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Who do we owe 30 Trillion to, and what if we told them screw off, we're not paying it?

 
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The entire money supply of the USA and every country on Earth is comprised of debt owed to someone else.

Been like this for all of recorded history all over the planet.

That is why money circulates because you all are in debt to everyone.

If all the debts were paid there would be no money in circulation.
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Rhymes with ew
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Think about it. If free energy is possible and I think it is; we wouldn’t need government or corporations so much. Many people wouldn’t even need jobs. Grow your own food, go wherever you want, make what you want, invent stuff, start a business with no bullshit. And there would be less wars and less tyranny because these people are self sufficient

The oil thing is the biggest fucking racket of control and power ever unleashed on humanity
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Everyone is constantly trying to take more than they give from everyone.

Those that succeed more than they fail become richer while those that fail more than they succeed become poorer.

The economics taught is incomplete.

You all are taught what slaves and servants are taught.

The masters are taught what slaves and servants are not.
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US dollar value would plummet. Everything you buy would double or triple overnight, or just plain not be available as countries refused to export to us.

Bond market would implode and banks would close.

Pensions default.

Endless list of things go bad.

You really don’t want this.
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Nothing you said would effect me. I do want this. More so now that you've listed everything
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03/26/2022 11:29 PM
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you owe it to nations who bought into your currency

they where sold a lemon

you are racketeering... you are a criminal
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Wow lots of noses mad in this thread
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The entire money supply of the USA and every country on Earth is comprised of debt owed to someone else.

Been like this for all of recorded history all over the planet.

That is why money circulates because you all are in debt to everyone.

If all the debts were paid there would be no money in circulation.
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True now with fiat money but not money tied to gold. They were gold certificates to retrieve your gold from safekeeping on demand. And a certain group of people realized not everybody would come get their money at once so they could lend that other people and keep a gigantic cut by just sitting on their asses doing nothing
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Force Majeure
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That isn't going to work like the think-tanks 20 years ago thought it would.

There's a new sheriff in town.
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03/26/2022 11:32 PM
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I know to many of you very smart people this may sound very stupid, I apologize. I just don't have any idea.

I do know someone has been taking advantage of the American people for a very long time.

So what would happen if we told these people...

"We are cancelling our debt to you today. You have made enough money off of us. We owe you nothing".

 Quoting: rod777


No one would ever lend to us again. Ever.

Since about 85-90% of the US Federal Budget is social welfare (Social security, Medicare, Food Stamps, Obama Phones, Section 8 housing) ALL of that would have to stop immediately because the tax money coming in would not pay for it.

As soon as all that stopped, the savages will riot, burn down the cities, then head out into the suburbs.

THAT is what would happen if we told the people we owe money to "screw off."
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Sounds good to me
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Force Majeure
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That isn't going to work like the think-tanks 20 years ago thought it would.

There's a new sheriff in town.
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You wont do shit
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03/26/2022 11:35 PM

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Force Majeure
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That isn't going to work like the think-tanks 20 years ago thought it would.

There's a new sheriff in town.
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You wont do shit
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Your paradigm is done.

In your face.

In real time.

sun
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03/26/2022 11:35 PM
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Most of the US debt is thanks to boomers borrowing against the future of millennials and generation Z.
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Think about it. If free energy is possible and I think it is; we wouldn’t need government or corporations so much. Many people wouldn’t even need jobs. Grow your own food, go wherever you want, make what you want, invent stuff, start a business with no bullshit. And there would be less wars and less tyranny because these people are self sufficient

The oil thing is the biggest fucking racket of control and power ever unleashed on humanity
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.--Frederic Bastiat, The Law

All money is decreed money...fiat...

The top says this is money...Or else...period end of story....

You Farmer are on the Land owned by the LORD of the land and will pay rent to the LORD of 1 Gold coin a year...

Where do I get this GOLD coin?

You can take one short ton of grain to the grainery of the LORD and there you will be given a GOLD coin for it and then you can give the gold coin to the servant of the LORD...

What if I refuse?

Then the LORD will drive you from the Land that the LORD is the LORD of...

There you go an abundant supply of free energy to power your wildest hopes and dreams...

22 And the Lord said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,

23 The Lord sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.

24 And He drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life
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Russia has one world digital currency ready and waiting and yes they said that
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03/26/2022 11:39 PM

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5*
These are one of MANY discussions we should have on GLP..
You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

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03/26/2022 11:41 PM
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In a word...WAR!

In 2 words...BIG WAR!
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Isn't where we are now?.. US is broke and it's seizing Russian assets... , tomorrow it will be the Chinese assets as well.. then others... At some time, the world world will unite to crush and destroy US forever... I think it is already started as we speak...
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What would they do to us, any worse than now?
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The international banksters have the ability to inflict a LOT of pain.

They create the money out of thin air, then "loan" it to the "government", at interest.

The most significant things that occurred in the 20th century was in 1913.

The Fed and the IRS. The beginning of the end.
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03/26/2022 11:50 PM
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Currently China owns a lot of the debt when the dollar was decided to be the reserve currency other countries bought our debt in the dollar so they could trade with
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1869762


Japan owes more US debt then China.

Most US debt is owed to the US. Alot is owed to the Social Security Trust.
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03/26/2022 11:51 PM
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Its sad humanity cant come together money wouldnt be needed
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03/27/2022 12:12 AM
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The people of the USA only made a down payment on the goods and services they thought they once bought outright.

Eventually people of the world will ask for something in return for the dollar they are holding.

At that point USA will find out just who owns all the public land and property belonging to the Government. They may take a piece of paper called a map, showing a slice of USA wild land, building river or lake, then trade it back for something tangible. Who knows, they may even give a way the whole plantation as a going concern to Jacob Rothschild (oh wait...)

If no one accepts the dollar because of very obvious default, the USA becomes Cuba 2.0, back to ingenuity and scrap metal trading of worthless e-waste technology like cars and other complex electronic junk.

Cuba had the advantage of old stuff that can be repaired through mix and match, bailing string and wire etc.

The USA need to discover a magic new form of free energy they can lease to the world like mini nuclear fusion reactors with special tamper-proof screws that automatically renders the device an inert blob of iron before dismantlement.

Perhaps a ruse C02 shell game...

Alternately they could find a mRNA carbon nano-tube Vaxx compound that cures an as-yet undiscovered rogue Neanderthal crippling terminator gene lurking in human DNA rapidly turning youngsters into zombie, self harming non binary freaks who eventually become homicidal.

Hmmmm!

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03/27/2022 12:13 AM

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I know to many of you very smart people this may sound very stupid, I apologize. I just don't have any idea.

I do know someone has been taking advantage of the American people for a very long time.

So what would happen if we told these people...

"We are cancelling our debt to you today. You have made enough money off of us. We owe you nothing".

 Quoting: rod777


It’s not a stupid question especially since when they talk about the debt, there’s usually something that says

“Debt per Citizen”

If assholes are going to claim I owe hundreds of thousands of dollars I certainly never spent, approved or benefited from, I think we reserve the right to ask Who and then tell them to go fuck themselves, and take up the debt with the swamp.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

The F in Communism stands for Food.

"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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I know to many of you very smart people this may sound very stupid, I apologize. I just don't have any idea.

I do know someone has been taking advantage of the American people for a very long time.

So what would happen if we told these people...

"We are cancelling our debt to you today. You have made enough money off of us. We owe you nothing".

 Quoting: rod777


I believe this is one reason they want to start a digital currency and the great reset

All debt individuals, countries would be wiped clean

All countries would adopt this digital currency
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I know to many of you very smart people this may sound very stupid, I apologize. I just don't have any idea.

I do know someone has been taking advantage of the American people for a very long time.

So what would happen if we told these people...

"We are cancelling our debt to you today. You have made enough money off of us. We owe you nothing".

 Quoting: rod777


if you lose reserve currency status, your dollar becomes worth the 30 trillion of debt your government has racked up to it because it is monopoly money not backed by any real substance. So it really doesn't matter if you pay your debts or not, once that thirty trillion catches up to you, you are going to know what it is like to pay $100 for a cheeseburger. Look up what happens when other countries, such as zimbabwe pillage the fuck out of their currency. Why do you think these guys trade in "millions" of their currency's denomination? That's what you guys will be doing, passing around trillion dollar notes for something that is {currently} worth $5 like they do in Bali. Except even Bali haven't managed to make it to the trillions yet, so congratulations to you guys for being the first I suppose.
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Who creates currency?

They create fake money to buy real things.
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Just "solved" my own debt problems: Thread: Great News. I've Found Out How to Eliminate the Pain of Default on All my Credit Cards & Loans
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89 Trillion
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They say that China "owns much of our debt" but what does that really mean when there is NOTHING FEDERAL ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE?!? And who cares if we don't pay back the money to The Fed? What the hell are they gonna do about it?!?
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send Seal Team 6 to their next AGM and all your worries are over, right?
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I know to many of you very smart people this may sound very stupid, I apologize. I just don't have any idea.

I do know someone has been taking advantage of the American people for a very long time.

So what would happen if we told these people...

"We are cancelling our debt to you today. You have made enough money off of us. We owe you nothing".

 Quoting: rod777


I believe this is one reason they want to start a digital currency and the great reset

All debt individuals, countries would be wiped clean

All countries would adopt this digital currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82404705


The question will become what they will want from people to wipe debts clean and be welcomed into the new world order.

The price will be very high.

Never forget “You will own nothing, and be happy about it” according to Klaus Swabb
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

The F in Communism stands for Food.

"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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Imagine loaning a pistol to someone if they don't have a rifle. Don't be an idiot. Actually you can, just calm down, work, and be normal.
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