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(OP) User ID: 80697892 Canada 05/12/2022 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? 2. What did Adam and Eve choose to do? Jehovah was very generous to Adam and Eve. He said they could eat from every tree in the garden of Eden except one. (Genesis 2:15-17) But they decided to eat the fruit of that tree anyway. Eve “began taking of its fruit and eating it.” Later, Adam “began eating it.” (Genesis 3:6) They both disobeyed God. Because Adam and Eve were perfect, it was natural for them to do what is right. But by willfully disobeying God, they sinned and rejected his rulership. That decision caused them great suffering.—Genesis 3:16-19. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78193771 United States 05/12/2022 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? 1. Humans are just animals. 2. Some humans have defective brains, which keep them like spoiled little selfish brat children their entire lives. 3. The spoiled children in adults bodies managed to rise to the top through lying, deceit, cheating and murder. Got it? |
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(OP) User ID: 81660600 United States 05/12/2022 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? 1. Humans are just animals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78193771 2. Some humans have defective brains, which keep them like spoiled little selfish brat children their entire lives. 3. The spoiled children in adults bodies managed to rise to the top through lying, deceit, cheating and murder. Got it? 10-4 buddy 'com on back. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83211837 Australia 05/12/2022 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? All was going well till satan turned up and handed Eve a watchtower mag. She read it and also gave it to Adan to read. And by believing the serpents lies about who God was they fell and took us all with them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79934492 United States 05/13/2022 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? All was going well till satan turned up and handed Eve a watchtower mag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83211837 She read it and also gave it to Adan to read. And by believing the serpents lies about who God was they fell and took us all with them. Bummer, how can we get back? By choosing to learn to grow up. The Adam and Eve story is a metaphor. Garden of Eden is Earth. Adam and Eve represent the male and female humans respectively. The snake is our purposely "dumb down" DNA to make us feel we are separated from God for the amazing adventure of finding who we truly are and why we are here. Solve the puzzle and assist with bringing love/light to this young dark world that is at the infancy of spirituality. No Satan, just humans without the wisdom and maturity to make better choices that aligns with love. Love has always been the solution to all our human problems. Our true nature is unconditional love, compassion, benevolence, and joy. Not the false nature that is the ego which only knows of greed, hoarding, and superiority. The compassionate and benevolent God is pure unconditional love. Connect the dots only if you wish to do so. Not convinced? Uncover what the soul truly is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79291976 United States 05/13/2022 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? All was going well till satan turned up and handed Eve a watchtower mag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83211837 She read it and also gave it to Adan to read. And by believing the serpents lies about who God was they fell and took us all with them. Bummer, how can we get back? By choosing to learn to grow up. The Adam and Eve story is a metaphor. Garden of Eden is Earth. Adam and Eve represent the male and female humans respectively. The snake is our purposely "dumb down" DNA to make us feel we are separated from God for the amazing adventure of finding who we truly are and why we are here. Solve the puzzle and assist with bringing love/light to this young dark world that is at the infancy of spirituality. No Satan, just humans without the wisdom and maturity to make better choices that aligns with love. Love has always been the solution to all our human problems. Our true nature is unconditional love, compassion, benevolence, and joy. Not the false nature that is the ego which only knows of greed, hoarding, and superiority. The compassionate and benevolent God is pure unconditional love. Connect the dots only if you wish to do so. Not convinced? Uncover what the soul truly is. That's beautiful statement romania |
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The Greatest Light User ID: 75437482 United States 05/13/2022 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? Fourth Basis—The great Law of Iniquity, in which the iniquity of the fathers is visited upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. Divine in its origin, laid down from the beginning, and upon which hinges the plan of the redemption of man as recorded in the Scriptures. "Fiat Lux et Veritas" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80167049 United States 05/13/2022 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? I once saw a movie where the end of days was coming and it showed all the angels in Heaven all excited and putting on armour - saying "Isn't this great! We've been waiting for ages for this to happen" "Our time has come! Get ready to roll!" I prefer to think of this as a time where all the actors are just showing up on the stage before the Big Event where Christ returns. |
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(OP) User ID: 81660600 United States 05/13/2022 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? All was going well till satan turned up and handed Eve a watchtower mag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83211837 She read it and also gave it to Adan to read. And by believing the serpents lies about who God was they fell and took us all with them. If she read the Watchtower which exposes Satan's lies why did she believe she was immortal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79934492 United States 05/13/2022 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? Why Do Evil and Suffering Exist? Quoting: DGN “Why?” is a natural question for a person to ask when tragedy strikes. How happy we are that the Bible offers clear answers to that question! 1. How did Satan introduce evil into the world? Satan the Devil rebelled against God. Satan wanted to rule over others, so he influenced the first humans, Adam and Eve, to join him in his rebellion. Satan did this by telling Eve a lie. (Genesis 3:1-5) He made her think that Jehovah was wrongly withholding something good from her. He implied that humans would be happier if they did not obey God. Satan told the first lie by telling Eve that she would not die. Thus, the Bible calls Satan “a liar and the father of the lie.”—John 8:44. We have been "dumb down" on purpose willingly for an amazing adventure while in human form of learning to grow up and uncovering who we truly are. Duality provides harsh contrast to fast track our learning. Meaning evil serves a purpose in our early spiritual growth by providing harsh contrast to good and pushing us hard to seek the love of God for comfort and guidance. The purpose of what some see as suffering are many. A few are: 1. Lessons stick more and are more permanent. When lessons are too easy we tend to forget and repeat same mistakes. 2. Become more compassionate mentors. We can't help others who are suffering when we don't even know the pain that they are going through. 3. Divine nudges to push us back onto the path to love. Some call this karma, Law of Attraction, causality, what goes around comes around, and reap what you sow. When we fail to see or heed those divine nudges, the subsequent nudges get stronger to make us see. Then some mistakenly believe those stronger nudges to be punishment from a vengeful God for disobeying or displeasing, or that God has abandoned them to suffer alone. Such a great misunderstanding of the caring, compassionate, and benevolent God that has our best interest in mind. As we move further along the spiritual path to love, what we once earlier saw as suffering and adversities will now be seen as blessed and grateful lesson opportunities to gain more wisdom and maturity. With greater wisdom and benevolent maturity comes greater inner peace and calm, more able to open our hearts to receiving God's love and give love to others. A return to our true divine nature and become more in unity with God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82744901 United States 05/13/2022 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? It is necessary. You cannot force a person to live in a loving and caring way, it must be a choice. Everyone must choose and live with the consequences of those choices. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81795173 United States 05/13/2022 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? Why Do Evil and Suffering Exist? Quoting: DGN “Why?” is a natural question for a person to ask when tragedy strikes. How happy we are that the Bible offers clear answers to that question! 1. How did Satan introduce evil into the world? Satan the Devil rebelled against God. Satan wanted to rule over others, so he influenced the first humans, Adam and Eve, to join him in his rebellion. Satan did this by telling Eve a lie. (Genesis 3:1-5) He made her think that Jehovah was wrongly withholding something good from her. He implied that humans would be happier if they did not obey God. Satan told the first lie by telling Eve that she would not die. Thus, the Bible calls Satan “a liar and the father of the lie.”—John 8:44. According to the text… did the serpent specifically say he was implying? If the serpent didn’t, the implying is done by the interpreter (you and me). So once she ate of the tree, like the serpent said, she did not die… physically at least. So based on textual argument with Genesis chapter three, did the serpent really lie? She ate, and her eyes were opened. She gave life. And because she gained the knowledge of good and evil, a new beginning for mankind was created. If she hadn’t eaten of the tree, then the story of Humanity as we know it wouldn’t have even happened, right? It simply would have been Adam and Eve in the Garden together with God forever, right? So does true existence, life, begin begin in the Garden, or end there? |
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User ID: 83098650 United Kingdom 05/13/2022 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? As I remember it you've been lazy, disobedient cunts since the start, expecting everything for free. This means you expend all the effort of your life in taking in one way or another. This is because you are empty, having nothing to give. This is because you are lazy and disobedient. This is why you have nothing to give and are empty inside. Which in turn is why you expend all your effort in taking. Then you esteem the extent to which you have succeeded in taking as the equivalent to your worth as a person. So this place has never been perfect. Since it's inception mankind has not bothered to develop much and instead has just indulged in personal gratification. Same today. That's why you're in this mess. Your egos. What you like to do for pleasure. That's your problem here. It is not enough to win. One must win with style. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66393026 New Zealand 05/13/2022 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? Satan was not created. Lucifer was. He fell die to his pride - this is known as the mystery of iniquity. Why? no one will ever know. It makes sense that the most powerful, intelligent being besides God himself would fall to pride though. I suppose through the long time of eternity an aberration was bound to happen and it did. We can know sin will never happen again as we will be living witnesses to God's mercy, judgement and authority. Hallelujah! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82638495 United States 05/13/2022 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? So the Supreme Creator Of Everything, All Knowing, All Powerful, who is limitless in his knowledge and power- did not know that Eve was going to bite the fruit? Did not know that Lucifer would rise against him? Did not know that others would join him in the rebellion? Was hell pre-made (like a time share) or only after the fall was it created? In short, IMHO, HE knew. He had to know. Beyond that, he created it. Intentionally. Knowing that Hitlers, Maos, Stalins, Pol Pots and Bidens will show up. To believe anything else is heretical because it limits God. It did not get "infected". It was made this way. |
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(OP) User ID: 81660600 United States 05/13/2022 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: God's magnificent creation: How did it get infected with evil and suffering which didn't previously exist? 3. How has Adam and Eve’s decision affected us? When Adam and Eve sinned, they became imperfect, and they thus passed on imperfection to all of their descendants. Regarding Adam, the Bible says: “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men.”—Romans 5:12. We suffer for a variety of reasons. Sometimes we suffer because of bad decisions we make. Sometimes we suffer because of other people’s bad decisions. Sometimes we suffer because we are in the wrong place at the wrong time.—Read Ecclesiastes 9:11. |
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