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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
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Of course, they want you to take hormones or anti-depressants. They must keep Big Pharma in business.

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Of course, they want you to take hormones or anti-depressants. They must keep Big Pharma in business.

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Antidepressants contain Fluoride. Fluoride poisoning begins with a leaky gut causing systemic inflammation, and can cause the condition known as "Skeletal Fluorosis" that is said to be one of the most painful conditions
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Of course, they want you to take hormones or anti-depressants. They must keep Big Pharma in business.

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Antidepressants contain Fluoride. Fluoride poisoning begins with a leaky gut causing systemic inflammation, and can cause the condition known as "Skeletal Fluorosis" that is said to be one of the most painful conditions
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Wow!! That is scary.
Thank you for sharing this information. hf
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My youngest childhood memories are total anxiety. I am the kid who would cry on Santa's lap. Depression kicked in in high school.

There is a genetic basis to it.

I don't know anything about planning travels as I was mostly too anxious to do it.

I don't take pharmaceuticals but I did when I was so depressed juggling kids and full-time professional work that I was barely functioning but still having to get to a highly stressful job to pay the mortgage. I was lucky I was able to quit my job to stay home with my kids. I wouldn't have made it otherwise.

Maybe the women who don't complain about depression aren't from the same genetic group. Or maybe they take street drugs to cope.

Or maybe the anxiety is from childhood abuse. Naomi said she was a cute kid who was abused.
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Going through Perimenopause was very, very difficult for me personally. However, I refused the anti-depressants because of what I saw happen to my friends.

I had friends on Lexipro, Wellbutrin, Prozac, Zoloft, etc. It truly affected their behavior and literally put them into "the zone".

When you go through this Perimenopausal stage of life, it is imperative to study and research and understand the bodily functions, hormone changes and chemical imbalances that go along with this. Some women go through it with no problems whatsoever and others go through a physical and emotional "hell on earth".

It CAN absolutely be treated with natural supplements such as Magnesium, a healthy diet, walking at a track, having understanding family members, a fun hobby.....AND a desire to understand PERIMENOPAUSE and stages of life. One of the huge changes I made that helped me SO MUCH was eliminating Black Tea leaves (ice tea) from my diet. Herbal teas only. The 2nd biggest help was taking Magnesium supplements.

We ALWAYS NEED to understand ANY medical condition fully before we start medicating it.
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My youngest childhood memories are total anxiety. I am the kid who would cry on Santa's lap. Depression kicked in in high school.

There is a genetic basis to it.

I don't know anything about planning travels as I was mostly too anxious to do it.

I don't take pharmaceuticals but I did when I was so depressed juggling kids and full-time professional work that I was barely functioning but still having to get to a highly stressful job to pay the mortgage. I was lucky I was able to quit my job to stay home with my kids. I wouldn't have made it otherwise.

Maybe the women who don't complain about depression aren't from the same genetic group. Or maybe they take street drugs to cope.

Or maybe the anxiety is from childhood abuse. Naomi said she was a cute kid who was abused.
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I am so sorry that you had to go through that type of anxiety. That had to be difficult and I appreciate your sharing this.

What I have seen from friends and other people I know is the claim of anxiety and depression, but they carry on and continue to spend large sums of money, travel and travel some more. I have one friend with High-Functioning Anxiety and she went out and purchased a $1900 Louis Vuitton purse. She still complains about her anxiety.

Another observation over the years:
Some women literally define themselves as their depression. That's not healthy. We all have struggles and everyone will have good days and bad days, but we can't allow our bad days to define who we are. We are created in the image of God.
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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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I knew the Juan-Star bandit would show up. People today don't exactly enjoy TRUTH.

I think the 2-year Covid lockdowns where people WILLFULLY put on masks, lost their jobs and businesses and allowed corrupt leadership to lead us down the path to Communism proved THIS FACT.

The 1-star doesn't change the fact that we are living in a culture of LIES.
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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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That's interesting. I've also noticed from my friends, that if they claim Depression or are taking anti-depressants, they also claim the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia.

My hairdresser takes enough drugs to choke a horse and gleefully claims Fibromyalgia....but, she's always ready to go to the beach. She just recently bought a Pontoon Boat.
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There are those of us with legitimate issues - more like what Johnny Depp went through- psychotic abusive parents / born when NOT WANTED - and parents on drugs, in jail, in cults, and worst. There are legitimate cases - but it is about resiliancy. Those of us w/legitimate issues know PAIN and have transcended it and thrive anyhow.
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I'm dealing w/it by preparing for the future by growing my own food. I hate cruises and buying $h1t / I'm into recycling and was a good mom. I am happily married also
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There are those of us with legitimate issues - more like what Johnny Depp went through- psychotic abusive parents / born when NOT WANTED - and parents on drugs, in jail, in cults, and worst. There are legitimate cases - but it is about resiliancy. Those of us w/legitimate issues know PAIN and have transcended it and thrive anyhow.
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Thank you!! Yes!!
I wish more people were like you! That is beautiful.
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This is a very interesting article:

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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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That's interesting. I've also noticed from my friends, that if they claim Depression or are taking anti-depressants, they also claim the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia.

My hairdresser takes enough drugs to choke a horse and gleefully claims Fibromyalgia....but, she's always ready to go to the beach. She just recently bought a Pontoon Boat.
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Maybe you have honed in on a group of friends with fibromyalgia talking. Fybromyalgia must be in a class of its own. It sounds like all your friends with fybro are still high functioning if they can travel all the time.

It doesn't sound like major depression.
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I leave that here. Maybe it resonates..

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Thank you so much! This is very interesting.
I'm still reading and will share this. hf
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I'm sure there are legitimate cases of depression and anxiety, but a lot of this stuff reminds me of my brief study of psychology in college where we learned about Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. The idea is, when one need is met, you move on to the next need, so if you don't have access to clean water, for instance, all you can think about it quenching your thirst. Once you have all your basic needs met (water, food, clothing, shelter, transportation, entertainment, etc), you move on to more intangible needs, and mental health is one of those things.

So, basically, the single mother struggling to feed her family doesn't have time for mental illness. The millionaire woman has all the time in the world, so she invents needs to keep herself occupied. Many people "need" sympathy and attention, as well, and claiming mental illness will get them that.

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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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That's interesting. I've also noticed from my friends, that if they claim Depression or are taking anti-depressants, they also claim the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia.

My hairdresser takes enough drugs to choke a horse and gleefully claims Fibromyalgia....but, she's always ready to go to the beach. She just recently bought a Pontoon Boat.
 Quoting: Genesis One


Maybe you have honed in on a group of friends with fibromyalgia talking. Fybromyalgia must be in a class of its own. It sounds like all your friends with fybro are still high functioning if they can travel all the time.

It doesn't sound like major depression.

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And...it kinda reminds me of Naomi Judd. No doubt that she was probably highly medicated. However, I have always been fascinated with anyone who could be almost "bed-ridden depressed" and could still have the energy or even the capacity to do something like sing in front of thousands of people or go on a 2-week cruise to Europe.

I have secretly wondered if some people use "Depression" as a way to get more attention and create a more enchanting story. Of course, Judd's book would endear her to millions and create a sympathy and compassion that results in a very supportive fan base.

If a person is clinically and severely depressed, how are they honestly able to function...at all....anywhere...much less go on tour? I'm just raising a very valid question.
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
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Narcissism/self centeredness is the cause for almost all mental illness. Period

Depression is created over a period of time and caused by a person doing something that they shouldn't be doing, or by them not doing something that they should be doing. Period.

Depression is a feeling, like pain and hunger, which is trying to get you to act, in a manner to make it recede.

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I'm sure there are legitimate cases of depression and anxiety, but a lot of this stuff reminds me of my brief study of psychology in college where we learned about Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. The idea is, when one need is met, you move on to the next need, so if you don't have access to clean water, for instance, all you can think about it quenching your thirst. Once you have all your basic needs met (water, food, clothing, shelter, transportation, entertainment, etc), you move on to more intangible needs, and mental health is one of those things.

So, basically, the single mother struggling to feed her family doesn't have time for mental illness. The millionaire woman has all the time in the world, so she invents needs to keep herself occupied. Many people "need" sympathy and attention, as well, and claiming mental illness will get them that.
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Thank you! We have a bingo!

And...if you're a celebrity, think about all of the books you will sell and the money you will make talking about your "mental illness". Think about how many will flock to your concerts to cheer you on and claim a sisterhood with you.

I have noticed a trend among celebrities in the last 20 years.

The first trend was alcohol/drug addiction and admittance into rehab.

The second trend was the claim of childhood molestation (and yes, this is a huge problem).

The third trend is the confession of mental illness, which has spilled into the middle to upper middle class garden-variety folks on social media.
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4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.
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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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That's interesting. I've also noticed from my friends, that if they claim Depression or are taking anti-depressants, they also claim the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia.

My hairdresser takes enough drugs to choke a horse and gleefully claims Fibromyalgia....but, she's always ready to go to the beach. She just recently bought a Pontoon Boat.
 Quoting: Genesis One


Maybe you have honed in on a group of friends with fibromyalgia talking. Fybromyalgia must be in a class of its own. It sounds like all your friends with fybro are still high functioning if they can travel all the time.

It doesn't sound like major depression.

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And...it kinda reminds me of Naomi Judd. No doubt that she was probably highly medicated. However, I have always been fascinated with anyone who could be almost "bed-ridden depressed" and could still have the energy or even the capacity to do something like sing in front of thousands of people or go on a 2-week cruise to Europe.

I have secretly wondered if some people use "Depression" as a way to get more attention and create a more enchanting story. Of course, Judd's book would endear her to millions and create a sympathy and compassion that results in a very supportive fan base.

If a person is clinically and severely depressed, how are they honestly able to function...at all....anywhere...much less go on tour? I'm just raising a very valid question.
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The antidepressants do allow a lot of people to keep going even if harmful too.

She did say the only time she wasn't anxious was on stage. Which is different than most anxiety ridden people.

She must have loved performing.

I think it's unfortunate that society has placed such a burden on women to both be supermom and be super successful too. It really is unfair.
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
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You appear to be discussing this strictly as these conditions relate to women. I know men who have, or have had fibromyalgia. How does your theory of it being a symptom of perimenopause or menopause fit that? Sure, there is something incorrectly termed “male menopause”, but these are relatively young men in their late twenties and early thirties.

I seem to hear in your post what sufferers heard for years regarding chronic fatigue syndrome, or it’s medical term, myalgic encephalomyelitis: it’s all in your head, there is no such disease, alleged sufferers want attention, and so on. The fact that it is almost certainly caused by a form of brucellosis that was weaponized by the U.S. government in the late 1930s never seems to be mentioned, I wonder why that is?

The line that depression, etc., are well-off white women’s conditions, the same thing that was stereotyped and promoted for decades regarding CFS/ME, comes straight out of Langley and the alphabet agencies who are tasked with keeping the causative factor under wraps: that biowarfare research is not only still ongoing, but has been tested on the populace on an ongoing basis.

Very suspicious.
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crazy fact, 92% of fibromyalgia patients are clinical hypochondriacs.
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If you are on the east coast, fibromyalgia = Lyme Disease. It's rampant and a government created disease. It's also very difficult to accurately diagnose.
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
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Narcissism/self centeredness is the cause for almost all mental illness. Period


Depression is created over a period of time and caused by a person doing something that they shouldn't be doing, or by them not doing something that they should be doing. Period.

Depression is a feeling, like pain and hunger, which is trying to get you to act, in a manner to make it recede.
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That's total bullshit.
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
 Quoting: Genesis One


You appear to be discussing this strictly as these conditions relate to women. I know men who have, or have had fibromyalgia. How does your theory of it being a symptom of perimenopause or menopause fit that? Sure, there is something incorrectly termed “male menopause”, but these are relatively young men in their late twenties and early thirties.

I seem to hear in your post what sufferers heard for years regarding chronic fatigue syndrome, or it’s medical term, myalgic encephalomyelitis: it’s all in your head, there is no such disease, alleged sufferers want attention, and so on. The fact that it is almost certainly caused by a form of brucellosis that was weaponized by the U.S. government in the late 1930s never seems to be mentioned, I wonder why that is?

The line that depression, etc., are well-off white women’s conditions, the same thing that was stereotyped and promoted for decades regarding CFS/ME, comes straight out of Langley and the alphabet agencies who are tasked with keeping the causative factor under wraps: that biowarfare research is not only still ongoing, but has been tested on the populace on an ongoing basis.

Very suspicious.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73026166


Let's look at it like this...

It's actually not suspicious. You and I both know that the medical industry and Big Pharma will create a "diagnosis" to raise their profit margins. Just look at the Covid vaccine fiasco. The projected profits for both Pfizer and Moderna were projected to be $43 billion in 2022.

Doctors will prescribe anti-depressants for anyone, both women and men. It doesn't have to be a legitimate diagnosis for the prescription pad to roll out.

Anti-depressants are VERY, VERY profitable.

And, if an alphabet agency wanted to control a population, what better way than to medicate them, turn off their ability to focus and make them unaware of their surroundings. Why do you think most people went along with the Covid narrative? Try talking to anyone - friend, neighbor, church member, co-worker.... If you did a survey, there's probably an 80% chance that they're medicated with a mind-altering prescription.

By the way, the Covid vaccine is a bioweapon. Just research the number of miscarriages and stillbirths since the roll-out of the vaccine.
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Probably lots of the lower classes of people with depression end up killing themselves or becoming homeless drug addicts and overdose.

And nobody hears from them again.
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There are those of us with legitimate issues - more like what Johnny Depp went through- psychotic abusive parents / born when NOT WANTED - and parents on drugs, in jail, in cults, and worst. There are legitimate cases - but it is about resiliancy. Those of us w/legitimate issues know PAIN and have transcended it and thrive anyhow.
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Yes, absolutely and so glad to hear you were able to rise above.

I have PTSD and severe anxiety but then I also had childhood trauma that was not caused by my family. Three events in my life were, well harrowing and I was fortunate to have lived through them. I did the therapy and drug route until I met someone who guided me toward natural healing, meditation and mindfulness and it changed my life. I also believe there is some merit in ART therapy (not art, art) as well as EMDR, where the brain can be retrained.

Anyway, there are those of us who definitely have legitimate issues but we can and do rise above, as you've demonstrated. hf
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
 Quoting: Genesis One


You appear to be discussing this strictly as these conditions relate to women. I know men who have, or have had fibromyalgia. How does your theory of it being a symptom of perimenopause or menopause fit that? Sure, there is something incorrectly termed “male menopause”, but these are relatively young men in their late twenties and early thirties.

I seem to hear in your post what sufferers heard for years regarding chronic fatigue syndrome, or it’s medical term, myalgic encephalomyelitis: it’s all in your head, there is no such disease, alleged sufferers want attention, and so on. The fact that it is almost certainly caused by a form of brucellosis that was weaponized by the U.S. government in the late 1930s never seems to be mentioned, I wonder why that is?

The line that depression, etc., are well-off white women’s conditions, the same thing that was stereotyped and promoted for decades regarding CFS/ME, comes straight out of Langley and the alphabet agencies who are tasked with keeping the causative factor under wraps: that biowarfare research is not only still ongoing, but has been tested on the populace on an ongoing basis.

Very suspicious.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73026166


Let's look at it like this...

It's actually not suspicious. You and I both know that the medical industry and Big Pharma will create a "diagnosis" to raise their profit margins. Just look at the Covid vaccine fiasco. The projected profits for both Pfizer and Moderna were projected to be $43 billion in 2022.

Doctors will prescribe anti-depressants for anyone, both women and men. It doesn't have to be a legitimate diagnosis for the prescription pad to roll out.

Anti-depressants are VERY, VERY profitable.

And, if an alphabet agency wanted to control a population, what better way than to medicate them, turn off their ability to focus and make them unaware of their surroundings. Why do you think most people went along with the Covid narrative? Try talking to anyone - friend, neighbor, church member, co-worker.... If you did a survey, there's probably an 80% chance that they're medicated with a mind-altering prescription.

By the way, the Covid vaccine is a bioweapon. Just research the number of miscarriages and stillbirths since the roll-out of the vaccine.
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Yup, depression, anxiety, PTSD, fibro, etc. are all big business. I have yet to meet a doc who doesn't immediately pull out that Rx pad for something.
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Okay...this post is not intended to offended the masses or claim that mental issues are not real. However, there are a few things that I have noticed over my lifetime about women especially who constantly talk about their Depression, High-functioning Anxiety, or Fibromyalgia, etc.

Some things came to my mind, especially after reading the Naomi Judd story and her claim of depression.

Again, these are my personal observations through talking to people, reading things they say, and just being around them in general. I will list these with bullet points.

1. Most of the women that I know who claim depression are either White (Caucasian), very wealthy (millionaire or multi-millionaire), or middle to upper middle class. Most of them have plenty, live in nice subdivisions and travel. They have opportunities that others only dream of. Most have a college education and/or a successful career. They have health insurance and access to the best medical care.

2. Because we live in the rural South, we are around a lot of Black women. I have NEVER heard a Black woman say that she is depressed. She may say that she is having a difficult time or may talk about her problems and struggles; BUT, she almost always talks about "trusting in the Lord", going to church and having faith. The white woman will give you her list of anti-depressants.

3. I have NEVER talked to a poor woman (White or Black), or a woman of limited means who struggles in a low-paying job, and heard her say that she is depressed. NEVER. Again, they may talk about their struggles. However, they are so busy working trying to support themselves and their children, that they don't have time to focus on depression. They're trying to survive. Most of them work two jobs.

4. I personally believe (based upon observations) that the diagnosis of High-functioning Anxiety is just another term that the medical community has developed to paper over the stress and worries of those who have plenty. However, this particular brand of anxiety has been turned into a cottage industry, just like Fibromyalgia.

I believe that Fibromyalgia is a cover diagnosis for perimenopause and menopause. However, you can't prescribe drugs for perimenopause, but you can prescribe drugs for Fibromyalgia. I learned a lot of this through my own personal research. The symptoms of both are basically identical and are better treated with natural cures and supplements, basic exercise, a fun hobby and a positive outlook. That's how I got through my perimenopause. Once I researched and learned what my body was going through, I began to take action. I refused any offers of anti-depressants from my GYN. I took the natural route of supplements, drank a LOT of water, exercised, took up a hobby and prayed. It took a long time to get through perimenopause, but I finally got through it.

I have a friend who loves to claim depression and physical pain. She claims that she can't do much around the house, but turned around and planned a cross-country driving trip with her husband. Then, she turned around and planned about 4 cruises over the course of a year. Next, she had 2 trips to Disney planned. BUT.....she claims that she is depressed. (By the way, she is living the retired life and has plenty).

So...I always find it interesting when celebrities, the wealthy and the middle class - upper middle class walk around in a cloud of depression, consuming a toxic stew of drugs that will eventually cause more problems. They claim depression, but still continue to do ANYTHING they want to do, especially if it involves travel, shopping or concerts. I see this CONSTANTLY on Facebook. It creates duplicity and actuallly doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

By the way, many of the anti-depressant drugs on the market today actually make people suicidal. It's a vicious cycle.
 Quoting: Genesis One


You appear to be discussing this strictly as these conditions relate to women. I know men who have, or have had fibromyalgia. How does your theory of it being a symptom of perimenopause or menopause fit that? Sure, there is something incorrectly termed “male menopause”, but these are relatively young men in their late twenties and early thirties.

I seem to hear in your post what sufferers heard for years regarding chronic fatigue syndrome, or it’s medical term, myalgic encephalomyelitis: it’s all in your head, there is no such disease, alleged sufferers want attention, and so on. The fact that it is almost certainly caused by a form of brucellosis that was weaponized by the U.S. government in the late 1930s never seems to be mentioned, I wonder why that is?

The line that depression, etc., are well-off white women’s conditions, the same thing that was stereotyped and promoted for decades regarding CFS/ME, comes straight out of Langley and the alphabet agencies who are tasked with keeping the causative factor under wraps: that biowarfare research is not only still ongoing, but has been tested on the populace on an ongoing basis.

Very suspicious.
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Tell me more about the case about chronic fatigue please





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