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User ID: 76832232 United States 04/18/2022 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This seems a likely possibility How the Ancients Cut Stone with Sound - Lost High Technology Explained [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56089245 United States 04/18/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is theory is that it just shifts the magic to something else. The problem with archeology (which it shares with others) is that there is no room for ambiguity. Right now, the theory is that the perfect cutting and perfect hoisting was done with the technologies of the time. Ridiculous, of course, but there's no interest in saying, "We don't know." You're doing the same thing here but a little worse. Some "ancient polymer molded concrete" would explain the perfect forming of the stones. How did they do that with limestone? "We don't know and our only clue is that they are perfectly formed." And you're close-minded to alternative ideas. How are you any better than them? When you add in that it wasn't just limestone but also granite, which is igneous, and you're saying they chemically cured to achieve an igneous mineral? Cool. Now you're violating what we know about physics. Theories of aliens don't even do that. |
hankie
Everything User ID: 80628258 United States 04/18/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found one write-up that has some sense to it. I will add that vibration cuts smoothly and quickly through different materials with no moving parts except for high-speed vibrations. We use those types of tools today. I have two types of the scroll saw and one multi-took cutter that is a vibrating saw. There is also sound back in those ancient days, the sounds from instruments from a lyre and pipe instruments, they started with rock instruments. Besides vibrating, they had the force of water, and also heating stone could be from magnifying glass and the heat would be from the sun, I have seen holes burned through stone to show it works a long time ago. Today, today uses cutting tools that cut steel and other material with pressure type water cutting tools much as the router CRD router? Right off I forgot the initials of the cutting table router today. You don't do the cutting, you set the pattern and the computer cuts it. The water one cuts it just as well. So, by what has been used in our day, the magnifying glass to burn through stone and do it really well, they could have done it then also, along with water. Don't think they could not have thought things up as modern man has because they sure did this before Egypt was Egypt. UR, Sumer civilization cut statues out of hard stone also. They cut extremely hard black stone harder than most stone, diamonds are not as sable as this black stone they cut and it on pare with the hardness of diamonds. [link to reach-unlimited.com] Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82896412 France 04/18/2022 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is theory is that it just shifts the magic to something else. The problem with archeology (which it shares with others) is that there is no room for ambiguity. Right now, the theory is that the perfect cutting and perfect hoisting was done with the technologies of the time. Ridiculous, of course, but there's no interest in saying, "We don't know." You're doing the same thing here but a little worse. Some "ancient polymer molded concrete" would explain the perfect forming of the stones. How did they do that with limestone? "We don't know and our only clue is that they are perfectly formed." And you're close-minded to alternative ideas. How are you any better than them? When you add in that it wasn't just limestone but also granite, which is igneous, and you're saying they chemically cured to achieve an igneous mineral? Cool. Now you're violating what we know about physics. Theories of aliens don't even do that. There's no limestone included in geopolymer formula, those academicians that rule what is true or not, have an agenda to brainwash the public to endorse the alien theory, claiming alien beings from utter space seeded life on Earth and that someday they will come back to visit their plantation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74643189 United States 04/18/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is theory is that it just shifts the magic to something else. The problem with archeology (which it shares with others) is that there is no room for ambiguity. Right now, the theory is that the perfect cutting and perfect hoisting was done with the technologies of the time. Ridiculous, of course, but there's no interest in saying, "We don't know." You're doing the same thing here but a little worse. Some "ancient polymer molded concrete" would explain the perfect forming of the stones. How did they do that with limestone? "We don't know and our only clue is that they are perfectly formed." And you're close-minded to alternative ideas. How are you any better than them? When you add in that it wasn't just limestone but also granite, which is igneous, and you're saying they chemically cured to achieve an igneous mineral? Cool. Now you're violating what we know about physics. Theories of aliens don't even do that. I'm telling you for a fact that civilizations that predate this time, we're in fact, human looking beings not originally from this planet. Hence why pyramids are found across the entire globe on every major continent. This can only be possible if they had a common source of knowledge that could travel the entire planet and guide the civilizations at the time to all be invested in making pyramids a priority. It's actually a no brainer. It's in the Bible. Just look at the book of Jacob. And the cities that hovered in the sky/ firmament. Who he was wise to recognized were not "holy" or "gods" and questioned why they were asking him to perform measurements. He would never question God if it was so. This is the problem with religious people. They still believe in magic. They still read their book and base it on harry Potter when in reality, it's basically star wars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74643189 United States 04/18/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is theory is that it just shifts the magic to something else. The problem with archeology (which it shares with others) is that there is no room for ambiguity. Right now, the theory is that the perfect cutting and perfect hoisting was done with the technologies of the time. Ridiculous, of course, but there's no interest in saying, "We don't know." You're doing the same thing here but a little worse. Some "ancient polymer molded concrete" would explain the perfect forming of the stones. How did they do that with limestone? "We don't know and our only clue is that they are perfectly formed." And you're close-minded to alternative ideas. How are you any better than them? When you add in that it wasn't just limestone but also granite, which is igneous, and you're saying they chemically cured to achieve an igneous mineral? Cool. Now you're violating what we know about physics. Theories of aliens don't even do that. There's no limestone included in geopolymer formula, those academicians that rule what is true or not, have an agenda to brainwash the public to endorse the alien theory, claiming alien beings from utter space seeded life on Earth and that someday they will come back to visit their plantation. Dude probably really believes the pyramid was made with pullies and ropes, with expert level knowledge of advanced physics despite the production beginning right after the so called "stone age" You'd have to really want to hold on to your preconceived notions of convoluted pullies and strings |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82896412 France 04/18/2022 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is theory is that it just shifts the magic to something else. The problem with archeology (which it shares with others) is that there is no room for ambiguity. Right now, the theory is that the perfect cutting and perfect hoisting was done with the technologies of the time. Ridiculous, of course, but there's no interest in saying, "We don't know." You're doing the same thing here but a little worse. Some "ancient polymer molded concrete" would explain the perfect forming of the stones. How did they do that with limestone? "We don't know and our only clue is that they are perfectly formed." And you're close-minded to alternative ideas. How are you any better than them? When you add in that it wasn't just limestone but also granite, which is igneous, and you're saying they chemically cured to achieve an igneous mineral? Cool. Now you're violating what we know about physics. Theories of aliens don't even do that. There's no limestone included in geopolymer formula, those academicians that rule what is true or not, have an agenda to brainwash the public to endorse the alien theory, claiming alien beings from utter space seeded life on Earth and that someday they will come back to visit their plantation. Dude probably really believes the pyramid was made with pullies and ropes, with expert level knowledge of advanced physics despite the production beginning right after the so called "stone age" You'd have to really want to hold on to your preconceived notions of convoluted pullies and strings Big blocks were lifted with lift device, simply using leverage to lift heavy weights. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5681006 United States 04/18/2022 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This seems a likely possibility Quoting: 936432979 How the Ancients Cut Stone with Sound - Lost High Technology Explained [link to youtu.be (secure)] How did the Romans make their concrete last so long? Luck. They used/noticed concrete made with volcanic ash lasts longer. The easy answer to the Egyptian issue, is they probably used some kind of air compressors to shoot condensed beams of air to cut the stone. There is a reason why the Nile was central to stone transport and also cutting. They probably made something like a trompe(water powered air compressor). [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Heck, they may of even used some kind of fluid, even water, instead of air. Anyone that worked in a steel plant or with heavy machinery that utilizes high pressured hydraulics or pneumatics know, a single pin prick hole, can create a beam of air or hydraulic fluid capable of cutting a person in half. |
SwampCreature
User ID: 81826970 United States 04/18/2022 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did you watch the video? dude doesnt provide any answers, just says the currently accepted theory that the granite stones were cut by two dudes with copper a handsaw is pretty unlikely. His argument is pretty interesting to me, at the rate the handsaw can do they continued along the same wrong cut for 4 days or so? So what DID they use, who knows, maybe just the handsaw hooked up to a water mill? no idea, but I agree with him that I cant see some skilled craftsman continuing that bad cut in arduous labor for hours upon hours. Again "unknown technology" doesnt need to mean anything far out, could just be a water wheel powered saw or the like. SwampCreature |
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User ID: 78689367 United States 04/18/2022 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When he shows Khufu's solar boat and then starts talking about shipping stones on the Nile, he shows a broken rose granite Ramesses statue in the background. A statue that was 1000 tons and stood 30 feet high. The hieroglyphs on it are immaculate and deep. Luxor (and many other temples) have similar types of immaculate hieroglyphs. These are original works contemporary with the Great Pyramid and created lo0o0ng before there was an Egyptian culture. When the Egyptian culture came, it did it's best to accomplish some restoration work. They also plastered over hieroglyphs and then made paintings, like the copper saw depictions in the video (3:05). Why would the civilization that built the greatest building on this planet (Great Pyramid) and didn't leave any writing, blueprints or hieroglyphs about it make inferior paintings about woodworking??? Two completely different cultures occupying the same space and monuments. Egyptians are simply taking the credit. Jimmy needs to up his game and take it further beyond the copper tools Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 04/18/2022 07:44 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80718887 United States 04/19/2022 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet they developed some type of water pressure system to put stone The cuts always look familiar to cuts I could make with a strong water pressure hose when cleaning drive ways, if I focused an area with a high power nozzle for too long. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50205989 United Kingdom 04/19/2022 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ancient polymer molded concrete. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82896412 There's no secret, but the academy willing to push the alien myth. exactly the geopolymer institute did an excellent explanation of how the stone blocks of the pyramids were cast in situ. wat appears to be a cut in the rock is where a board has been used to shutter the concrete and then later rotted away. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82909933 United States 04/19/2022 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet they developed some type of water pressure system to put stone Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80718887 The cuts always look familiar to cuts I could make with a strong water pressure hose when cleaning drive ways, if I focused an area with a high power nozzle for too long. However it was done, I am of the opinion that it was not the "ancient" egyptians who did it. I belive they may have improved upon the pyramids and other strutures, but those megalithic structures where already there long before the egyptians showed up on the scene. I believe that it was a pre-Deluge civilization which was responsible for the megalithic structures we find in "ancient" egypt and across the world, all of similar construction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82909933 United States 04/19/2022 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did you watch the video? dude doesnt provide any answers, just says the currently accepted theory that the granite stones were cut by two dudes with copper a handsaw is pretty unlikely. His argument is pretty interesting to me, at the rate the handsaw can do they continued along the same wrong cut for 4 days or so? So what DID they use, who knows, maybe just the handsaw hooked up to a water mill? no idea, but I agree with him that I cant see some skilled craftsman continuing that bad cut in arduous labor for hours upon hours. Again "unknown technology" doesnt need to mean anything far out, could just be a water wheel powered saw or the like. |
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User ID: 78689367 United States 04/24/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's have another look, shall we? Is the granite box detailing advanced construction or evidence of Egyptian appropriation? The interesting feature to this Red-rose granite created sarcophagi, is that the 'box' we are led to believe, was discarded from use due to the constructors inexcusable off-cut. It's said that the lid was carved on the bottom of the sarcophagus in one creation only to have the lid cut off after the entire procedure was created. However - are we looking at an advanced cradle created box, where the Egyptians found it and later tried to cut the bottom cradle area off with an inferior cutting method? By examining the base, the visual shows whomever was cutting the bottom area could not cut straight and true. It also shows a V-shaped cut, which happens with a slow cutting motion using similar tools catalogued from the Egyptian era. With the use of a copper saw and an abrasive such as emery corundum, and without a hi-speed cutting system, the material used to do the cutting will often slosh around creating a V splice mostly due to the copper wearing away and the build up of cutting material. Only hi-speed cutting efficiency will cut flat even surfaces, or evenly spaced creviced openings. Is there any logical sense to use the bottom as the lid when you would have to flip the box over after removing the slab, and the so-called sarcophagi made from a solid block of granite likely weighs in excess of over 30 ton ! Are we looking at a Rose granite box originally created with a cradle base, misidentified, reused, and then discarded after an obvious offcut mis-happenstance by the Egyptians? Is this thinking outside the box detailing advanced construction, or robbing the cradle with evidence of Egyptian appropriation? You decide ! https://imgur.com/GnPZZnm |
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Granite Guy
User ID: 77876249 United States 04/24/2022 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did you watch the video? dude doesnt provide any answers, just says the currently accepted theory that the granite stones were cut by two dudes with copper a handsaw is pretty unlikely. His argument is pretty interesting to me, at the rate the handsaw can do they continued along the same wrong cut for 4 days or so? So what DID they use, who knows, maybe just the handsaw hooked up to a water mill? no idea, but I agree with him that I cant see some skilled craftsman continuing that bad cut in arduous labor for hours upon hours. Again "unknown technology" doesnt need to mean anything far out, could just be a water wheel powered saw or the like. Nope. I cut stone for a living. This video is all about folks who know nothing spewing out words in attempt to paint a picture that makes zero sense. My name might give away what I do. I've been in the business for over 20 years and deal with granite from around the world. While I do admire the "theory", it holds no water when a professional reviews the info. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78230975 United States 04/24/2022 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did you watch the video? dude doesnt provide any answers, just says the currently accepted theory that the granite stones were cut by two dudes with copper a handsaw is pretty unlikely. His argument is pretty interesting to me, at the rate the handsaw can do they continued along the same wrong cut for 4 days or so? So what DID they use, who knows, maybe just the handsaw hooked up to a water mill? no idea, but I agree with him that I cant see some skilled craftsman continuing that bad cut in arduous labor for hours upon hours. Again "unknown technology" doesnt need to mean anything far out, could just be a water wheel powered saw or the like. Nope. I cut stone for a living. This video is all about folks who know nothing spewing out words in attempt to paint a picture that makes zero sense. My name might give away what I do. I've been in the business for over 20 years and deal with granite from around the world. While I do admire the "theory", it holds no water when a professional reviews the info. Do you think it was a rope type saw? |