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Does Absolute Truth exist?

 
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Does Absolute Truth exist?
What say you?
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Yes, but it can’t be spoken.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Sure, it's hiding behind the white rabbit. Follow the white rabbit.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Of course.

A lighter is a lighter. This is absolute truth.

If a lighter is ugly or nice, that is not absolute, it's subjective.

Some truths are absolute, some are subjective.
"-But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we should prefer to consider, will think that things have happened as they really did." - Socrates.

"-This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are." - Plato

"-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Yes.. but the world is so far from it, they would attack you for speaking it.. you would sound insane.
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Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Fear mongering jobs that spread gossip is all that exist

Absolute truth would only get in the way
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Yes, but it can’t be spoken.
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Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81795173


You must learn the difference between opinion and Truth.

One is fact. The other is based on our perceptions of that fact.

While it is Truth that YOU perceive your wife as beautiful, if that is how you perceive her...

It is not Truth that all people would perceive her the same way.

One is fact. The other is subjective opinion.
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Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81795173


You must learn the difference between opinion and Truth.

One is fact. The other is based on our perceptions of that fact.

While it is Truth that YOU perceive your wife as beautiful, if that is how you perceive her...

It is not Truth that all people would perceive her the same way.

One is fact. The other is subjective opinion.
 Quoting: Facts R Facts 80818996


If I'm discussing what someone did, and the discussion immediately turns to epistemology, the probability is that I am dealing with a liar, who is intelligent enough to know better, but who also has no conscience. Then it's time to go.
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Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81795173


The fact that she is beautiful to you is a subjective truth (depends on the subject perception).

The fact that she is a woman, is absolute truth.
"-But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we should prefer to consider, will think that things have happened as they really did." - Socrates.

"-This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are." - Plato

"-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Yes
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No, Even if it Does, You DO NOT want to carry it. No!
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Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
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The fact that she is beautiful to you is a subjective truth (depends on the subject perception).

The fact that she is a woman, is absolute truth.
 Quoting: Dubitabam Visionaria


This is correct.

Sounds simple, yet so hard to grasp for so many.

But everything that happens to you, in your lifetime, depends entirely on how you accept or reject this information.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
I do think there is absolute truth.

The force of gravity and what happens when you drop a pencil. It's absolutely true that it will fall to the ground.

Also, it is absolutely true that the female body is made to create babies and it's absolute truth that it needs sperm cells to combine with the female egg. This is absolute.

Do you mean in philosophical terms such as , what is the absolute truth about murder, authority, love, spirituality, God, why we are here, etc.

IF you take a philosophy class this question will come up and it will probably covered for months and months and the discussion will still be going and going
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Absolute truth is a quality or characteristic of God. Emet.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
What say you?
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yes

all the ways you can die are absolute truths

if you stab someone
choke them
drown them
set them on fire
shoot them
decapitate them
hit them with a car
hit them with a rock

all these things will absolutely, truly kill you
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Absolute truth is a quality or characteristic of God. Emet.
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But that is not the absolute truth because different people have different ideas and different qualities and characteristics they assign to their Higher Power.

The quality of something or the characteristic of a Mystical deity or presence cannot be absolute either because quality and characteristics are a description of something, not the thing itself.

That seems to me more like an opinion or a subjective belief to the person who believes that.

Also, their belief in it does not make it a absolute Knowing because believing and knowing are different.

Absolute truth comes from knowing and not believing in the thing in question.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
"What is truth?" ~ Pontius Pilate
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"What is truth?" ~ Pontius Pilate
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the sun will rise every day until it burns out and dies

that is truth, Pilate
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Absolute truth is a quality or characteristic of God. Emet.
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Yes

The laws that create the forces which govern our existence are built on Absolut Truth and in concordance with this foundation, all subseqient objective facts and truth are alsopreficated on these forces, laws and foundational Absolute Truth.

These laws and forces are consistent in every subjective reality making them objective however the Absolut Truth is imperceptable and cannot be spoken of or conceptualized and yet it IS.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
It does or the word truth wouldn’t be possible to exist. It may be in platonian perfects.. similar to how we can’t see a perfect circle in our world but we know the idea.. but that idea exists somewhere and is valid such as absolute truth.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Outside of quantum mechanics, a switch is either on or it is off.
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Pilate said to him, “What is truth?”
And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

And in those days people will seek death and will not find it. They will long to die, but death will flee from them.
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Absolute truth is a quality or characteristic of God. Emet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80562797


Yes

The laws that create the forces which govern our existence are built on Absolut Truth and in concordance with this foundation, all subseqient objective facts and truth are alsopreficated on these forces, laws and foundational Absolute Truth.

These laws and forces are consistent in every subjective reality making them objective however the Absolut Truth is imperceptable and cannot be spoken of or conceptualized and yet it IS.
 Quoting: Still 80151523


Well if you are referring to the laws of the Universe, and the creator of the Universe, then there a reaction for every action. Such as if one pollutes the earth, then earth will become damaged. That's the cause and effect law and one could say that this law is a Absolute truth.
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Try believing gravity is subjective, step off that cliff...

How many children burn hands on stove cause they believe it to be harmless?
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There are 13 ways of looking at a blackbird.
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Absolutely!

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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Does truth have to be absolute? It’s true My wife is beautiful. Yet, not everyone thinks my wife is beautiful. So is it absolutely true my wife is beautiful? Well, no… I’d beg to differ. Unless I could someone get everyone in the world to all vote and agree my wife is beautiful, it can’t be absolutely true she is beautiful. Where do we find absolute truth? At the end? Or the beginning? Is truth drawn out like water from a river, or injected like an evolving virus to a host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81795173


The fact that she is beautiful to you is a subjective truth (depends on the subject perception).

The fact that she is a woman, is absolute truth.
 Quoting: Dubitabam Visionaria


This is correct.

Sounds simple, yet so hard to grasp for so many.

But everything that happens to you, in your lifetime, depends entirely on how you accept or reject this information.
 Quoting: Objective vs. Subjective 80151523


Well, the fact that she is a woman will still be an absolute truth, even if he reject the information.
"-But why, my dear Crito, should we care so much for the opinion of the many? For the most worthy men, whom we should prefer to consider, will think that things have happened as they really did." - Socrates.

"-This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are." - Plato

"-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
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math
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Re: Does Absolute Truth exist?
Yes, Yeshua.
Here are some of the govt. (CIA, NASA, Military, University) documents used in Pastor Dean's message “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth:”
[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on.





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