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Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?

 
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Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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They’re not just losing, they’re getting humiliated. Owned by the peasants next door.

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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Says the Putin Puffer.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I dont think they were ever strong to begin with. Not since the 60s and 70s at least.

Qithout nukes that the israeli spies stole from us and gabe to them, they arent much of a threat at all.
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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Says the Putin Puffer.
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Yeah that’s it…go virtue signal your h0m0 web friends
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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Spot on.
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Russia was a 3rd world country during ww1 and ww2.

Stealing german scientists after ww2 gave them a boost to get them a space program and help them set up some industries, but russia peaked in those years. In the 60 and 70 when those german scientists had died, they have been going downhill ever since. The eurasian steppe people just arent capable of reproducing the technology that white men created.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Russia --> sideways <-- Ukraine
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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Ukraines weakness is a lack of depth of highly trained personnel.
imo
Russia is going after those units alone and willing to take losses to bring them out

Soon, no matter what NATO sends Ukraine, the new conscripts will have no experience with the weapons
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They have the s400 anti air/electronic jamming system which would make these ‘drones’ obsolete but aren’t using it.

They have heat tracking visuals to determine oncoming troop formations and individuals with anti tank but aren’t using it.

They could basically carpet bomb then advance which they aren’t.

Now are they trying to drag NATO to actively engage in Ukraine or is all this technological weapon art a complete lie.

Considering the swiftness that they erased ISIS and pushed NATO countries out of Syria I believe either the war is b0ll0cks and it’s all for show or Russia is trying to drag NATO forces into Ukraine.
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Russia --> sideways <-- Ukraine
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AC sideways MSM
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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68 million Americans receive some form of government assistance.

Who is living in poverty?
America is Babylon and Vladimir Putin is the Beast of Revelation:

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
But it could be bollocks because the BRICS country have an alliance similar to NATO in that if one of the countries is attacked the other within BRICS would attack together -

Now Brazil, India, China, Iran as well as countries such as Venezuela etc could suddenly launch attacks. This would mean a multiple front around the world that would scatter the NATO forces……………nothing.

At the same time if NATO was serious as well as troop buildup in eastern Europe we would be seeing mass troop movement to Alaska and mass buildup north of Norway etc. again something doesn’t make sense. No Russian citizens are being expelled from western countries and considering the threat of nuclear this would be the first action………. Nothing.

We need to look at who is suffering - we the people are the ones suffering yet again………..why didn’t Russia invade 12 months ago when the rest of the world was in turmoil during lockdowns which would have severely restricted troop movements etc, even creating health hazards when the ‘pandemic’ was at its worse simply because it would have made viral spread far easier if 10,000s of troops were masses together.

None of it makes sense.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They have the s400 anti air/electronic jamming system which would make these ‘drones’ obsolete but aren’t using it.

They have heat tracking visuals to determine oncoming troop formations and individuals with anti tank but aren’t using it.

They could basically carpet bomb then advance which they aren’t.

Now are they trying to drag NATO to actively engage in Ukraine or is all this technological weapon art a complete lie.

Considering the swiftness that they erased ISIS and pushed NATO countries out of Syria I believe either the war is b0ll0cks and it’s all for show or Russia is trying to drag NATO forces into Ukraine.
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This makes sense. There's no way Russia could really be losing a war against Ukraine. Winning wars is what Russia does best.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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Biden asked Putin to go into Ukraine and cover up Hunters finger prints

Which are all over everything
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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It's because they are losing.

It is not true they sent their old tanks in as bait. We have seen every fielded battle tank model get destroyed minus the Armata. Including export t90m's. Why the Russians are having to dip into their export armor is sort of telling.

During their assault on Kyiv they lost a shit ton of elite units. Everything from VDV to GRU even some VMF. The entire 331st VDV got wiped out. That's like American losing large numbers of Green Berets, SEALS and the entire 82nd airborne.

Without a full mobilization Russia is going to lose and if they do have to fully mobilize... that's kind of embarrassing as well, given all their bluster.

They can't even knock out the Ukrainian air force... how are they ever going to tackle NATO?
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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It's because they are losing.

It is not true they sent their old tanks in as bait. We have seen every fielded battle tank model get destroyed minus the Armata. Including export t90m's. Why the Russians are having to dip into their export armor is sort of telling.

During their assault on Kyiv they lost a shit ton of elite units. Everything from VDV to GRU even some VMF. The entire 331st VDV got wiped out. That's like American losing large numbers of Green Berets, SEALS and the entire 82nd airborne.

Without a full mobilization Russia is going to lose and if they do have to fully mobilize... that's kind of embarrassing as well, given all their bluster.

They can't even knock out the Ukrainian air force... how are they ever going to tackle NATO?
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I don't believe that. The red army has 5 million men.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They have the s400 anti air/electronic jamming system which would make these ‘drones’ obsolete but aren’t using it.

They have heat tracking visuals to determine oncoming troop formations and individuals with anti tank but aren’t using it.

They could basically carpet bomb then advance which they aren’t.

Now are they trying to drag NATO to actively engage in Ukraine or is all this technological weapon art a complete lie.

Considering the swiftness that they erased ISIS and pushed NATO countries out of Syria I believe either the war is b0ll0cks and it’s all for show or Russia is trying to drag NATO forces into Ukraine.
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They have deployed s400s. [link to militarywatchmagazine.com (secure)] They just aren't as effective as they claim. F35s flew all over them in syria without batting an eyelash, that should have been your first clue.

They are using thermals in several of their tank models. We've literally seen every type of fielded tank except the Armata get destroyed in Ukraine. Including export model t90m's.

Carpet bombing and advance? You mean like Mariupol? Where they did that exact thing and yet are still fighting there? That's what they've recently started doing around Kharkiv because they have almost been pushed back to the border and it's not working either. Thank you western manpads.

Their technological capabilities are a lie.

As for the whole Daesh thing, I think you need to go learn about the actual conflict WHICH IS STILL ONGOING.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
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Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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It's because they are losing.

It is not true they sent their old tanks in as bait. We have seen every fielded battle tank model get destroyed minus the Armata. Including export t90m's. Why the Russians are having to dip into their export armor is sort of telling.

During their assault on Kyiv they lost a shit ton of elite units. Everything from VDV to GRU even some VMF. The entire 331st VDV got wiped out. That's like American losing large numbers of Green Berets, SEALS and the entire 82nd airborne.

Without a full mobilization Russia is going to lose and if they do have to fully mobilize... that's kind of embarrassing as well, given all their bluster.

They can't even knock out the Ukrainian air force... how are they ever going to tackle NATO?
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I don't believe that. The red army has 5 million men.
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They could mobilize their entire force and reach such numbers, but haven't.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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israel dies a bit more every day

israeli shills lie a bit more every day

all prestige gone

plagiarised divine mandate proven to be spurious

weak, weak israel
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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Devastating the US...completely wiping out the economy draining our oil reserves gifted the NATO over seas.
Drain our military supplies....known to come from China. An Arch Enemy and one siding with Russia.

China make most of the part our military runs on.

Block our supply chain and assist on creating food and resources the population live on.

I feel both the current US administration and Russia's are working together to accomplish the destruction.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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This:

[link to www.suissegold.eu (secure)]
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It's called propping and under the current world economy, plus the sanctions and lose of revenue in europe the real question is... how long can they keep the ruble propped up?
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They have the s400 anti air/electronic jamming system which would make these ‘drones’ obsolete but aren’t using it.

They have heat tracking visuals to determine oncoming troop formations and individuals with anti tank but aren’t using it.

They could basically carpet bomb then advance which they aren’t.

Now are they trying to drag NATO to actively engage in Ukraine or is all this technological weapon art a complete lie.

Considering the swiftness that they erased ISIS and pushed NATO countries out of Syria I believe either the war is b0ll0cks and it’s all for show or Russia is trying to drag NATO forces into Ukraine.
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They have deployed s400s. [link to militarywatchmagazine.com (secure)] They just aren't as effective as they claim. F35s flew all over them in syria without batting an eyelash, that should have been your first clue.

They are using thermals in several of their tank models. We've literally seen every type of fielded tank except the Armata get destroyed in Ukraine. Including export model t90m's.

Carpet bombing and advance? You mean like Mariupol? Where they did that exact thing and yet are still fighting there? That's what they've recently started doing around Kharkiv because they have almost been pushed back to the border and it's not working either. Thank you western manpads.

Their technological capabilities are a lie.

As for the whole Daesh thing, I think you need to go learn about the actual conflict WHICH IS STILL ONGOING.
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that knish isn't going to eat itself flabby dark horse cunt!





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