bloodlines either. Would be very sad if I did.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
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I think this is an excellent starting point that has much merit and value. And would do a lot to foster growth and trust in the occult studies. So many people are becoming aware of their true gifts and nature, but without the proper guidance we are left to our own designs to find a way. Which isn't necessarily a had thing, we all need to forge our own path, but many pitfalls and setbacks can be avoided with the proper guidance system available to all who feel called. Also the idea of a hierarchy I think should be reassessed heavily. And information should be passed along linearly based on the students abilities. Not what rank has been achieved.

And also there needs to be a way to test for the different levels of understanding, from eikasia to nous. To be able to help the students instead of simply telling them to sink it swim. Some people have all the ability and gifts but sometimes need help in understanding. And that shouldn't be neglected or simply left to their own to figure out.
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Absolutely. The idea of hierarchies we currently entertain is really just a transplant from the culture of the reptilians /draco designed to encourage abuse of power and tyranny and often leads to people being promoted on the basis of pure loyalty to the current masters (as intended). We need to go back to a meritocratic model.
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The longer I'm on this thread the more I realize I know absolutely nothing and have still a lifetime of learning to get to the beginning...also....dracos and reptilians...I'm annoyed immensely by.

Interesting experience I had when I was around 10ish, was praying the rosary in front of a painting of the virgin mary, went into trance state and saw her as a lizard woman....which always struck me as odd...that happened with almost every religious effigy from the RCC that I would come across...and I still dont understand why because I know that yeshua and mary weren't reptilian or draco...and I'm hoping I dont have lineage to those bloodlines either. Would be very sad if I did.
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We all have our own unique strengths to help us through being here. Learning most of this isn't necessary either. Just go with what you feel within you is the truth.
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From my diary, on the subject of creating accountable mystery/magick guilds:

Can we trust in the model of a secret priesthood/librarians anymore? While I initially agreed with the principle of "tempered gradual initiation" - proving oneself competent and responsible enough to be trusted with the esoteric secrets of the world, history has made it quite clear that this paradigm will eventually fall victim to cunning psychopaths that can slip past the radar. As we see today, the end goal of these self-obsessive "bad actors" usually culminates in an indomitable array of elitist oligarchs in possession of occult knowledge that they take for granted as their birthright. This is a driver of tyranny, not a benign global unity.

If we cannot trust any man or woman to perfectly keep these serpents out of the garden, how then do we confront this? Sharing this dangerous and powerful knowledge in the open is still not a favorable alternative, as this would only serve to encourage the same morally-bereft individuals to pursue autodidactic mastery over such mysteries.

Ideas: publicly-accountable mystery guilds? Let the entire sovereign state and incorporated territories know WHAT they are capable of, why it must be guarded, and enshrine their right to secrecy with regard to the HOW. Personal + institutional guild privacy laws at highest judicial level of nation; fine-tune by state if prudent. NO SINGLE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE to be given jurisdiction over the guilds - would reintroduce opportunities for bribery, corruption. Ensure oversight redundancies. Operation might be similar to BAR association, but voters can oust scribes/mages that they perceive to be operating against their city/state's best interests. Limits to the government-paid salaries of guild fathers and masters, encouraging acquisition of independent wealth before running - a corruption safeguard. Alternatively, institute vows of poverty, similar to the Catholic church and its priests. Remove the temptation for the acquisition of material wealth by providing them a guaranteed living stipend. Lobbyists absolutely forbidden from trying to sway the guild leadership. Loyalty is ONLY to mankind - a fair price for the power and knowledge they will wield over the elements.
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I think this is an excellent starting point that has much merit and value. And would do a lot to foster growth and trust in the occult studies. So many people are becoming aware of their true gifts and nature, but without the proper guidance we are left to our own designs to find a way. Which isn't necessarily a had thing, we all need to forge our own path, but many pitfalls and setbacks can be avoided with the proper guidance system available to all who feel called. Also the idea of a hierarchy I think should be reassessed heavily. And information should be passed along linearly based on the students abilities. Not what rank has been achieved.

And also there needs to be a way to test for the different levels of understanding, from eikasia to nous. To be able to help the students instead of simply telling them to sink it swim. Some people have all the ability and gifts but sometimes need help in understanding. And that shouldn't be neglected or simply left to their own to figure out.
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Absolutely. The idea of hierarchies we currently entertain is really just a transplant from the culture of the reptilians /draco designed to encourage abuse of power and tyranny and often leads to people being promoted on the basis of pure loyalty to the current masters (as intended). We need to go back to a meritocratic model.
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The longer I'm on this thread the more I realize I know absolutely nothing and have still a lifetime of learning to get to the beginning...also....dracos and reptilians...I'm annoyed immensely by.

Interesting experience I had when I was around 10ish, was praying the rosary in front of a painting of the virgin mary, went into trance state and saw her as a lizard woman....which always struck me as odd...that happened with almost every religious effigy from the RCC that I would come across...and I still dont understand why because I know that yeshua and mary weren't reptilian or draco...and I'm hoping I dont have lineage to those bloodlines either. Would be very sad if I did.
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There's some debate about who the real Christ actually was, and substantial evidence to suggest that the Romans replaced him with another historical figure who was of a Roman aristocratic lineage. Some scholars believe that Yeshua was the product of a rape at the hands of a high ranking centurion and that John the Baptist was the real Christ. History has been edited to such a severe extent that it's likely we will never know the truth. The only thing I can say for certain is that the spirit of the Christ is real and that the name of the man that spirit inhabited is unimportant.
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No wonder.
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It's still a matter of contention as which star is tethered to our sun. Some say Vega, others say it's the stars of Orion's belt, Arcturus, or even Sirius. Which star do you consider to be our local central sun?

From my own experience and various akashic downloads, I think that the coming upheaval and earth changes are more tied to the arrival of the so-called "megacomet" that is slated to arrive in our solar system in 2028, ultimately reaching close proximity to Saturn before heading back out to the oort cloud. I've perceived this comet as carrying an energy that is critical for earth to assimilate and also has a role in healing the fallen aspects of Saturn. I had a dream that my "true" celestial body was somehow chained to that comet and that its arrival would be crucial in allowing me to reclaim that part of myself.
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It's still a matter of contention as which star is tethered to our sun. Some say Vega, others say it's the stars of Orion's belt, Arcturus, or even Sirius. Which star do you consider to be our local central sun?

From my own experience and various akashic downloads, I think that the coming upheaval and earth changes are more tied to the arrival of the so-called "megacomet" that is slated to arrive in our solar system in 2028, ultimately reaching close proximity to Saturn before heading back out to the oort cloud. I've perceived this comet as carrying an energy that is critical for earth to assimilate and also has a role in healing the fallen aspects of Saturn. I had a dream that my "true" celestial body was somehow chained to that comet and that its arrival would be crucial in allowing me to reclaim that part of myself.
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Sirius. With the upheaval came the tilt and the flip that's when humanity lost its connection to the akashic record and memories. I watched and read some of Andrew Bartzis galactic historian stuff. It seems interesting.

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Given the intellect and ability that people on this thread have demonstrated, I'm curious as to whether anyone has attempted or would like to attempt any sort of participatory activity, utilizing our gifts together. This could range from a simple group meditation at a synchronized time to something more advanced, such influencing the weather or moving humanity into a more positive state of mind. Let me know if you think this idea has any merit.
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Given the intellect and ability that people on this thread have demonstrated, I'm curious as to whether anyone has attempted or would like to attempt any sort of participatory activity, utilizing our gifts together. This could range from a simple group meditation at a synchronized time to something more advanced, such influencing the weather or moving humanity into a more positive state of mind. Let me know if you think this idea has any merit.
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The idea is sound. Pulling it off would be much harder. Even trying to co-ordinate with CosmicG for her healing didn't pan out as we all have lives we live and things come up that can derail it. Cobra of the Portal 2012 site has put together mass meditation to try to put humanity on a positive timeline...I think like 100, 000 people participated in it, but none of us did. I'd think maybe, of those 100k people, 90% would be Organic Portals and won't effect much of anything. They're infiltrating every level of awakening to keep the game going, but they do not actually have the capability to reach any depth of spiritual development. A dozen fully awakened humans can do far more...if it can be pulled off. Sadly, this year has been quite bad for me and I haven't even had a chance to do one day of meditation yet, let alone anything deeper haha. Any suggestions? What is your time zone btw? Mine is the same as Toronto.
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Given the intellect and ability that people on this thread have demonstrated, I'm curious as to whether anyone has attempted or would like to attempt any sort of participatory activity, utilizing our gifts together. This could range from a simple group meditation at a synchronized time to something more advanced, such influencing the weather or moving humanity into a more positive state of mind. Let me know if you think this idea has any merit.
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The idea is sound. Pulling it off would be much harder. Even trying to co-ordinate with CosmicG for her healing didn't pan out as we all have lives we live and things come up that can derail it. Cobra of the Portal 2012 site has put together mass meditation to try to put humanity on a positive timeline...I think like 100, 000 people participated in it, but none of us did. I'd think maybe, of those 100k people, 90% would be Organic Portals and won't effect much of anything. They're infiltrating every level of awakening to keep the game going, but they do not actually have the capability to reach any depth of spiritual development. A dozen fully awakened humans can do far more...if it can be pulled off. Sadly, this year has been quite bad for me and I haven't even had a chance to do one day of meditation yet, let alone anything deeper haha. Any suggestions? What is your time zone btw? Mine is the same as Toronto.
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Where there's a will there is a way. Time is irrelevant, and illusory, and we all know we can step outside of it when projecting. Aside from that, presence meditations do wonders as well does prayer. I'm in for raising the vibe and anchoring in christ conaciousness.
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And I've been exposing the why of it for years on here and other places and in person. Many here have but it gets drowned out by Trump and anti-trump tirades rather than people looking at the underlying root cause. We all have a piece of the puzzle. You mentioned you were having a problem and were trying to find an answer. I am open to any genuine soul talking about what's affecting them ... especially in these crazy days. As you can see...many came here because they feel comfort knowing others are in the same boat.
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Have spoken with Gypsy quite a bit over the years, and Mila and I strongly support each other in these matters. She and I are spiritually connected to the point that we can pull the other in when under attack. So, whatever the nasty may be, finds himself battling 2 gifteds instead of the just 1 that was targeted.
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We've all been attacked.... especially this year. Mine seems to be general....you said there was a specific being/thing for your own situation?
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Been attacked by a lot of garden variety oogi-boogies that I take out with ease. The worst, that landed me in the ER, was a higher level thing. Pretty much got sucker punched into the heart chakra from behind. I am an energy gifted, and this was a strong energy attack.

It woke me up with extreme pain between the shoulders, in the ER BP and heart rate fluctuating wildly, in and out of consciousness. Lots of tests showed absolutely nothing wrong with me, other than the obvious monitors going crazy. They released me after about 7 hours, and I was back to complete normal by noon the next day. Intuition/Knowing tells me this was a senior minion of a high level demon whose name I will not say, or write, but it starts with a B.
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Nano + computer + satellite

They've killed many by heart attack, stroke, etc this way.
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Everything I was talking about so far is coming true. The controllers have lost control of their farm and are needing to regain control or lose their whole system. As I said, they reek of desperation. We are still in the storm...and the biggest part of it is yet to come, but make it through and you will be alright. Unfortunately, for most, it will be a painful experience because they only imagine a physical level existence so their fear will overwhelm them. Pull back your energy from the game and watch it fall apart. There is NO saving this matrix frequency trap. The harvest/ing of energy won't be enough by them to restart the simulation because the majority are, for all intents and purposes, Organic Portals...even if they seem real to us...their suffering is only an illusion to keep the game seeming more realistic than it truly is.

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The game was never going to last till 2030...that was only an illusion meant to give those awakening more time, or so they thought, to be lazy. As I've kept saying from the beginning, do your spiritual work NOW. Not later, NOW. For years I've been trying to get people to focus on what's most important. The shells are transient...the soul is an envelope...the spirit is immortal.
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Sex Island vacation offers guests ‘unlimited sex’ with 100 prostitutes

A four-day orgy extravaganza that promises kinky customers “unlimited sex without a condom” is set to get underway this week.

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They're not draining the energy off us by war alone so they're pushing sex as another venue. I've noticed that it's been affecting me as well, but I know better.
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A four-day orgy extravaganza that promises kinky customers “unlimited sex without a condom” is set to get underway this week.

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They're not draining the energy off us by war alone so they're pushing sex as another venue. I've noticed that it's been affecting me as well, but I know better.
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Indeed. The harvest of sexual energy, particularly from the males, is a driving force in the occult world that fuels many of their magicks. It's remarkable how out in the open this is becoming, either out of desperation or because the controllers believe themselves to have already won. The sexual energy is like a drug to them and they get extremely aggressive when any individual cuts them off. I'm a lifelong voluntary celibate with zero libido and that seems to really piss them off. They've been sending "collectors" while I'm in the astral to try and extract that energy from me unwillingly. Let's just say I know how it feels to be raped and it greatly increases my empathy for the victims of such crimes in the physical world. I did a write-up of one such instance in an earlier thread of mine.
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^ Aren't they equally addicted to feminine energy?

But yes, I noticed a lot of them getting tetchy. It's a good sign. Shows they're short on loosh.

I keep reminding myself to willfully cut off my energy from them. I literally say "cut the feed" a few times a day. If bullying you doesn't work, they start to wheedle you.

Apparently its very hard for them to maintain shape in this reality once their stores of energy fall below a certain level. Imagine lots of "End of They Live" moments happening slowly across the planet, over the space of a few years.
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