Suffering for enlightenment

To know one, you have to know the other.

Suffering does not enlighten, may wake one up though.

To understand would probably be a better word to use.

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Suffering goes well beyond chemical release in the brain. The whole purpose of our suffering is to force us to emit low-vibrational loosh energy that is harvested by vampiric parasitic beings in the astral.

The reality is, SOULED humans are prisoners within this loosh energy Soul prison farm we reside in.

In this loosh energy Soul prison farm, us Souled humans are subjected to a lifetime of events, experiences, and situations designed to cause us to emit low-vibrational loosh energy that the Controllers of this world and its henchmen harvest for off-world purposes.

Just as we cage and feed cattle and poultry to later be slaughtered for food, so too does the Controllers of this world cage and feed Souled humans and subject us to all manner of suffering to cause us to produce low-vibration loosh energy that is harvested and used off-world.

This low-vibrational loosh energy includes:

Fear
Anxiety
Depression
Stress
Guilt
Pain
Remorse
Desperation
Regret
Loneliness
Pressure
Hatred
Anger
Rejection
Sadness
Loathing
Jealousy
Suffering
…and more.

SOULED humans are subjected to a lifetime of events, experiences, situations, and people that are specifically designed to cause them to experience any combination of the above, ALL of which produce different “flavors” of low-vibrational loosh energy that Souled humans emit when they experience them. That energy is absorbed as “food” by other-worldly beings (just as we raise cattle and poultry for food), but that energy is also harvested and used off-world.

This is the REAL reason Souled beings experience suffering, struggle, and perpetual torment in all forms that I listed above. All of those feelings being experienced by billions of Souled beings on this world (and others) are releasing large volumes of low-vibrational loosh energy that is feeding dimensional beings and is harvested for offworld purposes.

We are no different than the cattle and poultry that we cage and feed. We hold them prisoner to be used as food. In like manner, we Souled humans are in a prison farm, being subjected to all manner of experiences and situations designed to cause us to emit low-vibrational loosh energy that parasitic vampiric dimensional beings are using as “food” and for other off-world purposes.

It’s a horrible truth that causes the Mind to recoil in horror. It is so horrible that people simply refuse to believe it…. which of course only roots them even deeper into this prison.

However, when you see and accept the horrible reality of this Soul prison farm, you will learn to stop permitting yourself to produce loosh energy, and you will no longer willingly and voluntarily accept your imprisonment here, and you will reject religion and New Age teachings in all their forms for the Mind-imprisoning enslavement system those teachings are designed to be.

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What a great post.

For me I’ve always loved the suffering…walk straight into it because it leads to exponential growth.

A lot of suffering resides in the heart…which can then affect the entire body and yes you can nearly shut down. I believe the heart can’t get enough of it because the heart knows it will grow in suffering.

Worst than suffering is being too scared to make changes to your life that are required to realise destiny. Like staying in a job or marriage that result in little or no joy.

The keys are…

You begged to be here on earth
You chose your current situation
You must take responsibility for everything…even if wronged
You must forgive others of everything no matter what

Sure does sound like a Satanic concept to me.

If there is no desire, then there can be no triumph over desire.” - Rumi

Fascinating

I agree that all the above energy must be rejected…they serve no personal purpose

Brilliant

Temporary suffering can lead to permanent appreciation.

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It is fascinating.
Now that I understand this believe system I see it all around- TV, songs... they're telling you to suffer for wisdom.
Like getting a new car, suddenly you see that model everywhere you look.

I do hope to find out how to stop producing the loosh... and vampire those bastards- without being a vampire.

Opus Dei - some of their followers suffer immensely, for Jesus. They say they literally feel God. What's weird though is that their wisdom regrding black popes... evil intentions of the church... is almost non existent. Or is it?

I'm hoping to hear from more people who have willingly suffered for wisdom or intelligence. I still hope there's a way to not see the evil shit. I gave green to all of you for posting. Thank you.

This isn't the explanation you gave at the beginning. Likely because it isn't true.

I feel it every time I run 5 miles without stopping and I feel it for a couple days. My purpose seems so clear and decisions come so easily. I'm going to bump it up to 10 miles.
I want the wisdom without the evil. Maybe I can focus the suffering into a single question?

Yep, just get married like I did.

Suffering doesn't bring enlightenment, suffering is the basic standard human condition, and "enlightenment" is the cure.

That being said, intense hardship can bring a state of letting go, freeing yourself from many of the chains that have bound you all of your life, forcibly. That is not a pleasant way to go about it.

Runner's high is just another kind of drug :D

It is if you're the ones inflicting it.

I've been in horrific pain 20 years...my son 10 years...everyone else close to me betrayed me, even my kids I raised ALONE while in agony years, basically from my sickbed...yes...I've been enlightened...I'm targeted...don't know why...but my son and I have been shown so much it's crazy..I say targeted because it's adversity in continous waves ..for example..the past two weeks a copperhead snake bit me IN MY BED ON MY BUTT.... yesterday my Jeep overheated miles from home...then my son seemed to have remideed it..then the fucking brakes started going out...it was a miracle we made it home... We have evil doing things to us all the time...to the point of being ludicrous...I prayed years ,as a devout Christian, for truth...I fasted too...it came to me starting around eight years ago...I'm not the same person...I'm not a Christian anymore...I look back and see now just how indoctrinated I was...we've been shown so much...through a variety of ways...what I prayed on was the meaning of Jeremiah 33 3....where it said I will show you great mysteries..I just had to know ...boy did I get answers...it's difficult to know so much... people think we are crazy...they fear us...look at us like we are green...knowing the evil that really runs this world is tough while the sheep watch their football and such...it's a curse ...maybe...every day is a struggle just to get dressed...do the basics...we get no disability benefits...

Perceive freshly as you enter
The world of continual emergence.
That rock-bottomed essence of your mind,
Is always still, but ever-emerging;
Always there, as if waiting to be noticed.

- Ji Aoi Isshi

dont get tea bagged when i posturize your failure

Tell that one to initiates who aren't independent contractors.

I do believe it.
I also believe suffering can be achieved through fasting.
I did the thread because I don't know shit.

Example - Indian braves:
Go out in search of food- he must help feed his people.
Do you think a brave is going to come back empty handed?
No, they come back with food, or they don't come back at all.
Let's say he is hunting his balls off, hasn't eaten in 4 days and is still at it... I believe his senses become heightened, his mind sharp as a tack, and his hunger disappears- because he is willfully suffering.
6 days later when his people are beginning to think he is dead, he comes back with a rabbit, turkey and a deer.

Did he "go evil" ? Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe evil is the easy way - for lack of a better term.

You shouldn't tell people what they are thinking or what their intent was... especially when you are wrong. No offense, but I have a feeling you just wanna talk shit this morning, OR, have never lifted weights, ran, or gotten your fat ass off the couch in years. Sorry. I do hope you have a good or bad day, whichever you get your rocks off to.

Not knowing, you feel a need to know, and thus make a thread and enter into the give-and-take of forum conversations, and all of the social energies involved in that, the arguing and back and forths and emotions and whatever.

This "need to know" thus is causing suffering.

In this way, most of what we do is setting the stage for suffering of some sort. Seeds of karma, in other words.

Set the stage for happiness.

The natives also raided each other. It's just good business. My objection is that suffering for any goal ought to be self-directed, and this isn't. But you do you.

Marcus Aurelius
Was
Right...

Wow.
How did you read my mind?
^That is not a rhetorical question.

I believe I'm happier than 95% of all people.
I feel like other humans mostly pretend to be happy.
Personally, I'd rather be dead than live like them.
I am indeed setting the stage for happiness - and it's close, I can feel it. If I'm 100% honest with myself, maybe it's death I feel approaching, but I do not feel any sadness.
I'm 46 years old.

Maybe somebody will be willing to give you good advice.
Your post is beyond my current comprehension.

You are already doing that suffering for enlightenment just in going through this thought process. Make it an internal journey. People often suffer in the good way (meaning they move THROUGH it) when they meditate.

You can not achieve pain without suffering.