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Come on, in what free society is this ok?

I guess if you live in the West then "Putin is bad". And if you do not believe that the governments will make sure that your only access to news is from the west.

Well, given the attention the other thread has gotten I guess nobody cares. I do care however and was thinking about writing something about what I just saw.

However, I cannot go into details because they are considered "naughty" terms in here. You know damned well what I mean.

What I can tell you in general is that:

Security certificates are being pulled from all major Russian sites since about 10 days. No certificate, no traffic.

Russia Today now completely blocked by ISP's in Spein: Contenido bloqueado por requerimiento de la Autoridad Competente, comunicado a esta Operadora -- Use a translator.

Same for the other government backed news service which name I cannot even mention in here. Started? My best guess is this week.

All search results leading to Russia Today and the "other" completely filtered out after the EU requested it. timeframe around two weeks ago.

Also good luck finding RT on any satellite network any more. started blocking around one month ago.

There's more but I cannot risk it with the terms.

THIS. IS. INSANE.

Who will they come after next? This site?

What are you going to do about it?

What CAN you do about it?
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Thread: CENSORSHIP: Russian TV banned by our government
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It's not censored I just was on RT
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It's not censored I just was on RT
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On cable or satellite?

Over here RT is censored all over the EU, including where I live (Spain).

And it pisses me off.
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Cell phone internet and cable internet
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Let's provide a bit of balance to this thread, and discuss some scenarios to consider when living in the CITIES.

Thread: Breaking news! Because of chinas covid lockdown, millions in Shanghai are on the brink of STARVATION!
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It's not censored I just was on RT
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their latest vid is from 4 years ago
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pretty sure i was banned from twitter before RT

and many thousands of others

so they didnt come first
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Cell phone internet and cable internet
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Then I guess at this time ISP's in the U.S. are not blocking RT.....YET.
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pretty sure i was banned from twitter before RT

and many thousands of others

so they didnt come first
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jaynod

True. But you did understand the meaning of the title as many others will and it is those eyes I want on this thread.
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And another thing.

Live feed plugins/add-ons for Russia Today?

Gone.

For all browsers. I never had such an add-on but look for the discussions online and you will find a few puzzled individuals who are asking how come an installed piece of software can simply vanish from their computers without their consent or reason given?

This too happened over the last two weeks.
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First they came for Russia Today
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First they came for a foreign enemies propaganda outlet broadcasting far and wide over the 50 states.
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And another thing.

Live feed plugins/add-ons for Russia Today?

Gone.

For all browsers. I never had such an add-on but look for the discussions online and you will find a few puzzled individuals who are asking how come an installed piece of software can simply vanish from their computers without their consent or reason given?

This too happened over the last two weeks.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


Ok, those companies who made those plug-ins dropped support for the propaganda channel. It's a FOREIGN news outlet, you get that, right?
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First they came for Russia Today
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First they came for a foreign enemies propaganda outlet broadcasting far and wide over the 50 states.
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Yeah ..op should try going to russia where everything is banned.
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Sorry guys. Censorship is NEVER the answer.

I want the RIGHT to watch propaganda and judge for myself and not let governments decide what I can and cannot see.

Here you go - European Commission ordering Google to scrub the search results for those "propaganda" sites.

In the Regulation the legislator intends to set out a very broad and comprehensive prohibition.
Internet search services are provided by “operators” for the purposes of the Regulation. The
Regulation prohibits both the broadcasting (which is a very broad concept in this Regulation) and
the fact that operators “enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast”. The Regulation
refers in that regard to “including through transmission or distribution by any means such as
cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or
applications.” Furthermore, the anti-circumvention clause laid down in the Regulation is worded
in very broad terms. A broad construction of the prohibition laid down in the Regulation is also
consistent with its objective, which is in particular to tackle the fact that RT and Sputnik have to
date gravely distorted and manipulated facts and have repeatedly and consistently targeted
European political parties, especially during election periods, as well as civil society, asylum
seekers, Russian ethnic minorities, gender minorities, and the functioning of democratic
institutions in the Union and its Member States (recital 6); the Russian Federation has engaged in
continuous and concerted propaganda actions targeted at civil society in the Union and
neighbouring countries, gravely distorting and manipulating facts (recital 7).


filed March 4, 2022

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Recipient: Google LLC.


If that does not scare you or concern you so be it.

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Yeah ..op should try going to russia where everything is banned.
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Hint: The Soviet Union does no longer exist.
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It's Up..

Confirmed..
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First they came for Russia Today
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First they came for a foreign enemies propaganda outlet broadcasting far and wide over the 50 states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82790655


Yeah ..op should try going to russia where everything is banned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14991090


Right?

It's time to start thinking right, war is around the corner.
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Yeah ..op should try going to russia where everything is banned.
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Hint: The Soviet Union does no longer exist.
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Hint: The Ghost of Stalin still haunts the halls of the Kremlin.
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They transfered my is site to a new server and installed a security certificate (which I always warned people to avoid using because it can be used to censor by denying access due to "problems with the certificate" and the instant they applied that certificate my site went BLINK. Gone.

Trying to fix it. Oh well, I have four other servers and managed to monkey branch well enough to only lose about 15 percent of my readership.
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Sorry guys. Censorship is NEVER the answer.

I want the RIGHT to watch propaganda and judge for myself and not let governments decide what I can and cannot see.

Here you go - European Commission ordering Google to scrub the search results for those "propaganda" sites.

In the Regulation the legislator intends to set out a very broad and comprehensive prohibition.
Internet search services are provided by “operators” for the purposes of the Regulation. The
Regulation prohibits both the broadcasting (which is a very broad concept in this Regulation) and
the fact that operators “enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast”. The Regulation
refers in that regard to “including through transmission or distribution by any means such as
cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or
applications.” Furthermore, the anti-circumvention clause laid down in the Regulation is worded
in very broad terms. A broad construction of the prohibition laid down in the Regulation is also
consistent with its objective, which is in particular to tackle the fact that RT and Sputnik have to
date gravely distorted and manipulated facts and have repeatedly and consistently targeted
European political parties, especially during election periods, as well as civil society, asylum
seekers, Russian ethnic minorities, gender minorities, and the functioning of democratic
institutions in the Union and its Member States (recital 6); the Russian Federation has engaged in
continuous and concerted propaganda actions targeted at civil society in the Union and
neighbouring countries, gravely distorting and manipulating facts (recital 7).


filed March 4, 2022

[link to lumendatabase.org (secure)]

Sender: EU Commision
Recipient: Google LLC.


If that does not scare you or concern you so be it.

We all deserve our chosen reality.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


In a time of WAR, enemies shall not broadcast propaganda into the homeland unchallenged.
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They transfered my is site to a new server and installed a security certificate (which I always warned people to avoid using because it can be used to censor by denying access due to "problems with the certificate" and the instant they applied that certificate my site went BLINK. Gone.

Trying to fix it. Oh well, I have four other servers and managed to monkey branch well enough to only lose about 15 percent of my readership.
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now they are pulling "We can't release your domain so you can host it elsewhere" B.S. all because of a Hunter pic they hated.
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Sorry guys. Censorship is NEVER the answer.

I want the RIGHT to watch propaganda and judge for myself and not let governments decide what I can and cannot see.

Here you go - European Commission ordering Google to scrub the search results for those "propaganda" sites.

In the Regulation the legislator intends to set out a very broad and comprehensive prohibition.
Internet search services are provided by “operators” for the purposes of the Regulation. The
Regulation prohibits both the broadcasting (which is a very broad concept in this Regulation) and
the fact that operators “enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast”. The Regulation
refers in that regard to “including through transmission or distribution by any means such as
cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or
applications.” Furthermore, the anti-circumvention clause laid down in the Regulation is worded
in very broad terms. A broad construction of the prohibition laid down in the Regulation is also
consistent with its objective, which is in particular to tackle the fact that RT and Sputnik have to
date gravely distorted and manipulated facts and have repeatedly and consistently targeted
European political parties, especially during election periods, as well as civil society, asylum
seekers, Russian ethnic minorities, gender minorities, and the functioning of democratic
institutions in the Union and its Member States (recital 6); the Russian Federation has engaged in
continuous and concerted propaganda actions targeted at civil society in the Union and
neighbouring countries, gravely distorting and manipulating facts (recital 7).


filed March 4, 2022

[link to lumendatabase.org (secure)]

Sender: EU Commision
Recipient: Google LLC.


If that does not scare you or concern you so be it.

We all deserve our chosen reality.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


In a time of WAR, enemies shall not broadcast propaganda into the homeland unchallenged.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82790655


Who made them the enemy? Russia did not maim half the American population with a death shot. That alone makes them the better guys. Where are the good guys? Who knows. But better is better don't ya know!
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In a time of WAR, enemies shall not broadcast propaganda into the homeland unchallenged.
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Has the U.S. declared war on Russia?
Has the EU declared war on Russia?

I think not.
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They transfered my is site to a new server and installed a security certificate (which I always warned people to avoid using because it can be used to censor by denying access due to "problems with the certificate" and the instant they applied that certificate my site went BLINK. Gone.

Trying to fix it. Oh well, I have four other servers and managed to monkey branch well enough to only lose about 15 percent of my readership.
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I know EXACTLY what you mean. Also on the domain hosting.

It's a "war" you will eventually lose unless you get a bunch of guys together and setup an offshore server farm.
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Sorry guys. Censorship is NEVER the answer.

I want the RIGHT to watch propaganda and judge for myself and not let governments decide what I can and cannot see.

Here you go - European Commission ordering Google to scrub the search results for those "propaganda" sites.

In the Regulation the legislator intends to set out a very broad and comprehensive prohibition.
Internet search services are provided by “operators” for the purposes of the Regulation. The
Regulation prohibits both the broadcasting (which is a very broad concept in this Regulation) and
the fact that operators “enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast”. The Regulation
refers in that regard to “including through transmission or distribution by any means such as
cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or
applications.” Furthermore, the anti-circumvention clause laid down in the Regulation is worded
in very broad terms. A broad construction of the prohibition laid down in the Regulation is also
consistent with its objective, which is in particular to tackle the fact that RT and Sputnik have to
date gravely distorted and manipulated facts and have repeatedly and consistently targeted
European political parties, especially during election periods, as well as civil society, asylum
seekers, Russian ethnic minorities, gender minorities, and the functioning of democratic
institutions in the Union and its Member States (recital 6); the Russian Federation has engaged in
continuous and concerted propaganda actions targeted at civil society in the Union and
neighbouring countries, gravely distorting and manipulating facts (recital 7).


filed March 4, 2022

[link to lumendatabase.org (secure)]

Sender: EU Commision
Recipient: Google LLC.


If that does not scare you or concern you so be it.

We all deserve our chosen reality.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


In a time of WAR, enemies shall not broadcast propaganda into the homeland unchallenged.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82790655


Who made them the enemy? Russia did not maim half the American population with a death shot. That alone makes them the better guys. Where are the good guys? Who knows. But better is better don't ya know!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82741563


Russia has boots on the ground in Europe, it's time to get right. No more bullshit pussyfooting about things. Russia is the enemy, they will not be allowed into Europe again.

NATO's sworn reason for existing, you fool!
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In a time of WAR, enemies shall not broadcast propaganda into the homeland unchallenged.
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Has the U.S. declared war on Russia?
Has the EU declared war on Russia?

I think not.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


Do you live in Spain?

Is Spain in Europe?

Is Ukraine European?

Is Putler having a special military adventure into Europe?

You do the math, this is only escalating, it's time to screw your head on straight. I know for anybody under 40 that is going to be a real mind-bender, but you are human. And humans are amazingly flexible
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They want to get rid of all the real news so their CIA propaganda will be the only 'news' you can get.
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Do you live in Spain?

Is Spain in Europe?

Is Ukraine European?

Is Putler having a special military adventure into Europe?

You do the math, this is only escalating, it's time to screw your head on straight. I know for anybody under 40 that is going to be a real mind-bender, but you are human. And humans are amazingly flexible
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There are always two sides of the story. Never has this been more true than in the case of Ukraine.

Now one side of the story is being deep-sixed.

Nothing to see here folks. Just move on right?

My head is perfectly straight. I can see more clearly every day where the real danger lies and it is certainly not what we are being told in the west.
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They want to get rid of all the real news so their CIA propaganda will be the only 'news' you can get.
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And they are succeeding. Alas.
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"RT is Russian state propaganda"

I disagree. And what does that make ABC/CNN/CBS I wonder?
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Putin needs to pull the plug on the Russian internet like he said he was going to do. Just like his baby raping military, they can't even do this simple job.





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