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Really good documentary on the number 1 deception

 
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This is GLP. I have no illusions about the fact that I will likely convince no one of whatever position I happen to hold.

However, I don't think asking questions and asking for proper sourcing of claims is a bad thing. Do you?

Notice my questions don't talk about the validity of the 2D model. But they are observations the model needs to address.

Why is so wrong to ask them? I thought asking questions of authority was one of the things GLP is all about.
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Now you play the victim? Lol

Get lost Langley! You’re a karma farmer who is clearly in here with a mission to convince everyone of Globe Earth. Like all of you do.

We discuss theories. You slander and mock.

You’re not trying to learn.

GTFO
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Your obvious anger at me does your ideas no credit. You have no examples of my mocking anyone, anywhere. Your ad hominems and fallacious excuses for not producing what you say you can produce doesn't reflect on me, at all.

You cannot produce what you say you can produce. You can't answer obvious flaws in your 2D Earth claims.

None of that has to do with me. Other than my pointing those obvious weaknesses out.

If I were an A/C instead, pointing out those flaws, if I were a GLP newb asking those questions, you'd *still* find excuses not to answer them. Because you cannot.
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WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
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Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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Sigh.

Why can't the Earth be modelled accurately on a flat map (Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate!) if it was, itself, flat? Can any believer provide or link to the "official" 2D map of a 2D Earth? Apparently no one, Internet-wide, can do this simple, simple thing. If one can't even provide a map of one's 2D Earth, the model is fatally flawed from go.

[link to geoawesomeness.com (secure)]

Why can't one get the distances between cities worldwide to be modelled correctly on a flat map?

How can there be direct flights between Africa, South America, and Australia on a flat Earth? The distances become far too great for flights that exist.

Why are great Circle routes used in long-distance aircraft navigation?

Why has spherical trigonometry been used to navigate the Earth, for centuries?

Why do Foucault pendulums precess?

On a flat Earth, where does Coriolis come from?

Why are all the other planets we can observe spheres?

Why is the shadow of the Earth when the Moon is eclipsed a sphere?

Why do constellations in the Southern Hemisphere circle a different point than the constellations in the Northern hemisphere on a flat Earth?

Heck, why *are* there different Southern Constellations on a flat Earth?
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Thanks for these questions. We're gonna get to the bottom of this shit but I need to watch the video one more time. Love the music. You would think that if we are moving more than 5 trillion miles through space every year there would be distortions and some movements in the constellations but no.
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Space is really, really big. :)

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So our solar system is moving at roughly 445,000 mph and has
been doing so for at least 4billion earth years yet our oldest maps have the same constellation positions. I just think there should be even a miniscule amount of deviation.
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I was logged out. I own this statement not ashamed one bit.

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Watch the first 5 minutes.
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100% FLAT EARTH INSANITY
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The earth isnt flat boys. We are on the inside surface of a globe. No outer space, inner space. Hard to wrap your head around it.
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Now you play the victim? Lol

Get lost Langley! You’re a karma farmer who is clearly in here with a mission to convince everyone of Globe Earth. Like all of you do.

We discuss theories. You slander and mock.

You’re not trying to learn.

GTFO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Your obvious anger at me does your ideas no credit. You have no examples of my mocking anyone, anywhere. Your ad hominems and fallacious excuses for not producing what you say you can produce doesn't reflect on me, at all.

You cannot produce what you say you can produce. You can't answer obvious flaws in your 2D Earth claims.

None of that has to do with me. Other than my pointing those obvious weaknesses out.

If I were an A/C instead, pointing out those flaws, if I were a GLP newb asking those questions, you'd *still* find excuses not to answer them. Because you cannot.
 Quoting: 74444


WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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Link to non cgi image of ball earth?

Link to accurate ball earth map?

Link to how the constellations work on ball earth?

Link to how earth travels trillions of miles each year but the constellations remain in the same place.

Link to explain why the stars spin in different direction in the south hemisphere? You are still turning east to west.

Link to how coriolis effect works on ball earth? with proof.
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Now you play the victim? Lol

Get lost Langley! You’re a karma farmer who is clearly in here with a mission to convince everyone of Globe Earth. Like all of you do.

We discuss theories. You slander and mock.

You’re not trying to learn.

GTFO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Your obvious anger at me does your ideas no credit. You have no examples of my mocking anyone, anywhere. Your ad hominems and fallacious excuses for not producing what you say you can produce doesn't reflect on me, at all.

You cannot produce what you say you can produce. You can't answer obvious flaws in your 2D Earth claims.

None of that has to do with me. Other than my pointing those obvious weaknesses out.

If I were an A/C instead, pointing out those flaws, if I were a GLP newb asking those questions, you'd *still* find excuses not to answer them. Because you cannot.
 Quoting: 74444


WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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There’s plenty of information in the OP videos that you obviously didn’t watch.

epiclol
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Sigh.

Why can't the Earth be modelled accurately on a flat map (Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate!) if it was, itself, flat? Can any believer provide or link to the "official" 2D map of a 2D Earth? Apparently no one, Internet-wide, can do this simple, simple thing. If one can't even provide a map of one's 2D Earth, the model is fatally flawed from go.

[link to geoawesomeness.com (secure)]

Why can't one get the distances between cities worldwide to be modelled correctly on a flat map?

How can there be direct flights between Africa, South America, and Australia on a flat Earth? The distances become far too great for flights that exist.

Why are great Circle routes used in long-distance aircraft navigation?

Why has spherical trigonometry been used to navigate the Earth, for centuries?

Why do Foucault pendulums precess?

On a flat Earth, where does Coriolis come from?

Why are all the other planets we can observe spheres?

Why is the shadow of the Earth when the Moon is eclipsed a sphere?

Why do constellations in the Southern Hemisphere circle a different point than the constellations in the Northern hemisphere on a flat Earth?

Heck, why *are* there different Southern Constellations on a flat Earth?
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Thanks for these questions. We're gonna get to the bottom of this shit but I need to watch the video one more time. Love the music. You would think that if we are moving more than 5 trillion miles through space every year there would be distortions and some movements in the constellations but no.
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Space is really, really big. :)

 Quoting: 74444

So our solar system is moving at roughly 445,000 mph and has
been doing so for at least 4billion earth years yet our oldest maps have the same constellation positions. I just think there should be even a miniscule amount of deviation.
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There is deviation. Not just in giant billion year cycles, but even in human lifetimes. We have shots of stars moving, slowly, from spots over as little as a dozen years. But most are very, very far away, so such movements are very hard to measure.

However, in about 45,000 years, Polaris won't even be the N. Star anymore. How's that for moving pretty fast?
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Fuckin' flat earth tards never give up. do they?
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Not as long as they are paid

shitstir2
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Yes, the Satanic God hating govt is paying us to convince ppl to believe in tge biblical model.

Never go full retard kid.
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Faced the epic failure of not producing a single distance calculation based on FE that meets with know empirical values, then comes the desperation of conflating interpretation of physical reality with religious beliefs.
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Thanks for these questions. We're gonna get to the bottom of this shit but I need to watch the video one more time. Love the music. You would think that if we are moving more than 5 trillion miles through space every year there would be distortions and some movements in the constellations but no.
 Quoting: Deplorable Trumpkin


Space is really, really big. :)

 Quoting: 74444

So our solar system is moving at roughly 445,000 mph and has
been doing so for at least 4billion earth years yet our oldest maps have the same constellation positions. I just think there should be even a miniscule amount of deviation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82954397


There is deviation. Not just in giant billion year cycles, but even in human lifetimes. We have shots of stars moving, slowly, from spots over as little as a dozen years. But most are very, very far away, so such movements are very hard to measure.

However, in about 45,000 years, Polaris won't even be the N. Star anymore. How's that for moving pretty fast?
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Proof? Link? Anything?
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Your obvious anger at me does your ideas no credit. You have no examples of my mocking anyone, anywhere. Your ad hominems and fallacious excuses for not producing what you say you can produce doesn't reflect on me, at all.

You cannot produce what you say you can produce. You can't answer obvious flaws in your 2D Earth claims.

None of that has to do with me. Other than my pointing those obvious weaknesses out.

If I were an A/C instead, pointing out those flaws, if I were a GLP newb asking those questions, you'd *still* find excuses not to answer them. Because you cannot.
 Quoting: 74444


WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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There’s plenty of information in the OP videos that you obviously didn’t watch.

epiclol
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Exactly.

This documentary along with Level 2021 explain literally everything.
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The earth isnt flat boys. We are on the inside surface of a globe. No outer space, inner space. Hard to wrap your head around it.
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I’ve heard this one. It’s an interesting approach.

I’m more crater earth to be honest, but I didn’t want ol 74444 head to explode.

cruise
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WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
 Quoting: 74444


There’s plenty of information in the OP videos that you obviously didn’t watch.

epiclol
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Exactly.

This documentary along with Level 2021 explain literally everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


Or at least some of it. The fact that he didn’t, and immediately came in trying to do his little song and dance just shows me everything I need to know.

I research a lot, I don’t ask other people to research for me…

People like that trust the government

epiclol
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I love seeing globies practically get a heart attack from anger at the thought of flat earth.
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Indoctrinated NWO slaves
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Your obvious anger at me does your ideas no credit. You have no examples of my mocking anyone, anywhere. Your ad hominems and fallacious excuses for not producing what you say you can produce doesn't reflect on me, at all.

You cannot produce what you say you can produce. You can't answer obvious flaws in your 2D Earth claims.

None of that has to do with me. Other than my pointing those obvious weaknesses out.

If I were an A/C instead, pointing out those flaws, if I were a GLP newb asking those questions, you'd *still* find excuses not to answer them. Because you cannot.
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WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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Link to non cgi image of ball earth?

Link to accurate ball earth map?

Link to how the constellations work on ball earth?

Link to how earth travels trillions of miles each year but the constellations remain in the same place.

Link to explain why the stars spin in different direction in the south hemisphere? You are still turning east to west.

Link to how coriolis effect works on ball earth? with proof.
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Whether the ball Earth model is accurate or not is irrelevant to the accuracy of the FE model. It must stand or not on its own merits. The most basic of which would be an accurate MAP od the Flat Earth. Where are the edges? Do you subscribe to the Antarctica-all-around map, or a different one?

You won't accept any pictures taken from space, so that's moot.

An accurate Ball-Earth map is (surprise) a physical globe. All other maps are distorted in one way or another. The LEAST distorted flat map is the Auth-Graph projection here: [link to geoawesomeness.com (secure)]

And on it, the North Pole is still a mess.

Here's how Constellations move on a "Ball Earth:"

[link to www.windows2universe.org (secure)]

Here's a bit about Stars fix-ed-ness. [link to www.wtamu.edu (secure)]

(And, by the by, the Solar System only moves about 3 billion miles a year. Takes some time to get to trillions.)

As to why there would be two different points the heavens would seem to rotate about, it's because you're looking from the "top" and "bottom" of a 3-dimensional object rotating. There *has* to be 2 points of rotation and voila! There are.

So, now that I have addressed your questions, could you see yourself linking to similar pages supporting your positions? And I prefer reading over youtube, if at all possible.
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Space is really, really big. :)

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So our solar system is moving at roughly 445,000 mph and has
been doing so for at least 4billion earth years yet our oldest maps have the same constellation positions. I just think there should be even a miniscule amount of deviation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82954397


There is deviation. Not just in giant billion year cycles, but even in human lifetimes. We have shots of stars moving, slowly, from spots over as little as a dozen years. But most are very, very far away, so such movements are very hard to measure.

However, in about 45,000 years, Polaris won't even be the N. Star anymore. How's that for moving pretty fast?
 Quoting: 74444


Proof? Link? Anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


Sure! [link to mydarksky.org (secure)]

And actually, I was wrong: it's about 26,000 years.
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headache
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Can you prove the earth is a ball in a court of law?
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WE DID. You rejected it like the allegory of the cave…

I’m don’t with you Langley. Kindly fuck off
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81411891


Then LINK to the map/image of Flat Earth! Where are the continents in relation to one another? What is the *correct* FE map that the FE believers can agree on?

LINK to how the Constellations work in different hemispheres. How are there 2 points the stars swing about with a motionless firmament instead of one? How are there differing constellations under a motionless flat Earth?

Where does Coriolis come from?

Why do the FE believers consider these such tall questions?
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There’s plenty of information in the OP videos that you obviously didn’t watch.

epiclol
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Exactly.

This documentary along with Level 2021 explain literally everything.
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Really? In precisely what minute does it provide the MAP of a Flat Earth?
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Another Q video

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From a grandma who discovered FE 3yrs ago - THANK YOU!
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these threads always attract the tree fiddys.
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So the ISS that you can see details of with a telescope is what?

A projection?

(Sigh) the dunning Kruger effect is strong in this thread.
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LISTEN DAMN YOU! If the earth is flat: how is it that when the sun is dipping below the horizon where I'm at, it is high in the sky somewhere else?! If the earth was flat, it would appear to dip below the horizon at the same time all over earth! Think of the trajectory. If it dips here, yet is high in the sky elsewhere-that is impossible if the earth is flat! You people are ridiculous!
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You can’t convince them. They are too emotionally caught up in the FE fantasy. Many of them know it’s all complete garbage but they have too much invested to change now. They are committed, and will not change no matter how much logic is presented to them.
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Found two ppl that dont understand perspective or vanishing point.
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You found two people who understand reality.
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So the ISS that you can see details of with a telescope is what?

A projection?

(Sigh) the dunning Kruger effect is strong in this thread.
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Is that not one way to explain it?
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LISTEN DAMN YOU! If the earth is flat: how is it that when the sun is dipping below the horizon where I'm at, it is high in the sky somewhere else?! If the earth was flat, it would appear to dip below the horizon at the same time all over earth! Think of the trajectory. If it dips here, yet is high in the sky elsewhere-that is impossible if the earth is flat! You people are ridiculous!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79481698


You can’t convince them. They are too emotionally caught up in the FE fantasy. Many of them know it’s all complete garbage but they have too much invested to change now. They are committed, and will not change no matter how much logic is presented to them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219026


Found two ppl that dont understand perspective or vanishing point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83167821


You found two people who understand reality.
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perhaps the sun is going under a flat plan off the edge of earth at times? calculated by the bright spot on the moon and shadow. Earth is definitely flat but the shadows of the moon appear strange at different days of the month.
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That was damn good.


Not an abundance of evidence necessarily, more geared toward freeing one's mind and the psychology of our reality.


Lots of shocking nuggets, the one in particular I had never heard of or considered is the black sun, the most likely cause of an eclipse phenomenon.. that it's not the moon, because there is no moon entering or leaving an eclipse event, but in fact the presence of a celestial body we cannot otherwise see.



Anyway, excellent presentation.



Spiritual experience to watch.
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You can’t convince them. They are too emotionally caught up in the FE fantasy. Many of them know it’s all complete garbage but they have too much invested to change now. They are committed, and will not change no matter how much logic is presented to them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219026


Found two ppl that dont understand perspective or vanishing point.
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You found two people who understand reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219026


perhaps the sun is going under a flat plan off the edge of earth at times? calculated by the bright spot on the moon and shadow. Earth is definitely flat but the shadows of the moon appear strange at different days of the month.
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Lunar wave.
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“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell
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So, despite answering questions about Ball-Earth, my questions remain unaddressed.

Why can't the Earth be modelled accurately on a flat map (Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate!) if it was, itself, flat? Can any believer provide or link to the "official" FLAT map of a FLAT Earth? Apparently no one, Internet-wide, can do this simple, simple thing. If one can't even provide a map of one's FLAT Earth, the model is fatally flawed from go.

[link to geoawesomeness.com (secure)]

Why can't one get the distances between cities worldwide to be modelled correctly on a flat map?

How can there be direct flights between Africa, South America, and Australia on a flat Earth? The distances become far too great for flights that exist.

Why are great Circle routes used in long-distance aircraft navigation?

Why has spherical trigonometry been used to navigate the Earth, for centuries?

Why do Foucault pendulums precess?

On a flat Earth, where does Coriolis come from?

Why are all the other planets we can observe spheres?

Why is the shadow of the Earth when the Moon is eclipsed a sphere?

Why do constellations in the Southern Hemisphere circle a different point than the constellations in the Northern hemisphere on a flat Earth?

Heck, why *are* there different Southern Constellations on a flat Earth?

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Re: Really good documentary on the number 1 deception
I like lots of "conspiracies" and also the inner earth theory. Honestly, my mind was open, but this film did not convince me.

I tend to think it's all more of a torus.

I did enjoy the film though. Just not convinced.





GLP