Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,350 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 66,542
Pageviews Today: 137,306Threads Today: 70Posts Today: 1,326
03:04 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Need you Advice about PAINT

 
Shadow Dance

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 06:57 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Need you Advice about PAINT
I bought some enamel to paint my woodwork, but it turned out to be "antique white" and I waited too long to return it ... I thought that I could use it, instead on my dinning room walls - but I really wanted to "plaster" them ... to complete my "farmhouse" ambiance and make sure I cover the raised pattern on the wall paper that is up there now

seems that plastering walls is a long forgotten art - and I can't even find it for sale (for wall application), much less in any color - but the tools to apply it are still available

Here's my question - I have "googled" it every way I can, but never got a straight answer ... so I am asking GLP for advice ... because I have a bag of grout that has been sitting in the garage for years now, taking up space - and I thought that if I added some grout to the paint, I might get the "plaster" look on the walls that I was hoping for

it seems that grout and joint compound are very similar products - that can be used on walls (as well as tile) - and other than the buckets they are sold in - seem somewhat interchange able in the answers I received from google

if I could add the grout to the paint, would I be making a product I would be happy with - OR before I attempt this could you tell me if they are even chemically compatible ... I don't want to waste either of them and was hoping someone here knows - or has done this before - I don't want to do this if it will fall off the walls once it dries ... I am using enamel so that I can wash these wall - and to cover some Self adhesive wall paper that I hate ... and don't want the bother to take down because its been up there for decades (before I moved in) and is still in good shape and I'm afraid it will damage the drywall

actually I looked for some self adhesive wall paper that looked like plaster ( it is really the easiest and cheapest way to remodel) - but they don't have the color I want - and will settle for the "antique white" - if I can make it look like plaster because enamel on the walls is only practical in the bathroom - this is hi-gloss enamel so it would really look tacky IMO - but I think it would make a great looking textured wall that would catch the light in an otherwise dark dinning room

what say you wise DIYers of GLP ... before I make a costly time-consuming mistake ?
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:04 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I realize that you have to make at least three post to get this to stay on the first page long enough to get seen ... so here is the first "bump"
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:06 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I already have a dozen "views" but no replys ... I promise that I won't be offended if you think this is a bad idea ... but I have no idea how much grout I should add to get the results I am looking for ... so any help would be appreciated
Larry D. Croc

User ID: 70736097
United States
04/30/2022 07:07 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I have great concerns about applying your concoction to "self adhesive wallpaper". I'm pretty sure that before you know it the weight you add to the wallpaper is going to cause it to delaminate from the wall and you'll have a real mess.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:09 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Is it oil based enamel?
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Larry D. Croc

User ID: 70736097
United States
04/30/2022 07:11 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Is it oil based enamel?
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


Good question.

And to OP, how much paint do you have and how many square feet are you trying to cover?
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:12 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Is it oil based enamel?
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


Good question.

And to OP, how much paint do you have and how many square feet are you trying to cover?
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Grouts are water based...and we all know the 2 don't mix
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:14 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
thank you for that advice ... that is just what I am looking for ... like I said previously, this (plastic) sticky wall covering that is up there, has been up on the walls for well over ten years - and I hesitate to take it off - because the process, considering the age, will probably bring down the dry wall as well ...

got any advice about "self-adhereing wall paper" ... removal?
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:17 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
thank you for that advice ... that is just what I am looking for ... like I said previously, this (plastic) sticky wall covering that is up there, has been up on the walls for well over ten years - and I hesitate to take it off - because the process, considering the age, will probably bring down the dry wall as well ...

got any advice about "self-adhereing wall paper" ... removal?
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


Again....is your paint oil or water based
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:18 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Is it oil based enamel?
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


no it is a Latex enamel and on second look, it is not hi-gloss either but "flat" ... I bought it to paint my wood work, thinking it was WHITE - but it was "old white" which will just not due
watchout101

User ID: 82914535
United States
04/30/2022 07:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
watchout101
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:21 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I would prime the wall first, with oil based primer if you live in a state that sells it, then scrape or sand off what is peeling to get a stable surface.

You don't live near a Lowes?

[link to www.lowes.com (secure)]
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:23 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Is it oil based enamel?
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


Good question.

And to OP, how much paint do you have and how many square feet are you trying to cover?
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


It is a small dining room, only 8x10 with a double sized entry way, a pantry door and a full sized closet door and "half walls" of wooden slats - so I don't think I will need much more than that
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:26 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
 Quoting: watchout101


yes, that is the same impression I got from my "google" search ... but will it stick to the plastic wall covering?

and yes again, since I am only doing half of the walls - a gallon should be enough... especially if I add the grout
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:29 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
 Quoting: watchout101


you can make your own:

BUDGET:
You can achieve a homemade Venetian plaster finish for roughly $6 to $11 per 100 square feet, considering you’ll need $2 to $3 for pre-mixed joint compound, $0.10 to $0.50 for latex colorant, and $4 to $7 for tinted glaze. That’s a bargain compared to the material cost of ready-to-apply cans of synthetic Venetian plaster (which run $18 to $33 per 100 square feet) and authentic lime Venetian plaster (which costs $32 to $84 or more per 100 square feet for materials alone).

[link to www.bobvila.com (secure)]
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:30 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I would prime the wall first, with oil based primer if you live in a state that sells it, then scrape or sand off what is peeling to get a stable surface.

You don't live near a Lowes?

[link to www.lowes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


yes, there are several LOWES stores in Co Sprs ... but when I was searching for plaster, I never saw this option ... I have used the "hammered copper" paint before and was very pleased with its textured look ... but this seems to go on smooth (judging from the pictures) and I want a textured effect.
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:32 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I would prime the wall first, with oil based primer if you live in a state that sells it, then scrape or sand off what is peeling to get a stable surface.

You don't live near a Lowes?

[link to www.lowes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


yes, there are several LOWES stores in Co Sprs ... but when I was searching for plaster, I never saw this option ... I have used the "hammered copper" paint before and was very pleased with its textured look ... but this seems to go on smooth (judging from the pictures) and I want a textured effect.
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


The troweling technique is what gives this the textured finished...unless you're just looking for sand finish.
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Larry D. Croc

User ID: 70736097
United States
04/30/2022 07:32 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
How much paint do you have? Enamel is generally "thicker" paint and doesn't cover as many square feet.

If it were me? I'd be using a heat gun to remove the old wallpaper as a first step.

Next, I'd be putting the paint I bought on either the local Nextdoor site or Craigslist to get rid of it rather than trying to "make it work".

Third, as already suggested I'd use drywall "mud" to create the plastered look I wanted and let it cure a good three/four weeks before painting with a good alkyd (water based, not oil based) primer paint.

Lastly, use the final coat cover I wanted in the first place.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:34 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
thank you for that advice ... that is just what I am looking for ... like I said previously, this (plastic) sticky wall covering that is up there, has been up on the walls for well over ten years - and I hesitate to take it off - because the process, considering the age, will probably bring down the dry wall as well ...

got any advice about "self-adhereing wall paper" ... removal?
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


Your wall paper is most likely a viynl, I would ask the guys at lowes if you use that plaster, if it should be primed first....I would prime.
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:35 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
 Quoting: watchout101


you can make your own:

BUDGET:
You can achieve a homemade Venetian plaster finish for roughly $6 to $11 per 100 square feet, considering you’ll need $2 to $3 for pre-mixed joint compound, $0.10 to $0.50 for latex colorant, and $4 to $7 for tinted glaze. That’s a bargain compared to the material cost of ready-to-apply cans of synthetic Venetian plaster (which run $18 to $33 per 100 square feet) and authentic lime Venetian plaster (which costs $32 to $84 or more per 100 square feet for materials alone).

[link to www.bobvila.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


more great advice - thank you, but my question is, can I use the grout and how much would you suggest ... OR, I do have a pound of "pickling lime" I got for preserving eggs ... would that work HA ... I'm such a penny pincher - "waste not want not" eh
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:42 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
 Quoting: watchout101


you can make your own:

BUDGET:
You can achieve a homemade Venetian plaster finish for roughly $6 to $11 per 100 square feet, considering you’ll need $2 to $3 for pre-mixed joint compound, $0.10 to $0.50 for latex colorant, and $4 to $7 for tinted glaze. That’s a bargain compared to the material cost of ready-to-apply cans of synthetic Venetian plaster (which run $18 to $33 per 100 square feet) and authentic lime Venetian plaster (which costs $32 to $84 or more per 100 square feet for materials alone).

[link to www.bobvila.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


more great advice - thank you, but my question is, can I use the grout and how much would you suggest ... OR, I do have a pound of "pickling lime" I got for preserving eggs ... would that work HA ... I'm such a penny pincher - "waste not want not" eh
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


I wouldn't use grout and paint....grout working time is usually 30-45 minute and it will start to chemically harden not matter how much water you add. It will go on sloppy and won't "trowel" because you have a slick vinyl surface.
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:44 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
How much paint do you have? Enamel is generally "thicker" paint and doesn't cover as many square feet.

If it were me? I'd be using a heat gun to remove the old wallpaper as a first step.

Next, I'd be putting the paint I bought on either the local Nextdoor site or Craigslist to get rid of it rather than trying to "make it work".

Third, as already suggested I'd use drywall "mud" to create the plastered look I wanted and let it cure a good three/four weeks before painting with a good alkyd (water based, not oil based) primer paint.

Lastly, use the final coat cover I wanted in the first place.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Thank you so much for your advice ... but it is beginning to sound like a lot more work than I anticipated - especially if I have to take off the vinyl wall covering first ... which may not even be vinyl considering how old it is ... but it is not coming down anywhere ... it's still in great shape but it is an ivy print that I really really hate ... and thought I could make look like plaster if I added something to the paint ... but you are talking about painting over my "mud" concoction .... I was hoping to put it all on at one time with a trowel .... is that possible in your opinion?
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 07:48 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I found that using sheet rock mud gets the same benefits to a great degree. From texturing to preventing mold growth. It is tuff when spread over sheet rock than sheet rock by itself.
Good luck

By the way a couple of gallons will more than do a 12 X 12 foot room with 9' walls
 Quoting: watchout101


you can make your own:

BUDGET:
You can achieve a homemade Venetian plaster finish for roughly $6 to $11 per 100 square feet, considering you’ll need $2 to $3 for pre-mixed joint compound, $0.10 to $0.50 for latex colorant, and $4 to $7 for tinted glaze. That’s a bargain compared to the material cost of ready-to-apply cans of synthetic Venetian plaster (which run $18 to $33 per 100 square feet) and authentic lime Venetian plaster (which costs $32 to $84 or more per 100 square feet for materials alone).

[link to www.bobvila.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


more great advice - thank you, but my question is, can I use the grout and how much would you suggest ... OR, I do have a pound of "pickling lime" I got for preserving eggs ... would that work HA ... I'm such a penny pincher - "waste not want not" eh
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


I wouldn't use grout and paint....grout working time is usually 30-45 minute and it will start to chemically harden not matter how much water you add. It will go on sloppy and won't "trowel" because you have a slick vinyl surface.
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


now that is the advise I am looking for ... Ok so I won't use the grout - how about a pound of lime in the paint for the plastered look? I know how expensive the real plaster is, and I will settle for just the LOOK ... this is a 20yr old farm house that just needs a face lift.
Larry D. Croc

User ID: 70736097
United States
04/30/2022 07:55 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
How much paint do you have? Enamel is generally "thicker" paint and doesn't cover as many square feet.

If it were me? I'd be using a heat gun to remove the old wallpaper as a first step.

Next, I'd be putting the paint I bought on either the local Nextdoor site or Craigslist to get rid of it rather than trying to "make it work".

Third, as already suggested I'd use drywall "mud" to create the plastered look I wanted and let it cure a good three/four weeks before painting with a good alkyd (water based, not oil based) primer paint.

Lastly, use the final coat cover I wanted in the first place.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Thank you so much for your advice ... but it is beginning to sound like a lot more work than I anticipated - especially if I have to take off the vinyl wall covering first ... which may not even be vinyl considering how old it is ... but it is not coming down anywhere ... it's still in great shape but it is an ivy print that I really really hate ... and thought I could make look like plaster if I added something to the paint ... but you are talking about painting over my "mud" concoction .... I was hoping to put it all on at one time with a trowel .... is that possible in your opinion?
 Quoting: Shadow Dance



I, speaking only for myself, would not be adding the weight to wallpaper. It's presuming the wallpaper won't start slumping.

It also assumes the surface of the wallpaper will allow for a good "grip" with your concoction troweled over it; not a safe assumption in my opinion.

To remove wallpaper on the cheap take a piece of pine, say a foot length of a 1 x 4 pine board you have laying around. Pound brad nails through it until they just barely come through the bottom of the board. Do that with about 30 of the nails (a plastic pack of 100 might cost you a dollar) and you'll now have a "tool" you can use to rough up the surface/break through the very top of the wallpaper without gouging your wall surface.

Apply wallpaper remover solution, which is cheap and can be picked up at lowe's and let it work for half an hour and then with your flat, flexible scraper/putty knife scrape the wallpaper off.

If you're bound and determined to work over the wallpaper you're going to have to give it a good scrub as a first step. It's got x years of cooking grease residue, environmental airborne crud, etc. on it right now, it's not a reliably clean surface.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 07:59 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
...


you can make your own:

BUDGET:
You can achieve a homemade Venetian plaster finish for roughly $6 to $11 per 100 square feet, considering you’ll need $2 to $3 for pre-mixed joint compound, $0.10 to $0.50 for latex colorant, and $4 to $7 for tinted glaze. That’s a bargain compared to the material cost of ready-to-apply cans of synthetic Venetian plaster (which run $18 to $33 per 100 square feet) and authentic lime Venetian plaster (which costs $32 to $84 or more per 100 square feet for materials alone).

[link to www.bobvila.com (secure)]
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


more great advice - thank you, but my question is, can I use the grout and how much would you suggest ... OR, I do have a pound of "pickling lime" I got for preserving eggs ... would that work HA ... I'm such a penny pincher - "waste not want not" eh
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


I wouldn't use grout and paint....grout working time is usually 30-45 minute and it will start to chemically harden not matter how much water you add. It will go on sloppy and won't "trowel" because you have a slick vinyl surface.
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


now that is the advise I am looking for ... Ok so I won't use the grout - how about a pound of lime in the paint for the plastered look? I know how expensive the real plaster is, and I will settle for just the LOOK ... this is a 20yr old farm house that just needs a face lift.
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


that's a better option...but you'll still be antique white...take it back to the hardware store and ask them to add some white colorant, or buy a quart of ultra white and mix together.


From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 08:01 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
How much paint do you have? Enamel is generally "thicker" paint and doesn't cover as many square feet.

If it were me? I'd be using a heat gun to remove the old wallpaper as a first step.

Next, I'd be putting the paint I bought on either the local Nextdoor site or Craigslist to get rid of it rather than trying to "make it work".

Third, as already suggested I'd use drywall "mud" to create the plastered look I wanted and let it cure a good three/four weeks before painting with a good alkyd (water based, not oil based) primer paint.

Lastly, use the final coat cover I wanted in the first place.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Thank you so much for your advice ... but it is beginning to sound like a lot more work than I anticipated - especially if I have to take off the vinyl wall covering first ... which may not even be vinyl considering how old it is ... but it is not coming down anywhere ... it's still in great shape but it is an ivy print that I really really hate ... and thought I could make look like plaster if I added something to the paint ... but you are talking about painting over my "mud" concoction .... I was hoping to put it all on at one time with a trowel .... is that possible in your opinion?
 Quoting: Shadow Dance



I, speaking only for myself, would not be adding the weight to wallpaper. It's presuming the wallpaper won't start slumping.

It also assumes the surface of the wallpaper will allow for a good "grip" with your concoction troweled over it; not a safe assumption in my opinion.

To remove wallpaper on the cheap take a piece of pine, say a foot length of a 1 x 4 pine board you have laying around. Pound brad nails through it until they just barely come through the bottom of the board. Do that with about 30 of the nails (a plastic pack of 100 might cost you a dollar) and you'll now have a "tool" you can use to rough up the surface/break through the very top of the wallpaper without gouging your wall surface.

Apply wallpaper remover solution, which is cheap and can be picked up at lowe's and let it work for half an hour and then with your flat, flexible scraper/putty knife scrape the wallpaper off.

If you're bound and determined to work over the wallpaper you're going to have to give it a good scrub as a first step. It's got x years of cooking grease residue, environmental airborne crud, etc. on it right now, it's not a reliably clean surface.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Excellent options...I would prime after that though because of glue residue.
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 08:11 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
OK, I think that I will take all your advice and try to make some "sample" products ... yes the enamel is very thick paint, and I am going to try the lime - to see if it will work to get the texture I want ... with a trowel - no doubt it will thicken it up - but will it dry right - and stick to the old wall paper? vinyl - (I'm thinking vinyl because it washes easily - but it may have been put up before they had the self adhering backside ... and if it is paper it wouldn't be much different than the surface of the dry wall ...

at least that is my theory ... thanks for all your great advice ... I may end up getting the mud/joint compound - I've worked with that before and found it easy to apply and mix even when it came dry.
WaitTressSandwhich

User ID: 78846383
United States
04/30/2022 08:13 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
OK, I think that I will take all your advice and try to make some "sample" products ... yes the enamel is very thick paint, and I am going to try the lime - to see if it will work to get the texture I want ... with a trowel - no doubt it will thicken it up - but will it dry right - and stick to the old wall paper? vinyl - (I'm thinking vinyl because it washes easily - but it may have been put up before they had the self adhering backside ... and if it is paper it wouldn't be much different than the surface of the dry wall ...

at least that is my theory ... thanks for all your great advice ... I may end up getting the mud/joint compound - I've worked with that before and found it easy to apply and mix even when it came dry.
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


if it is a paper wallpaper there's a good chance it will bubble when applying anything waterbased....good luck...post back on how it goes.
From the author of Blade Runner:

“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.”

Philip K. Dick
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 08:20 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
Ok , I wrote what is above before I refreshed the page, and missed you last reply

seems like there is no way, I can just paint over what is already up there ... I'm ok with the "antique white" it's almost a lite golden color - just not going to use it on my wood work, which looks great in brilliant white - and I thought might look even better in hi gloss this time around... but definitely not piss white LOL -- I can't take it back because I didn't even drag it out of the closet for six months ... got busy putting up a copper colored tin ceiling in the kitchen ... that looks fantastic with my copper sink
Shadow Dance  (OP)

User ID: 59490123
United States
04/30/2022 08:24 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
OK, I think that I will take all your advice and try to make some "sample" products ... yes the enamel is very thick paint, and I am going to try the lime - to see if it will work to get the texture I want ... with a trowel - no doubt it will thicken it up - but will it dry right - and stick to the old wall paper? vinyl - (I'm thinking vinyl because it washes easily - but it may have been put up before they had the self adhering backside ... and if it is paper it wouldn't be much different than the surface of the dry wall ...

at least that is my theory ... thanks for all your great advice ... I may end up getting the mud/joint compound - I've worked with that before and found it easy to apply and mix even when it came dry.
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


if it is a paper wallpaper there's a good chance it will bubble when applying anything waterbased....good luck...post back on how it goes.
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


yes, you've both convinced me that the paper has to come down, and given me several great way to do that without damaging the dry way ... luckily this is the only room in the house with paper ...


yes, I will let you know how it goes ... thanks again, I really appreciate your input - but it is going to take me a while to talk myself into removing that F'n wall paper LOL

and PS ... thanks for the vid on the "lime wash" I wouldn't even know what to look for ... and it was very helpful

thanks for you time ... now back to your regularly scheduled programming ... ain't GLP GREAT!?!!

Last Edited by Shadow Dance on 04/30/2022 08:33 PM
overwatch

User ID: 78531121
United States
04/30/2022 08:37 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Need you Advice about PAINT
I bought some enamel to paint my woodwork, but it turned out to be "antique white" and I waited too long to return it ... I thought that I could use it, instead on my dinning room walls - but I really wanted to "plaster" them ... to complete my "farmhouse" ambiance and make sure I cover the raised pattern on the wall paper that is up there now

seems that plastering walls is a long forgotten art - and I can't even find it for sale (for wall application), much less in any color - but the tools to apply it are still available

Here's my question - I have "googled" it every way I can, but never got a straight answer ... so I am asking GLP for advice ... because I have a bag of grout that has been sitting in the garage for years now, taking up space - and I thought that if I added some grout to the paint, I might get the "plaster" look on the walls that I was hoping for

it seems that grout and joint compound are very similar products - that can be used on walls (as well as tile) - and other than the buckets they are sold in - seem somewhat interchange able in the answers I received from google

if I could add the grout to the paint, would I be making a product I would be happy with - OR before I attempt this could you tell me if they are even chemically compatible ... I don't want to waste either of them and was hoping someone here knows - or has done this before - I don't want to do this if it will fall off the walls once it dries ... I am using enamel so that I can wash these wall - and to cover some Self adhesive wall paper that I hate ... and don't want the bother to take down because its been up there for decades (before I moved in) and is still in good shape and I'm afraid it will damage the drywall

actually I looked for some self adhesive wall paper that looked like plaster ( it is really the easiest and cheapest way to remodel) - but they don't have the color I want - and will settle for the "antique white" - if I can make it look like plaster because enamel on the walls is only practical in the bathroom - this is hi-gloss enamel so it would really look tacky IMO - but I think it would make a great looking textured wall that would catch the light in an otherwise dark dinning room

what say you wise DIYers of GLP ... before I make a costly time-consuming mistake ?
 Quoting: Shadow Dance


Plaster and grout are nothing alike. Grout is Portland cement based, usually with alot of sand. You can still get plaster for walls. You may have to order but it's out there. If you want colored plaster, plaster the wall and paint it once it cures





GLP