is anyone else just not buying oil/gas? plan B

I learned pretty quickly that you can't just turn your furnace all the way down to 55 thinking it would never get down that low, LOL. The damn thing was on this morning. I had to turn it all the way OFF.

It really does show you always need a plan B for everything;. Otherwise they have you over an oil barrel.

The conspiracy mind in me wonders if this is what they WANT... ie for us useless eaters to stop using up resources?

But anywho, I don't care.

I actually feel kind of bad for the local oil company if nobody buys their oil. They are nice people.

But supply-and-demand is a thing.

If you reduce demand... prices fall, right?

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 08:43 AM

I love your attitude OP! But there are over 6,000 items that are derived from petroleum, things we use every day without a second thought.

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It will take a lot of hardship to completely detach from oil.

They've really got us over a barrel, so to speak.

I put in a wood stove OP, I know it's not practical for everyone. I cut my own wood so it works out for us.

summertime is a different story around here.

I would not have clue one what this meant if not for having moved and lived back east at one time.

We don't have oil furnaces out west.

I didn't know that! I wonder what replaces oil for heat out west? Propane tanks?

Have natural gas and propane have all risen in price too?

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 09:33 AM

I wonder a bit if people are going to charge more for firewood because -voila- they use gas to cut it up?

The propane tank setting outside my house is the reason for the wood stove. It get's stupid expensive to keep warm.
I'm even living in a brand new house I built that is very efficient.

I like your George Carlin quote, Stella Blue! ("I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.”
– George Carlin). I suppose that the government now speaks through the media as well. And the doctors... And even the churches sometimes now.

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 09:35 AM

Yes, it's gone up here about 20 bucks per rick this year. If I didn't cut it myself it would not be worth it. I work from home so I can feed my fire all day and the heater stays off.

I spend about 2-3 hours every month on the wood pile to keep it stocked.

I love my wood stove, even when oil is cheaper. It's just so very comfortable to be near.

My wood stove won't stop pipes from freezing however... Ask how I know! But we can do just the wood stove in the spring. In February we'd have to shut down some of our water pipes. It's doable but would need planning.

Electricity is pretty cheap compared to everything else. I didn't use any propane for heating this winter. My electric bills were all outrageous, but I think I saved money in the long run.

Yeah but let's not let the pipes freeze in the meantime.

28 degrees outside this am and 61 inside.

Lol no..

Some Texas Tycoon has put a pistol to his head three times by 8 this morning..

They sold you the stratigec oil reserve at pump prices..

Blamed Russia..

Oil was 40 per barrel..

No the wind farm got shredded this go round..

Not frozen..

I don't even know what oil is going for by the barrel, but found this:

"Oil prices dipped by more than 5% early on Tuesday, with the U.S. benchmark WTI slumping to just below $100 a barrel after signs emerged that the resumption of the Russia-Ukraine peace talks after two weeks may have been constructive."
-oilprice.com

I like your post but I want to be sure I'm taking your meaning right. Do you mean they kept oil prices exceedingly low to squelch alternative energy, and now the reserves are gone and we have to pay the real price now?

They made us into addicts and now drugs ain't free no more?

And the Texas Tycoon isn't going to be able to buy that 5 million dollar third home?

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 10:45 AM

I remember long ago on GLP it was a common thing to see "peak oil" threads.. and how long it would take to reach peak oil... and how we would know... and what life would be like after the oil dried up...

Lol that's why I was fucking shocked when they announced that Saudis we're accepting Yuan for oil..

I was like didn't they already do that?..

Lol..

Yeah dude they already had prpoerty developed there way prior to Yuan announcement..

A funny example of an old peak oil thread (2013)
Thread: Shell Oil admits Peak Oil and Climate change are real and are going to buttfuck humanity

"If people can't get the gas they need they will go WILD! MAD MAX DOOM IS COMING!"

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 10:44 AM

I suppose that is a nice parallel to the government getting involved in food prices, making Big Ag food cheaper than what local farmers can produce.

Making people addicts to Walmart.

And then whoops, no food on the Walmart shelves because the Big Ag quarter million dollar tractors won't run... on account of they don't have a 200$ part from China. Without the part, the EPA won't allow the tractors to START. Because "global warming".

So, I support my local farmer. However, and this really pisses me off,

My local farm milk went up by 30% two weeks ago. Why? (I know this sounds petty but that means I will spend 520$ a year on milk now rather than 390$ which already seemed like a LOT)

Isn't NOW the time for local farm foods to STAY at their current prices and show that we should have been supporting them all along? Isn't it their time to shine?

Is it because the local farmer needs a raise to keep up with inflation?

I suppose he needs to heat his house!

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 11:06 AM

People it's time to turn all of our lawns into pastures and landscape into food gardens and all of our glades of forest (between the houses)into managed wood lots.

People without a "plan B" are too easy to manipulate.

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 03/29/2022 11:05 AM

Call me nutty but I really think our ancestors would want us to have a plan B, and that if they look down upon us from wherever they are... which I think they do... they will help and inspire us.

Check Mate..

Saudis accept Indian Rupees..

Trump was nice to India..

Akmowledgeing them as Friends..

Here's a funny..

Jerky Boys..

"You kicked my dog"..

Syriously Cyprusyall..

I just bought a truckload of anthracite coal. Hope my neighbors like the smell of burning coal as much as I do.

Ssshh..

Keep er on the down low..

China just lost Massive amounts of coal act of God style..
Santa's even reported a shortage..