Jesus is not the son of God because Jesus is God, please discuss

Jesus is a small portion of God brought forth from God, in existence from the beginning.

He returned to God and shares His throne.

Oh yes he is and did it say the only one?, for Son of God mean Archangel and Lord.

As Children of God is another metaphor words for Angels as well as Star.

Same with Morning Star for Archangel, and Bright Morning Star for Lord.

Enoch the Lord God and Holy One of Israel, blessed be He! only begotten son was John the Baptist.

So den, who should be mad as hell here?..

"God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, "Thou [Elijah] art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." [said Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] - Acts 13:33



"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords [souls] from us.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the Lord [Enoch] hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Thou [Lord Jesus] shalt break them with a rod of iron [as the great Anti-Christ]; thou [Elijah the prophet] shalt dash them [soulless beasts of the earth] in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve [Jesus] the Lord with fear [respect], and rejoice with [earthshaking] trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." - Psalm 2:1-12

Your anger is seated deep - because deep down you dont want to believe in fairy tales .. So when someone comes along with a needle sharp enough to pop your bubble - it angers and frightens you. But the savior your waiting for is not the Santa / Satan Claus - mighty man in the sky / north who knows all (even when your sleeping) IT is in fact - the One holding the needle.

But because of your state sponsored eternal slumber you will resist the one who can truly save you - and continue to hold dear the fairy tale god who will never cross your path!

Putin is not the son of putin because putin is putin, please discuss

Read the Cabala.Story is there.

Yup. A bunch of self appointed experts on something that is, to this day, totally unproven.

This discussion started the first schism in the church. Way before Luther called them out on stealing indulgences from believers and the church split into many, many different versions. And then started making their own wars.

Great cult. "My god loves all, unless you are not of my faith, and then I must persecute you." And we, the popes and bishops shall live like kings while you the peasants starve and build giant cathedrals to stroke our egos here on earth.

If the church cared about the people, they'd hawk thier jewels and treasures to help feed the needy instead of the other way around.

And, they would accept birth control as it is obvious our over-population is strangling this planet. But that does not help to grow the cult now, does it?

Its not my opinion, its the truth in up there in Heaven.

If only people would know the real Jesus from personal experience and not from a book...

It's important you stick to the Latin: Deum Filium JESUM Christum so [link to www.ourladyisgod.com]

The Infinite Reach tells you all you need to know. Ask me a Q

When you except Christ as your Savior you become a "Son of God"

The unsaved are "sons of men"

God manifested himself in the flesh as Jesus Christ.

Without knowing Truth anybody makes mistakes.
Jesus was Avatar (or expansion) of Zs07 (the Owner/God of the Earth) from Olympus of s-gods; see the List of Cosmos inhabitants is at the link (pdf file 79Kb, 1 pg in English): [link to disk.yandex.ru (secure)]
The second incarnation of the Jesus' soul happened almost 60 years ago and again in a male body. The promised by Jesus Spirit of Truth is preparing straight pass for the Second Appearance of the divine soul.

All things were created THROUGH HIM.

Get owned antichrist.

Come and sing with me among the company of myriad angels thundering wonderfully!.

Surely cannot be the only one!.

Furthermore, since we also have so great a cloud of witnesses over us, let us set aside every burden and sin which may surround us, and advance, through patience, to the struggle offered to us.

Let us gaze upon Jesus, as the Author and the completion of our faith, who, having joy laid out before him, endured the cross, disregarding the shame, and who now sits at the right hand of the throne of God.

So then, meditate upon him who endured such adversity from sinners against himself, so that you may not become weary, failing in your souls.

For you have not yet resisted unto blood, while striving against sin.

And you have forgotten the consolation which speaks to you like sons, saying: “My son, do not be willing to neglect the discipline of the Lord. Neither should you become weary, while being rebuked by him.”

For whomever the Lord loves, he chastises. And every son whom he accepts, he scourges.

Persevere in discipline. God presents you to himself as sons. But what son is there, whom his father does not correct?

But if you are without that discipline in which all have become sharers, then you are of adultery, and you are not sons.

Then, too, we have certainly had the fathers of our flesh as instructors, and we reverenced them. Should we not obey the Father of spirits all the more, and so live?

And indeed, for a few days and according to their own wishes, they instructed us. But he does so to our benefit, so that we may receive his sanctification.

Now every discipline, in the present time, does not seem a gladness, of course, but a grief. But afterwards, it will repay a most peaceful fruit of justice to those who become trained in it.

Because of this, lift up your lazy hands and your lax knees,

and straighten the path of your feet, so that no one, being lame, may wander astray, but instead may be healed.

Pursue peace with everyone. Pursue sanctity, without which no one shall see God.

Be contemplative, lest anyone lack the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness spring up and impede you, and by it, many might be defiled,

lest any fornicator or worldly person be like Esau, who, for the sake of one meal, sold his birthright.

For you know that afterwards, when he desired to inherit the benediction, he was rejected. For he found no place for repentance, even though he had sought it with tears.

But you have not drawn near to a tangible mountain, or a burning fire, or a whirlwind, or a mist, or a storm,

or the sound of a trumpet, or a voice of words. Those who had experienced these things excused themselves, lest the Word be spoken to them.

For they could not bear what was said, and so, if even a beast would have touched the mountain, it would have been stoned.

And what was seen was so terrible that even Moses said: “I am terrified, and so, I tremble.”

But you have drawn near to mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to the company of many thousands of Angels,

and to the Church of the first-born, those who have been inscribed in the heavens, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the just made perfect,

and to Jesus, the Mediator of the New Testament, and to a sprinkling of blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

Be careful not to reject the One who is speaking. For if those who rejected him who was speaking upon the earth were not able to escape, so much more we who might turn away from the One who is speaking to us from heaven.

Then, his voice moved the earth. But now, he makes a promise, saying: “There is still one more time, and then I will move, not only the earth, but also heaven itself.”

And so, in saying, “There is still one more time,” he declares the transfer of the moveable things of creation, so that those things which are immoveable may remain.

Thus, in receiving an immoveable kingdom, we have grace. So, through grace, let us be of service, by pleasing God with fear and reverence.

For our God is a consuming fire. - Hebr@ws 12:29 Vulgate

AND THEY CALLED HIS NAME IMMANUEL --- I AM SANANDA


By Sananda & Judas Iscarioth
199 Pages (116)

The story of the life of the one commonly known as Jesus of Nazareth as told by Jesus and the disciple Judas Iscarioth. Absolute clarification of the numerous falsifications, misrepresentations, lies and misconceptions concerning that time period and Jesus' teachings are presented.

A document was discovered in 1963 by a Greek Catholic Priest who had become a "contact" for the Cosmic Messengers who led him to this "lost" scroll. This Priest was persecuted and finally was killed, but not before he translated part of it and gave it to another man, Billy Meier from Switzerland, who would also become a contact. This document represents the true story of the life of the one commonly known as "Jesus of Nazareth". It is told by Jesus AND his disciple Judas Iscarioth who was also his scribe. For the first time in history Judas Iscarioth's name is cleared because he was NOT the one who "betrayed" Jesus. Absolute clarification of the numerous falsifications, misrepresentations and history 2000 years ago is given. Some of the many questions answered are:

* How was Christ conceived and why Mary was chosen?
* What was His true name at birth (Immanuel) and why was it changed to "Jesus" which means "The Anointed"?
* Who were the actual "teachers" of Immanuel?
* Who is GOD and what is THE CREATION above God?
* What are the true Laws of God and The Creation?
* What did Immanuel teach about Personal Responsibility?
* Who actually "betrayed" Immanuel and why was Judas Iscarioth blamed?
* What is the true purpose of Baptism?
* What was the purpose and meaning of Immanuel's Crucifixion and the Resurrection?
* What became of Immanuel after His Resurrection?
* What is the "Curse of Israel" and why is there a curse?
* What is Immanuel's and OUR connection with Celestial Messengers?
* Are we on Earth currently living in "The End Times" as predicted in Revelations?
* Why did Immanuel promise to return to us and do we know when?

Other topics include: Mary seeded by Gabriel, Guardian Angel of the Sons of Heaven. The actual teachings of the Master are given as spoken at that time. Clarification regarding God and The Creation. The Laws of The Creation and The Commandments are given in clear definitive language. The name of Judas Iscarioth is cleared as not being the one who betrayed Jesus. Statements by Jesus are provided, as spoken at that time, concerning falsification of his teachings over two thousand years. Strong warnings regarding false teachings. Words of great strength, power, light and healing at a soul-level. (Index included)

[link to www.fourwinds10.com]

Again Immanuel mean God is with us, the same meaning as Elijah.

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Thus says [Enoch] the Lord God: This shall not stand, and this shall not be.

For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within sixty-five years from now, Ephraim will cease to be a people.

And [Jesus] the Lord spoke further to Ahaz [Joe 'Semyaza' Biden], saying:

Ask for a sign for yourself from [Enoch] the Lord your God, from the depths below, even to the heights above.

And Ahaz said, “I will not ask, for I will not tempt the Lord.”

And he said: “Then listen, O house of David. Is it such a small thing for you to trouble men, that you must also trouble my God?

For this reason, [Enoch] the Lord himself will grant to you a sign. Behold, a virgin will conceive, and she will give birth to a son, and his name will be called Immanuel [Elijah the prophet].

He will eat milk and honey, so that he may know to reject evil and to choose good.

But even before the boy knows to refuse evil and to choose good, the land that you detest will be abandoned by the face of her two kings.

The Lord [Jesus] will lead over you, and over your people, and over the house of your father, such days as have not occurred since the days of the separation of Ephraim [Russia] from Judah [England] by the king of the Assyrians.

And this shall be in that day [Enoch] the Lord will call for the fly, which is in the most distant parts of the rivers of Egypt, and for the swarm, which is in the land of Assur. - Isaiah 7:8-18

Christ never said he was God.

At least not in the testament of his life, what is left of it.

Start with, his name was never Jesus, fine tooth comb the origin of your faith, this is wisdom.

God didn’t die for us. His son Jesus did.

The Bible said he was son of God.
Mary was his mother, God was his father.

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And quite obviously, you have never read the Bible.

This thread is appalling. You all lack fear of God, knowledge of the things of God, and the good sense not to tempt Him.

Y'all need to read your Bible and be open to its instruction. You are tap dancing in a minefield. God nudged me to warn you.

Don't write the Gospel on an outhouse wall.

Jesus is neither. He was the greatest human to have ever lived. Turning a man into a God is just made up.

The Father is Spirit, and no one has seen or heard His voice at any time. Jesus is the Son of God, because God did the sacrifice for us Himself, and as attributed and called the Son a generation of Himself. Jesus Christ is God, the Father and the Son are One and the same God, period. When Christ the man died for us, He was dead for three days. The Father who created all things continued as they did because the enemies of God did not realize He was gone until, until He revived, and the enemies were broken.

Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

why do you want to discuss a fictional character?

are you one of those dipshits who think they have the answer to everything?

Again who said you have a soul?, who said mankind are human?, where is your common sense?, why are you filthy, unclean and unholy?, why are you still hissing and muttering? is it because seven batshit crazy unclean spirits partying inside?.

Is the opposite of God is United Dog Nation?

Do not give what is holy to dogs [mankind a.k.a soulless beasts of the earth], and do not cast your pearls [souls] before [Zion***] swine, lest perhaps they may trample them under their feet, and then, turning, they may tear you apart [in next reincarnations]. - Lord Jesus in Matthew 7:6



And I, John [Elijah], heard and saw these things. And, after I had heard and seen, I fell down, so as to adore before the feet of the Angel, who was revealing these things to me.

And he said to me: “Be careful not to do so. For I am your fellow servant, and I am among your brothers the prophets, and among those who keep the words of the prophecy of this book. Adore God.”

And he said to me: “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book. For the time is near.

Whoever does harm, he might still do harm. And whoever is filthy, he might still be filthy. And whoever is just, he may still be just. And one who is holy, he may still be holy.”

“Behold, I am approaching quickly! And my repayment is with me, to render to each one according to his works behavior.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

Blessed are those who wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb. So may they have a right to the tree of life; so may they enter through the gates into the City.

Outside are dogs [mankind, aka soulless beasts] and drug users, and warmongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and everyone who loves to lie and practices falsehood [homosexuals and transgenders].

I Jesus sent mine angel [Elijah the prophet] to testify to these parts. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star [Lord]. - Revelation 22:8-16 Vulgate

Aren't these "Christian" responses great?