A question for Pro Abortionists on "My Body, my choice" - What about the baby's body? What about the baby's human rights?

Kinda like asking white men to vote on reparations for blacks LMAO

Abortion isn't really a topic that I give the time of day, but even I know they simply see them as piles of flesh, nothing more, nothing less.

Just goto reddit and see the mental gymnastics pro-abortionists use to justify their views.

Look the thing is: things die! they die all the time often in gruesome ways, huge no's of pregnancies miscarry, God doesn't care, he doesn't get involved it's just stuff that happens. Life get's recycled, beings pop in and out of incarnation all the time.

I get it that as a woman you don't want to be held hostage to biology with an unwanted pregnancy - and you don't want religious people who as far as you are concerned are believers in a bronze age sky god figment of their imagination to lay down what you can and can't do.


Having said that at a certain stage in pregnancy it is a baby, a human being and it is just not right to cut it out and kill it - if you don't want it then there are plenty of people who would.

Then again if it born with congenital defects that would make it's life something that you would never choose for yourself in a million yrs - I don't see anything wrong with killing it - it's no big deal, something went wrong, it didn't work out, send it back again for another try.

Or if it’s a woman. Baby’s body baby’s choice if it’s a female? They’re such idiots, no coherent arguments, it’s only about population control for them, nothing else.

The Bible says NOTHING of that sort.

The Bible says 'before I formed thee in the womb, I knew thee'.

That proves God knows and considers each of us a real person even BEFORE conception.


Take your BS down the road, euro-tard.
Soon you will become Putin's bitch.

I am completely against it.

The 'my body my choice' principle is great and I agree with it. Each individual should have body autonomy. The baby in the womb though? No autonomy for them? No rights for them?

Last Edited by A Ghost From Another Time on 05/06/2022 02:38 AM

Is the issue of abortion exploited and manipulated?

Of course it is, some people indeed do that.

To say that everyone on tbe pro life side does that is asinine.

There are many sincere pro lifers who care equally about all of the other issues mentioned.

Yes there are many fake Christians but it is unfair and untrue to paint us all the same way.

Didn't you get the memo?

Women aren't INTERESTED in anyone's rights but their own. They aren't interested in the rights of other people, including other women, certainly men, and definitely not someone totally unable to defend themselves from these psychotic kunts, like a baby.

There as many fake Christians as there are fake "progressives".

But there are many who are sincere and do care.

It is a human life whether it 7 weeks or 8 months. It should be protected and given a chance at life just like you were given.

The baby must be recognized as a human being with human rights. We treat everyone the same way, even child molesters and ISIS terrorists. Their human rights are respected and they are treated as individuals. Why can't we extend the same courtesy to babies? They are the most defenseless and vulnerable humans who have no voice.

WANT TO END A CONVO WITH AN ABORTIONIST DUMB FUCK IN A SECOND?

ASK THEM THIS QUESTION: HOW WOULD YOU HAVE LIKED TO BE ABORTED FOR CONVENIENCE?

Don't they find it hypocritical to advocate for body autonomy for themselves but not for the innocent baby in the womb?

At least he didn't compare it to feces (yes, had a an extreme abortionist say abortion was like a bowel movement and the fetus was like feces)

White men would vote no for reparations for blacks?

I think it has more to do with politics rather than being white, as far as how that vote would go.

Abortion though is a good question. How would women vote?

Would most vote in favor of it? How would most men vote?

I suspect that a lot of the pro abortion side deep down knows that it is a human life, that it is wrong to kill it. But I suspect they just cannot come to grips with it so they deny it and try to dehumanize with all the "piles of flesh" type of comments. Why else do they fight so hard on the point that it is not a baby, that it is not a human?

It’s amazing how people just LOVE to generalize opinions in areas of life that can’t be generalized. Abortion is such a complex subject, and yet here you are, distilling it to a yes or no question. Such a waste of consciousness…

As a friend once said: if you ask me “Would you hit an old lady?”, I would scream “No!”, but if an old lady was pointing a gun to my loved ones, I would gladly beat the sh*t out of her.

Human experience is not a yes or no question, it’s not black or white — it’s never either black, or white — it’s always a shade of gray. And there are valid arguments both in pro-life and pro-choice groups. Heck, there’s even a train of thought that states that having an offspring is the ultimate ego-trip — you love yourself so much, that you want a copy of that. This can be as true, as the experience of a pregnant victim of sexual assault.

Basically, what I’m saying is that everyone should mind their own fucking business and not try to intervene in other people’s lives. And for people gathering on a website that propagates extreme doubt in systems, controls and regulations, some of you sure are hellbent on trying to do exactly the same to others.

What did you really say with all those words?

I consulted with nature and was informed male dogs sometimes fuck each other in the ass. According to nature, I, too, must fuck other males in the ass. Because nature. Nature also kills mercilessly, therefore I must follow nature's lead and do the same. Nature doesn't give a fuck, therefore I shouldn't give a fuck. Nature is god, THE guide. Whatever nature does is what I should do. Because it's natural.

If I test the DNA of the fetus , does it have the DNA of a tapeworm?
No?
Its it HUMAN DNA? Yes? Then it is a human being.

You are comparing unlike things in a false analogy.
Only dumb people use fallacy to try to win an argument

Imagine trying to discuss abortion with a screeching blue haired liberal instead of crushing their face with your boot.

So if I go an murder someone else, its just not your business?
What if you are next on my list?
Does a society have a duty to protect innocent people and deter the violation of their rights?

Does the fetus have a life? Isn't killing that fetus interfering with the fetus' life?
Does the Father have a life as well? Isn't killing his child interfering with his life?

You are right this is a very complex subject ( a conflict of rights) without a yes or no answer - but that also means "minding your own business" is also a far too simplistic way of looking at it.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 05/07/2022 08:36 AM

Adults sometimes get diseases and die.
Its Natural

Does that mean that a person who dies of cancer is the same as one who is brutally murdered, or do you think there might be some sort of distinction there?

A fetus has its own unique DNA. I can test it and it will come back as "human being" by any scientific definition ( and I note you don't offer a different one other than suggesting that this occurs at some other point -- without defining what that point is or why) .

so say you contract cancer and die.
say in another scenario I come to your house and kill you.

Same thing?

No?

This is a conflict of rights. Rights end where the rights of others begin. Civilized people negotiate in such a situation and decide where that "certain point" it will be protected by law is. But Murder is Murder, and will still be murder even if allowed by law.


It is a human being from conception.
A deliberate act to kill a human being is murder

Why don't men have rights to the baby they helped create?

They sure are 'given rights' to pay child support if the mother has it.

What if a man doesn't want his child killed?

A fetus does not have bodily autonomy.

Do you know how a fetus works or the definition of autonomy?

The living being, the human being that you reduce to calling just a "fetus" is an individual and should be given the same human rights all other human beings are given.

Child molesters? No problem. ISIS Jihadists? No problem. MS13 gang members? No problem. Give them all due process, 3 meals a day, showers, exercise time, leisure time, books, movie nights, red cross care packages. No summary executions or cruel or unusual punishments.

And I don't have a problem with that, I accept it (as much as I might dislike the idea of giving them comfort and safety).

Because we live in a civilized society where we are supposed to respect the rule of law and you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

But we can't do the same for the most innocent, the most vulnerable and defenseless humans - the baby in the womb.

So the question for you is - do you think a baby with a beating heart, as early as 6 weeks, is it not a human?

Is it hard to admit that because then you'd have to admit you're killing a human life and giving it no chance, no say in the matter?

Why not just admit it? Why not just come out and say it?

"Yes, its a human life and I still think we can just decide to kill it."

Why is that so hard to admit? You'd get more respect by just coming out and saying it. At least you'd be transparent and honest about it.

Last Edited by A Ghost From Another Time on 05/07/2022 09:05 AM

Paedophiles don't believe children have rights.

At 6 weeks the fetus has a beating heart. Is it not alive? Is it not a human?

Should it be denied the chance to live a long life? Should it be killed with no say in the matter?

What fairness is there in that? Who is anyone else to decide to end it's life?

It is a human being and it has rights. If you deny that, you're being dishonest and unfair. Human rights mean nothing if you won't stand up for the most innocent and vulnerable of humans.

It's not a baby until it's born into this world.

Birth is a process.

Until then it's a fetus.

How much farther down the line of the biological cycle shall we go?

Why not give spermatozoa and ovum rights too?

At 6 weeks, it has a heartbeat. A beating heart. It is a living being. What kind of being? Human.

Should this human being be denied the same human rights we give to Child molesters, ISIS Jihadists and MS13 gang members?