Prabhupada predicted in 1973 that within 50 years (or by 2023), the money cult would destroy itself

One last for the great Prabhupda.

He makes a good point about the destruction of, and the need for, culture.

He says that you can keep on giving people money, you can take on redistribution schemes, but they will still live lives of poverty. He gives a couple examples.

The point is money can't replace culture.

It is curious how close he came to nailing it with his 2023 prediction. Right now, with the rise of digital currencies, the mark-of-the-beast injections, and with depopulation, it is pretty clear that the money cult is throwing everything it can at trying to sustain itself: by reducing numbers and forcing high-tech slavery on the survivors.

It will fail. Their attempt will fail.

Here's the climax of the money cult:

Government protects and imposes the will of criminals and the corrupt;

Religion is a refuge for ravening wolves, pedos and power-mongers;

Medicine kills instead of heals;

Media propagandizes and lies instead of investigates for truth;

Education indoctrinates and encourages obedience instead of free thought and individualism;

Food is laden with chemicals that impede nutrition and sicken;

Theatre and music spread corruption and perversion instead of truth and culture.

On and on.

And it only gets worse from here. Get a booster. Download the social credit score app. Rat on your neighbors and family. Perpetual surveillance. Total propaganda. On down to enforced euthanasia.

He nailed it: 2023

Bump for culture

Krsna consciousness is genuine. If you strictly follow the principles: (vegetarianism, semen retention, meditation on the mantras, etc.) for at least a somewhat prolonged period of time, you'll notice differences due to the purification. Needing less sleep, more vivid dreams, and more vivid waking experience / more energy, more peace, bliss, concentration, food has a deeper taste, silence feels better, easier to think things through logically/intellectually since intelligence comes from the heart not the brain and the heart is purified by the mantra, also easier to transcend lower levels of instinct/habitual animal tendencies, etc. So we have established that Krsna consciousness is a genuine practice.

That being said, Srila Prabhupada stated that guru (spiritual master) must be considered as good as God otherwise all spiritual practices, penances, austerities for realization become useless. AND one of the yogic siddhis attained through continuous yogic practice (e.g. ajna chakra purification) is tri-kala-jnana (knowledge of past, present, and future): Lord Vishnu has this, as well as sages like Vyasadeva, author of the Mahabharata. So I expect this is the strength on which guruji Srila Prabhupada makes his statement.

Also, yes, fifty (50) years is a nice round number, but consider where the uncertainty is applied. The uncertainty cannot be applied on the figure of 50 itself, rather, on the date of collapse. The 50 is a nice round number, to allow for that room on the uncertainty on the collapse date. So it is not "within 50+/-10 years" it is collapse strictly within 50 years.

The saying "within 50 years" is quite a precise statement as it implies a *hard upper bound* on the collapse date as May 15, 2023. Prabhupada also said in a Back to Godhead 1956 newspaper article that the collapse would happen "after a lapse of 50 years." So the *hard lower bound* is 1956+50=2006 (as a rebuttal to any of those naysayers who said he failed to predict collapse within his times, or Cold War times). So the hard lower bound from the precise statement of "*after* a lapse of 50 years" in 1956, is 2006. And the hard upper bound from the precise statement of "*within* 50 years" in 1973, is 2023. So the range is [2006, 2023] and the uncertainty on the collapse date is given already by this range. There is *no* additional uncertainty on the bounds like 2023+/-5. See here for example: [link to english.stackexchange.com (secure)]

Put another way, you would be good quitting everything and doing absolutely nothing until May 15, 2023. If society hasn't completely collapsed by this exact deadline, you should get back to work. And this seems like what the globalists are suggesting anyway with their fake Christian End Times prophecy propaganda (e.g. WFH, Covid, the I Pet Goat 2 men in suits, so-called educated working professionals, really just common fools, being turned into dust)

Srila Prabhupada was also quite specific on how the collapse would happen. He said it would be due to a war between Russia and America. And what are we seeing at this moment? Petrodollar collapse. Possibility of hyperinflation.

Here is a list of exact statements of Prabhupada (assuming they were not tampered with by globalist controlled opposition etc.):

“University of Avidya. Yes. Right you are. Psychiatrists. Yes. All Western adventure to keep people in darkness. And that is going on. Now it will be smashed by the next war. Next war will come very soon. Preaching will be very nice after the war when both of them, especially Russia, will be finished. That is waiting. The whole world is awaiting that disaster. The America has got atom bomb and Russia has got atom bomb. As soon as there is another war, the whole world will be finished. Problem is, at the present moment, they have exhausted all their intellect. Now they are finding out how to bluff the people and maintain themselves. That is their problem. Yes. Yes. The people have lost faith in science because they have not produced anything. That is the problem. Because they have cheated people for so many years and drawn high salaries, now they are finding out “How to cheat these rascals and continue our business?” That is the problem. Because they have nothing to research. Everything, whatever, are finished. And all failure. Simply big, big words, that’s all. Word jugglery, that’s all. They could not do anything…What exactly they have done, something which is not done by God? They competition with God, so what they have done? What is their contribution? … [Moon landing] that is another bluff. You see? And these rascals are believing them. That will take place. Otherwise, how they will be killed? [implying that these rascals have to be killed due to their sinful activities like promiscuous sex/meat eating]. They are accumulated with so much sinful load that must be killed. That is sure. The massacre. That will take place. The sinless people will survive? Yes. Who is that? We. There was an artificial famine in India…in 1942 the artificial famine created by government…so there were big earthquake in Bihar…in that earthquake only his house was saved [speaking of devotee]. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati (Bhagavad Gita 9.31). It is not meant for them[devotees], all these dangerous condition. Now the nuclear war means it will not continue very long…war will be for a few days only. This war will not prolong. That is not possible. It is big war, but it will be finished within short time. The war will stop because the party which will be able to drop the bomb first, he will be victorious. Then after effects, what will happen, that is another thing. But the war will not continue for ten years or five years, like that…friendship with Pakistan only for this reason…if from Pakistan they can drop the first bomb in Moscow... Actually it has no value. Suppose you have got some papers. Each paper it is written there "one thousand dollars." But if there is no grain, what will this one-thousand-dollars paper will do? It actually so happened in the last war in Germany. Their money was thrown in the street. Nobody cared to take it, because it has no exchange. So long the paper money you can exchange, there is value. Otherwise it is paper only. But if you have got actual commodity—grains and cows—then you can eat in any circumstances. Never mind war is going on; you don't care. You get sufficient food. What you will do with the paper money? So this paper currency is useless. If the things are going on nicely it has value, but in times of crisis it has no value.” - SP

How do the globalists expect to deal with the genuine Brahminical Aryan Hindu religion of billions of people? They have tried Netflix level subversion, feminist b.s. controlled opposition, and propaganda, but it will never work among the truly educated and conservative class of Hindus.

To anyone reading this: Prabhupada also said that happiness and destiny are fixed up based upon bodily karma. And that one hasn't got to try for their destiny, they will automatically receive it. Also he said that if one makes a desire, Krsna [God/Spirit] must fulfill it and give you the facilities to do so. And that the only way to change bodily karma is by surrendering to Krsna.

So there are very specific implications here regarding karma [actions] and Maya [this mundane world of illusion] and how to navigate your way through them. You need not even work to obtain fake paper money. The main goal is cultivating purity and Krsna consciousness so you can transcend this world and so that this world can give you what you need from it instead of you wasting your time in useless directions.

Thus, we can see how the Freemasonic brainwashing of children in public schools through science (the atheistic materialistic scientific theory that all action is due to mathematics operating on tiny atoms or molecules) is very very very debilitating and harmful. It is a crime committed upon the spiritual nature of people, and the elite are perfectly aware of this.

I encourage anyone reading this to simply quit everything, and meditate to cultivate purity. And to reject bodily atomic science completely, if not in favor of some Indian cult, than at least in favor of a mind and consciousness-centered philosophy.

It was an educated guess, but not a dumb one.

I've already decided I'd rather live a far more modest Indian lifestyle, whether or not they can keep the Petrodollar extortion racket, and thus our lavish western lives, going a few more years or its collapse is imminent. All my plans are now directed toward getting a five year visa and enough to eke out a materially simple, but spiritually rich, living, whether the marriage I have lined up pan out or not.

Sadly, it appears that ISKCON is only too willing to accept ADL balderdash at face value, so I'll choose to remain, with HDG, a target of irrational, visceral hatred, just as long as I can keep sovereignty of thought and speech, unlike those 'devotees' who've chosen to align with the agendas of shameless liars and supremacists.

If you believe that there is something of transcendent value in Srila Prabhupada's teachings, something beyond sensory perception, then it would be incorrect, a mistake, to call this simply "an educated guess." It's not like some normal person or regular economist mundane scholar is looking at graphs or reading ZeroHedge. Nah. Also what does "educated" even mean? It's worthless

The fact is modern civilization is karmically unsustainable. You can't just go on spending energy without recouping it (and by energy I don't mean oil/solar etc, I mean life energy of the human being). This is what asuric means (having a store of good karma enough to be born with a strong body and store of merits, but then pissing away those merits into a black hole). This is what was meant when Srila Prabhupada said "asuric civilization". See here, from Wikipedia ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The asura realm is one of the realms one can be reborn into within the six realms. Rebirth here is a result of experiencing the fruits of wholesome karma while engaging in unwholesome karma. So anything material has a limited lifespan. Though it can be extended, only if the consciousness/life energy sanctions it.

I think Pythagoras, the Grecian sage, also said that wars and wholesale slaughter of human beings in wars is a direct karmic result of maintaining slaughterhouses and just eating meat whenever you want. In the old days (whether you're Abrahamic or Pagan) meat was always offered to deities as a sacrifice before eating. Trained priests (in India's case, brahmanas) had rituals where they would speak mantras and bathe the animal in water before sacrificing it in fire or ritually slaughtering it. Only then after the meat was offered to devas could humans eat it. But then the practice became corrupted and people wanted to eat meat just for taste and now here we are.

So only the stupid and sinful individuals with a heavy karmic load will be massacred. Not those with purified and free physical and subtle bodies with a pure intelligence. Fasting and meditation and chanting japa and vegetarianism and semen retention is needed (penance).

Yeah. I agree about just living a more modest lifestyle anyway. Though there are some passions I have not fully controlled yet, I don't claim to be a pure devotee by any means lol. I don't even really care much about politics anymore because it's so contaminated and subverted on so many dimensions you can't even tell who's controlled opposition. Politicians and all liars should be massacred first, and the controlled opposition should just spill over into pure opposition. If the dollar collapses then the unwashed masses will not care about anything anymore. I look forward to such a moment and I will relish it.

When i read you, i see, you see it as a repentance for wrongdoing. What kind of wrong ? Is it wrong? Is it able to dictate what and how to think? Listening to others more, than your own inner curiosity?

No, they will just change the currency.

That's why they are called the money changers.

Prabhupada in his interpretation of the Bhagavad Gita explains that the "world" is a spiritual plane.

Take the word plane and put a cross (or a Greek Tao) at the end of it, a t, and you get planet.

He said that when we die, based on our karma, or spiritual baggage, we reincarnate to other planes, other planets.

When we look out at other plane(t)s, we are looking through biophysical organs that are calibrated for this plane(t) and therefore cannot "see" the life on the other plane(t)s. The machines and equipment we develop to do the looking for us are merely extensions of ourselves, and thus have built-in limitations that disable from being able to perceive the life.

Another poster said that Prabhupada said that the feedback loop karma system is determinate and so you don't have to do anything in this life. That was only half true. The Bhagavad Gita says that action, meaning work or acts, is superior to inaction. It calls the devotee to do the work, the acts, offered.

Nice thread op. Hari Om.

The Bhagavad Gita says that action, meaning work or acts, is superior to inaction. It calls the devotee to do the work, the acts, offered.

i agree with this
it works as well in quantum theory
where we all make a point/change/influence/pressure,
we collapse a function, or the other will do it
= maintaining balance..
there are many wor(l)ds

thoughts about the thread subject:
money will buy you material, a reward, which only prolongs the way to "home"



Last Edited by Funney on 03/31/2022 03:09 PM

Greed.

That about sums it up. Never enough.

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Said the founder of the ISKON Krishna cult who grifted his way into millions of dollars of donations and a business empire then died a multi-millionaire.