It's 2022 and everybody has Internet; Why don't we have a Direct Democracy and get rid of Senators and Representatives? How do we switch?

Majority rule in a world of sin, is how you die. The bad far, far out weigh the good.

Do you have a reason?

Because a true democracy sucks butt, as the general population is insane.

We have state reps so our entire country doesn't look like Los Angeles.

We could put people like Joe Bribe me now Biden out of business. We could immediately get rid of all the career politicians that hang on for 40 years.

Um. Because we are a Republic not a democracy. 51% "majority" is fucking bullshit and doesn't work.

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What Pure Direct Democracies do you know of?

Yes, this! ^^^

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

That is what they say, but how do we know that's really so?

51% of the people you meet say it's good to off you. 49% disagree. That's it, it's been decided.

There's your direct democracy.

Because direct democracies become mobs.
You need someone high class overseeng it all.

That's true.

Also you need a geographical balance.
Tons of people jammed into cities with city ways of thinking and city skills.

Rural states are the backbone of the country -- farming, mining. Fewer of them but a huge impact on the economy. Electoral college gives them a say which they wouldn't have with a straight democracy.

"The Founders" were pretty f'ing smart.

The only thing they failed to foresee is the dominance of mass media which now basically run the country without having been elected at all.

It shouldn't be too hard to switch. None of the present regime gives a flying damn about the constitution anyway so what is there to stop any major changes?

Cause we aren't a democracy you buffoon, we are a constitutional republic.

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Do you need to be reminded of the phrase "No taxation without representation"?

Representation is key. People who feel that their interests are not having representation in government are not going to be very willing to obey the standards of that government.

Direct democracy would be a disaster: massive quantities of people would end up having absolutely 0 representation. They'd quickly realize that they're slaves to the absolute tyranny of the 51%. There would be no subtlety about it either. While plenty of people today feel they have no representation in government, there is at least an illusion of representation in the form of all those legislators of which a few claim to represent your region and probably a few that somewhat kinda represent adjacent views.

In a direct democracy that would be all gone. It would be a certainty to people that the government is nothing but an enemy, completely uncapable of being reasoned or negotiated with. Rampant terrorism and worse would be an inevitable result.

Well, there has to be some rules.

NO shit Sherlock. I'm talking about making a change. Duhh.

What are you talking about? You and every citizen represents themselves and votes on everything. I'm talking about getting rid of representatives.

What is stopping it now? It looks like we are having some major changes. Did I mention a firing squad for anyone that hacks the votes? Did I mention a firing squad for anyone that attempts bribing the population?

Only a buffoon would bring up what everybody knows.

OP, you act like you are stuck in toddler. Grow up a bit for the adult convos...and learn how to read with an intent to understand.

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Yes the founders were really smart, but some really smart people have hacked the system and have taken control of the country. This country is totally out of reasonable control. We've been forced into massive Inflation, crazy social decisions and we are staring WWIII right in the eyes. It's hard to imagine that a Direct Democracy could be worse than what is going on right now. It's plain as day that our voting system has been corrupted and neither party is willing to do anything about it.

??? Read it yourself. Who, with an IQ higher than 110 doesn't know that this is a Representative Democracy? Are you another buffoon with an 85IQ?

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you mean constitutional republic, right?

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

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51% of the population could say it's legal to get get rid of other 49%. Think that would not happen? Have you not been paying attention the last two years?

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We are a republic.
Democracy = five wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

What we need is a convention of states. Get rid of 60% of the government we have now and get control back to the way it’s supposed to be.

That will be the legit final nail in the coffin of America when that happens. Sadly, it will probably happen sooner rather then later.