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Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married

 
Mustydog

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05/04/2022 01:27 PM

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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Why OP?

Most men don't want unplanned pregnancies.
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05/04/2022 02:00 PM
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Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


If you plant a seed in it, you are mutually responsible for what happens to it.

If it were not so, there wouldn't be such a thing as child support.
 Quoting: Osmium76


A women is responsible for HER body. Otherwise, men would have free access to it.

Child support is simply a way of government turning men into wage slaves for them. Women are pandered to, and men don't even have decent contraception available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83048158


If a man and a woman conceive a child together, they are both responsible for that happening. You can't have a baby without the man supplying the seed. The egg doesn't fertilize itself.

They both must consent for it to happen; Sex is typically a mutually agreed upon occurrence. (aside from instances of rape that is).

You know this is true. Why argue with it?
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05/04/2022 02:02 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


Men have a responsibility when they have sex with a fertile woman. It’s on both of them.
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Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


Great. So men should NEVER ask for sex, EVER.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Make sure he uses protection and is ready for a baby in case it fails. Sex is not a play toy even though people have made it that way. It was meant for married couples.
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05/04/2022 02:07 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
75% of men who get Vasectomies end up developing an autoimmune disease.

no thanx..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82179201


And women who get their tubes tied usually end up with a hysterectomy later on because of it. Heavy periods also happen. So much the woman becomes anemic.
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05/04/2022 02:10 PM
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I almost wish there was IQ test people had to pass before being allowed on the internet.

But no. That's what condoms and birth control are for, and like 99% of the time they work. If people actually use them. They are available. Both people are responsible for the risk.

You should only ever have mandatory surgery if your life is immediately in danger and you're flying through the emergency room. Compulsory vasectomies is wrong on so so many levels.

I'm sure the government would love it, basically be sterilizing the entire population, but it violates everyone's basic living rights and puts us all at serious medical risk. You don't just snap and reverse it.
 Quoting: Rubysage


Birth control alters hormones responsible for mate selection.


The pill changes human pheromones, odors which are subconsciously detected. These pheromones cause humans to change what they find attractive in a mate. Choosing a mate while on the pill can result in unstable and more violent unions


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

No such problem with vasectomy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71981634


I have know three men who have had vasectomies. One for 8 years. One for 25 years. And one for over 30. All healthy. A woman getting her tubes tied is more dangerous. Many complications can happen.
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05/04/2022 02:13 PM
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Who owns the uterus? Women.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens TO the uterus? Women.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens INSIDE the uterus? Well, last I knew, it takes both a man and a woman to create life. Women can't do that on their own yet, so you're still relevant.
 Quoting: Dirck de Noorman


Yes, it takes 2 to tango, but women have around 14 forms of birth control and the morning after pill.

They can't be bothered with being responsible about their sex life?

Men have 2, condoms and vasectomy. Condoms are the absolute least effective form and vasectomies aren't always reversible and are known to cause real bad health problems like auto-immune diseases that lead to death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440




The pill changes human pheromones, odors which are subconsciously detected. These pheromones cause humans to change what they find attractive in a mate. Choosing a mate while on the pill can result in unstable and more violent unions


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71981634


So perhaps try the sponge, or IUD, or spermicidal foam, tubes tied, etc..

Women have more than just the pill you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


The sponge isn’t made anymore. IUDs are dangerous. No on tube tying. And foams are ok if you aren’t allergic to them. Always use condoms.
Jmoore

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05/04/2022 02:13 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Here is an idea. How bout we just give people the freedom to choose.

Instead of giving tax money for women to murder children we should instead give tax money so that young men can get vasectomies if they want.

Shit even offer a 500 bonus to young men that get vasectomies and then offer tax money to reverse it later in life if they are married.
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05/04/2022 02:14 PM
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It's called ABSTINENCE. It's what should be taught and what increases a persons quaility of life.

Nobody teaches ABSTINENCE as the best form of birth control. How about you just don't fuck?
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And make teens have chaperones. That’s the way it use to be done. They didn’t let the kids run wild. Especially the girls.
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05/04/2022 02:19 PM
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Here is an idea. How bout we just give people the freedom to choose.

Instead of giving tax money for women to murder children we should instead give tax money so that young men can get vasectomies if they want.

Shit even offer a 500 bonus to young men that get vasectomies and then offer tax money to reverse it later in life if they are married.
 Quoting: Jmoore


Free birth control would help. Tax dollars used wisely.
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05/04/2022 02:24 PM

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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
It can be reversed when married
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71423069


It's unhealthy and creates autoimmune disorders.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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05/04/2022 02:47 PM
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You're a woman, or very low testosterone male, aren't you?

Asking a person to do something that their biology makes incredibly difficult will not only fail, but is actually cruel. Most men have sex drives that are, at a minimum, three times higher and more intense than women have.

Abstinence always fails for those people. Not because they are bad, but because you, and low drive people like you, are sort of being evil.

Would you require a person not breath, simply because you have tiny lungs? No, that would be insane.

Would you insist that an athlete, who needs three times the calories you do, subside on an insufficient amount, because you can't imagine anyone else wanting to eat that much and take offense to it?

No, the problem would be yours to deal with.

The same is true here.

Prudes and low-sex creepers should not have a say in normal peoples bodily functions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82375160



Are you saying men are naturally unfaithful in marriage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71981634


No, I didn't comment on that in the text above. Reading comprehension friend! :)

Now, if we want to go there, both men and women, over all, are unfaithful in relationships. As in, when we finally get a full, honest accounting, we will find that about 70% of both men and women betray their partner that way.

The biggest single indicators that your partner will cheat isn't sex, or even sex drive (though, yeah, high sex drive does mean more likely to cheat for men or women. Compared to their own sex only.) No, the biggest indicators that your spouse will be unfaithful are:

1. Drinking alcohol in public or large group spaces without their spouse.

Going to the bar or club for a business meeting while away, or a "girls night" Yeah... That's not a great sign.

2. Being around the opposite sex frequently on a daily basis.

Women particularly tend to cheat from the workplace. Not that men don't but when they cheat, it tends to not be where it will threaten their economic prospects.

Far and away, the biggest indicator is drinking alcohol in public, however. If you have a spouse with a high sex drive, but who doesn't drink, they are far less likely to stray.

*There ARE people, even high sex drive ones, who don't cheat. Men are no more likely to cheat than women are. They are a little less likely to lie about it however, so the stats seems to be indicating that men cheat more. That probably isn't true at all.

Men can get sex if they can make it happen. Being nearly perfect and on top of their game.

Women can get sex by asking for it.

So, one of those groups is going to have a much easier time being unfaithful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82375160



You are saying to deny a man his sexual drive is cruelty but what if you are in a marriage and the woman through health no longer wants sex?

Are you saying divorce is the answer or unfaithfulness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71981634


Neither. I'm not suggesting remedies at all. That decision would have to be made between those partners, and it isn't my place to even suggest one thing will work better than the other.

It is however, very rare. That a high sex drive man is stuck with a woman who uses sexual relations for power and control is by far more likely.

In such a case, then dissolving the broken relationship is the best plan.

In case of illness, though? I wouldn't even want to suggest an idea that might be the wrong one to anyone.
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05/04/2022 02:53 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
"You are saying to deny a man his sexual drive is cruelty"

Just to clarify:

It is cruel and inhumane to deny anyone the exercise of a natural function, simply because you do not have as much of that given desire.

Not just men, but women, should be allowed to breathe, eat, consume water, sleep and even have sex, on their own schedule WITHOUT BEING VILIFIED for it.

That way that was stated seems a bit like you are suggesting that I'm requiring women to put out. Nope. If a woman doesn't want to have sex, that is her right.

But a man isn't a "pervert" because he enjoys sex. Neither is a woman.

I just wanted to put this out there, so no one gets confused later.

It is the blame and vilification that is the cruelty. No one owes another person sexual gratification, or to see to their other needs, outside of specific arrangements to that end. (Parents have to feed their kids and keep them clean... Things like that.)
Dirck de Noorman

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05/04/2022 03:16 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


Who owns the uterus? Women.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens TO the uterus? Women.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens INSIDE the uterus? Well, last I knew, it takes both a man and a woman to create life. Women can't do that on their own yet, so you're still relevant.
 Quoting: Dirck de Noorman


Yes, it takes 2 to tango, but women have around 14 forms of birth control and the morning after pill.

They can't be bothered with being responsible about their sex life?

Men have 2, condoms and vasectomy. Condoms are the absolute least effective form and vasectomies aren't always reversible and are known to cause real bad health problems like auto-immune diseases that lead to death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


You can't be bothered to inquire and verify that the places in which you shove your tiny little pecker are protected?

If you don't bother to inquire, why do you believe that your opinion should matter later?
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05/04/2022 03:26 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
compulsory lobotomies for idiots like OP
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05/04/2022 03:28 PM

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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
75% of men who get Vasectomies end up developing an autoimmune disease.

no thanx..
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Thanks for the info. My gut always told me NO WAY!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83048158


Don’t do it. I have chronic pain which makes sects like getting a fork in the groin. Also lost ‘Ol Lefty to cancer after the vas. Just don’t fucking do it.

OK, one more time, don’t do it!
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
As the only real physician I recommend full castration
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


Great. So men should NEVER ask for sex, EVER.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Yes rape only. Put some in rape camps like in North Korea. Great idea, fucktard
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Who owns the uterus? Not men.

Who is ultimately responsible for what happens to the uterus? Not men.

Sick of immature women placing blame on men. Grow up.

Your uterus is YOUR responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668440


Great. So men should NEVER ask for sex, EVER.
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Are you saying that women can't say no?
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
It can be reversed when married
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05/04/2022 04:31 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
It can be reversed when married
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71423069


Or they keep it zipped like I did until I was married.
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05/04/2022 04:34 PM
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Re: Compulsory Vasectomies until a man is married
Men have no say whether the woman decides to keep the baby or abort, but lets punish men making them go through a medical procedure. wtf?

Yeah that sounds fair.

And compulsory(forced), not even by choice.

Aren't you a sweethart?

So women want the right to choose but not for men.





GLP