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What is really going on in Ukraine ?

 
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04/07/2022 05:56 AM
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
There's lots of Twitter accounts promoting a pro-Russian narrative and claiming the Russians are winning, they get posted on GLP every day.
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
The information war all over the internet is really bad. It is hard to form a balanced opinion.

Twitter the only real source for information coming out of Ukraine, is in reality just an Echo Chamber for fervent Russia Haters.

There is virtually nothing on Twitter what you can form an opinion on. Other than Videos of Bodies being moved from A-B etc for PR. Stuff they want you to see to influence you.

And occasionally crisis actors popping up in similar style videos.

What is the real truth on the ground war wise in Ukraine though ?.

Random no marks, and their random Tweets say Russia is losing badly. That material losses are unsustainable. Offering nothing in evidence, other than their own opinion. That Russia is down to its last couple of Dozen Kalibr Missiles. That Russian forces have been routed and have fully retreated to the East of Ukraine. That Ukraine Military is currently refitting, and restocking Missiles for the final Battle to obliterate Russian forces and declare total victory.

Sure that might be the case.....Why then only show the same fucking contentious images over and over.

WTF are we supposed to make of it all ?

When you think back to wars in Iraq etc with embedded reporters. It was easier to get a feel for what was going on.

Now we are just hearing random shit, supported by random suspect media. And getting random Uncle Intel on GLP.

Disturbing how controlled the internet has become.

Even on GLP they are like Flies on Shit when anyone questions the official narrative.

Thoughts.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks




Op I completely relate.

The best I can offer is this. What is happening in Ukraine is not a white/black issue.

If you find yourself on either the pro-putin or pro-ukraine side then...congratulations

You have drank the Kool-Aid.

Ukraine, like all things, is a grey shaded situation.

Thats how these elite operate. They are masters of understanding duality and utilizing said duality to polarize the populace.

Ukraine and Russia, I feel, is meant soley to help bring about their great reset.

It gives these assholes, much like covid, a scapegoat to pin all their shenanigans on with bringing down the world economy.

That is all that will materialize from this. Whether its about bringing on a much bigger war that will absolutely implode the old world order or just simply implode the worlds economies, either way this is meant fo destroy so they can build back better.

Stop being for either side. They're both bullshit. Instead we should all be at our Capitols with pitchforks and torches demanding all our politicians to step down.

If we did this all this shit would stop. The only losers in this whole situation are, as always, the populations.

We need to stop being a binary, easily manipulated, either/or society and understand duality, Hegelian dialectic and start understanding this world is not white or black but grey.


If we can do this we'd be much better of resisting their manipulation. But alas, ignorance is rampant and that is no accident either.
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
The information war all over the internet is really bad. It is hard to form a balanced opinion.

Twitter the only real source for information coming out of Ukraine, is in reality just an Echo Chamber for fervent Russia Haters.

There is virtually nothing on Twitter what you can form an opinion on. Other than Videos of Bodies being moved from A-B etc for PR. Stuff they want you to see to influence you.

And occasionally crisis actors popping up in similar style videos.

What is the real truth on the ground war wise in Ukraine though ?.

Random no marks, and their random Tweets say Russia is losing badly. That material losses are unsustainable. Offering nothing in evidence, other than their own opinion. That Russia is down to its last couple of Dozen Kalibr Missiles. That Russian forces have been routed and have fully retreated to the East of Ukraine. That Ukraine Military is currently refitting, and restocking Missiles for the final Battle to obliterate Russian forces and declare total victory.

Sure that might be the case.....Why then only show the same fucking contentious images over and over.

WTF are we supposed to make of it all ?

When you think back to wars in Iraq etc with embedded reporters. It was easier to get a feel for what was going on.

Now we are just hearing random shit, supported by random suspect media. And getting random Uncle Intel on GLP.

Disturbing how controlled the internet has become.

Even on GLP they are like Flies on Shit when anyone questions the official narrative.

Thoughts.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks




Op I completely relate.

The best I can offer is this. What is happening in Ukraine is not a white/black issue.

If you find yourself on either the pro-putin or pro-ukraine side then...congratulations

You have drank the Kool-Aid.

Ukraine, like all things, is a grey shaded situation.

Thats how these elite operate. They are masters of understanding duality and utilizing said duality to polarize the populace.

Ukraine and Russia, I feel, is meant soley to help bring about their great reset.

It gives these assholes, much like covid, a scapegoat to pin all their shenanigans on with bringing down the world economy.

That is all that will materialize from this. Whether its about bringing on a much bigger war that will absolutely implode the old world order or just simply implode the worlds economies, either way this is meant fo destroy so they can build back better.

Stop being for either side. They're both bullshit. Instead we should all be at our Capitols with pitchforks and torches demanding all our politicians to step down.

If we did this all this shit would stop. The only losers in this whole situation are, as always, the populations.

We need to stop being a binary, easily manipulated, either/or society and understand duality, Hegelian dialectic and start understanding this world is not white or black but grey.


If we can do this we'd be much better of resisting their manipulation. But alas, ignorance is rampant and that is no accident either.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


Post of the day award goes to you.
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04/07/2022 06:57 AM
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
What is going on in the Ukraine is what always goes on in war. The banksters that control the politicians are running things. They play both sides, get rich stealing from the taxpayers via the corrupt politicians, who get rich with secret bank accounts, their "foundations", and any other twisted way they can launder the money. This is how it works, and has for centuries. Nothing new under the sun. With social media it is easier to manipulate the public into going along with whatever narrative they decide to go with, but it also presents an opportunity for some truth to slide through as well. The insane losers running our world are nothing but incestuous, vile, bored morons, who never had to work hard for anything, so they spend their every waking hour destroying everything they can like a spoiled three-year-old. They all belong to the families, and nothing big happens in this world without their say so. It's been more than obvious the last few years between the plandemic, riots in the major cities across the world, and now this BS "war". Everyone involved is a player. NATO, USA, the EU and yes, Putin and Russia. It's how the game is played and the citizenry of their world is looked upon as nothing but useless chattel. Thems the facts.
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
I watch western and ukrainian reporting on the conflict for entertainment purposes.

It's so silly it becomes funny in a sense.
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
The information war all over the internet is really bad. It is hard to form a balanced opinion.

Twitter the only real source for information coming out of Ukraine, is in reality just an Echo Chamber for fervent Russia Haters.

There is virtually nothing on Twitter what you can form an opinion on. Other than Videos of Bodies being moved from A-B etc for PR. Stuff they want you to see to influence you.

And occasionally crisis actors popping up in similar style videos.

What is the real truth on the ground war wise in Ukraine though ?.

Random no marks, and their random Tweets say Russia is losing badly. That material losses are unsustainable. Offering nothing in evidence, other than their own opinion. That Russia is down to its last couple of Dozen Kalibr Missiles. That Russian forces have been routed and have fully retreated to the East of Ukraine. That Ukraine Military is currently refitting, and restocking Missiles for the final Battle to obliterate Russian forces and declare total victory.

Sure that might be the case.....Why then only show the same fucking contentious images over and over.

WTF are we supposed to make of it all ?

When you think back to wars in Iraq etc with embedded reporters. It was easier to get a feel for what was going on.

Now we are just hearing random shit, supported by random suspect media. And getting random Uncle Intel on GLP.

Disturbing how controlled the internet has become.

Even on GLP they are like Flies on Shit when anyone questions the official narrative.

Thoughts.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks




Op I completely relate.

The best I can offer is this. What is happening in Ukraine is not a white/black issue.

If you find yourself on either the pro-putin or pro-ukraine side then...congratulations

You have drank the Kool-Aid.

Ukraine, like all things, is a grey shaded situation.

Thats how these elite operate. They are masters of understanding duality and utilizing said duality to polarize the populace.

Ukraine and Russia, I feel, is meant soley to help bring about their great reset.

It gives these assholes, much like covid, a scapegoat to pin all their shenanigans on with bringing down the world economy.

That is all that will materialize from this. Whether its about bringing on a much bigger war that will absolutely implode the old world order or just simply implode the worlds economies, either way this is meant fo destroy so they can build back better.

Stop being for either side. They're both bullshit. Instead we should all be at our Capitols with pitchforks and torches demanding all our politicians to step down.

If we did this all this shit would stop. The only losers in this whole situation are, as always, the populations.

We need to stop being a binary, easily manipulated, either/or society and understand duality, Hegelian dialectic and start understanding this world is not white or black but grey.


If we can do this we'd be much better of resisting their manipulation. But alas, ignorance is rampant and that is no accident either.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


Post of the day award goes to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82740576




Meh, this post will be buried and most people that see it will either get triggered and try to start pleading their case for either side or read it and stop for a second and think, then they'll read another posts that triggers their programming then their eyes will glaze back over and they'll be back to doing what NPC's do best.

Outrage and virtue signaling

But cheers my dude and keep the faith. Despite my cynicism I do still retain hope ultimately for humanity and I don't care how naive it makes me look.
"She isn't real.....I can't make her real"

"Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder"

"The World is a business Mr Beale..."

"You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......"

ENFJ
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04/07/2022 07:34 AM
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
Flipping through the fake news channels I see that Russia is losing badly, Russian soldiers are on the verge of defeat, Russian soldiers are demoralized and quitting. Then a clip of supposedly many dead Ukranians...during this time of great losing Russia has the time and resources to commit war crimes with massive casualties. And the world Holocaust being thrown around already.

And then there is a less filtered version of fake news happening on the internet. It is absolutely confusing.

Anyone else see some white supremist graffiti in the background of the stock footage of ukrainian slaughter?
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04/07/2022 07:37 AM
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
Worth the time. Sort of like "Ukraine On Fire," but brings things up to close to the present day.

In a nutshell, the same Satanic Deep State that persecutes Trump, created a fake pandemic, promotes critical race theory and drag queen story hour, is pro-pedophilia, pushes the globe/heliocentric lie, etc. also staged a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and has been using it for money laundering and bioweapons manufacturing.


 Quoting: New Atlantis


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04/07/2022 07:39 AM
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
What the fuck are you talking about? Russian armor is getting fucked up by Javelins and NLAWs. But the upcoming battles in the east are going to require more than that, which is why Ukraine is now asking for countries to send them tanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32553563


you mean the russian tanks that cz sent them? oh yeah, they will be blowed up lol

and the propaganda machine will say, look, we blew up russian tanks

lol

give it up soi boi
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You sound too low IQ to have a conversation with. Bye bye.
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i was jus trying to dumb it down to your level,

go sniff your A1 sauce balls bitch
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I'm guessing you're too stupid to realize it, but you sound really stupid.
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?
Perhaps Putin is simply showboating to retain his power.

Any head of state who desires a long reign sounds like a dictator. Power is a drug, and those on top don't want to let it go.

This could all just be a PR stunt so Putin can eke out the next decade in charge. He's got some gains, still has Crimea (haven't heard any demands that he return it)

Maybe the reason Putin sent in green-faced soldiers is that he was happy to sacrifice them and some shitty tanks. He could well retreat now and claim to the gullible/censored Russians that he was successful, predominantly as regards the oil for ruble deal.

He speaks a lot of war posturing without delivering. Just media bites to make him look tough and hold onto power.

Let's be honest, every politician is a crook. Putin, Zelinsky, Bidet, BoJo...they all come out of this with good pubolicity and probably money
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Re: What is really going on in Ukraine ?

The information war all over the internet is really bad. It is hard to form a balanced opinion.

Twitter the only real source for information coming out of Ukraine, is in reality just an Echo Chamber for fervent Russia Haters.

There is virtually nothing on Twitter what you can form an opinion on. Other than Videos of Bodies being moved from A-B etc for PR. Stuff they want you to see to influence you.

And occasionally crisis actors popping up in similar style videos.

What is the real truth on the ground war wise in Ukraine though ?.

Random no marks, and their random Tweets say Russia is losing badly. That material losses are unsustainable. Offering nothing in evidence, other than their own opinion. That Russia is down to its last couple of Dozen Kalibr Missiles. That Russian forces have been routed and have fully retreated to the East of Ukraine. That Ukraine Military is currently refitting, and restocking Missiles for the final Battle to obliterate Russian forces and declare total victory.

Sure that might be the case.....Why then only show the same fucking contentious

From what I understand, Twitter is actively suspending ANY account that doesn't proclaim that the Ukrainian army is decimating the Russian army, that the Russians are killing civilians indiscriminately, and the Russians are shelling civilian areas.

In other words, Twitter is full-on promoting the Ukrainian cause, even if the facts don't bear that out.

So it is unlikely that you will hear on twitter any opinion that differs from the official US military narrative, which is also likely why GLP has been getting cyber attacked recently as well, because people here tend to question the official narrative.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks


Not true. I was suspended multiple times for msaying anti Russian stuff

Last Edited by HKielbasah on 04/07/2022 08:15 AM





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