Even Gold Bugs On KITCO NEWS Say Gold Has No Upside | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83340663 Belize 05/21/2022 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get. And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade? In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years. Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment". Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack. Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you. I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81785862 United States 05/21/2022 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well first, that's what I call "the man in the suit syndrome" You have a guy in a suit on TV (internet now) so you think he knows something. combine that with A large percentage of people want someone who knows something to tell them what's going to happen so they can do something and not be wrong. after that, almost always, when everyone hates something, even the people who like it don't like it anymore, that's when it is time to buy. Business Week had a famous Death of Equities" cover, on the damn cover of a whole magazine devoted to business, so it has to be right you know, in 1982, so 1982 would have been a terrible time to buy stocks. They had another cover about something after that. Dead wrong. Search "Business Week cover indicator". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81785862 United States 05/21/2022 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Bitcoin will, theoretically, be "mined" around the year 2140. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340663 However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be. I'll go out on a limb, we'll be dead so we won't know, in 2140 Bitcoin will have been gone for decades. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well first, that's what I call "the man in the suit syndrome" You have a guy in a suit on TV (internet now) so you think he knows something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81785862 combine that with A large percentage of people want someone who knows something to tell them what's going to happen so they can do something and not be wrong. after that, almost always, when everyone hates something, even the people who like it don't like it anymore, that's when it is time to buy. Business Week had a famous Death of Equities" cover, on the damn cover of a whole magazine devoted to business, so it has to be right you know, in 1982, so 1982 would have been a terrible time to buy stocks. They had another cover about something after that. Dead wrong. Search "Business Week cover indicator". He’s been an analyst for over 25 years and he puts himself out there unlike you, the internet stranger. |
Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 82065085 United States 05/21/2022 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135 Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment. KITCO LITERALLY SELLS GOLD, what the hell are you talking about? Sooo Look at all these banks selling financial instruments and still doing their part to crash the system. Just because someone sells gold doesn't make them legit or honest. I've held gold since the 90s and BTC since 2013. I see where both are valuable. I get tired of seeing PM giys and Crypto guys duking it out. BOTH have their place in protecting wealth in SHTF. "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135 Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment. KITCO LITERALLY SELLS GOLD, what the hell are you talking about? Sooo Look at all these banks selling financial instruments and still doing their part to crash the system. Just because someone sells gold doesn't make them legit or honest. I've held gold since the 90s and BTC since 2013. I see where both are valuable. I get tired of seeing PM giys and Crypto guys duking it out. BOTH have their place in protecting wealth in SHTF. What? Banks don’t sell financial instruments and say they have no upside while they’re selling it to you. |
Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 82065085 United States 05/21/2022 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get. And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade? In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years. Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment". Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack. Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you. I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit. Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold. Thats all. Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on. "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79265847 United States 05/21/2022 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166 That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get. And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade? In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years. Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment". Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack. Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you. I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit. Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold. Thats all. Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on. And with gold losing 30% on the spread. When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79031244 United States 05/21/2022 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gold will rocket at the point when peoples confidence in money becomes low. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73161030 When the price in money gets too high to be a viable solution, people will seek gold. Not according to Gary Wagner. He says, best case, one more leg up to about $2250 in the second quarter of next year and then a multi year BEAR MARKET for gold. Good is going into a bear market as we enter a period of hyperinflation. Sure. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gold will rocket at the point when peoples confidence in money becomes low. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73161030 When the price in money gets too high to be a viable solution, people will seek gold. Not according to Gary Wagner. He says, best case, one more leg up to about $2250 in the second quarter of next year and then a multi year BEAR MARKET for gold. Good is going into a bear market as we enter a period of hyperinflation. Sure. Watch the video. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what are they going to do with it? Put it on their balance sheet to balance out the tens of trillions in bad debt instruments? They would never have enough. Central banks are dying and so is the fake value of gold. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81921048 United States 05/21/2022 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166 That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get. And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade? Gold is not really a reliable "store of value" because no-one knows (or is saying) exactly how much gold there is in the world. The Seagrave man and wife team of authors made a pretty watertight case in their book "Gold Warriors" concerning the MILLIONS OF TONS of "Yamashita's Gold" hidden in the Philippines. Bix Weir reckons there's MILLIONS OF TONS hidden in the Grand Canyon, the Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range and in national parks in (mostly) the west of the US. And who knows how much is help privately by individuals and temples in India, Burma, Thailand, Laos etc? Bitcoin, however, has ABSOLUTE scarcity. There can never be MOAR than 21 million Bitcoins. Bitcoin will be the absolute "store of value" for the future. It appears that you have never heard of a Satoshi Say what? I own Bitcoin. I know what a Satoshi is. I want MOAR of them. More math solutions? Alpha numeric strings? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81921048 United States 05/21/2022 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83202271 In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold. Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years. Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment". Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack. Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you. I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit. Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold. Thats all. Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on. And with gold losing 30% on the spread. When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender? Everyone. Just like for thousands of years. Only for the last 80 years have people been deluded into preferring paper currency. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83101166 Canada 05/21/2022 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166 Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you. I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit. Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold. Thats all. Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on. And with gold losing 30% on the spread. When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender? Everyone. Just like for thousands of years. Only for the last 80 years have people been deluded into preferring paper currency. The only people who ever accepted it have been dead for 100 years. Society and technology MOVE FORWARD, not backwards. Never in history has technology moved backwards. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78835387 Canada 05/21/2022 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty obvious, really. KITCO is always talking down the PMs. I stopped watching their site years ago. They sell gold, you don’t suppress a market that your making you business in. You do if you're just a bankster tool, like KITCO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83118988 United States 05/21/2022 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gary Wagner says bonds paying 2% have taken the luster off of people holding gold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166 @14:00 He’s an honest man, hard to come by with these PM sellers. There is no upside to anything! Stocks down and going further down, bonds dodgy, gold down, crypto down, get nothing with money in the bank getting 2% (if you are lucky) when inflation is 8% effectively means you are loosing 6% of purchasing power on your money. There is currently no escape. It is very bad for everyone. |
Levski
User ID: 83161167 Bulgaria 05/21/2022 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135 Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment. He did that here. [link to www.mining.com (secure)] The article is from 2012 and in it he predicted a break through 1800. Which did happen briefly around that time, IIRC. No where does it say that gold would go above 2 100 and stay there. Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80372690 Germany 05/21/2022 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'All ll these lazy terms like bull run or bearish market got nothing to do with bulls running or bears. stupid. it's called sensationalism.' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73161030 'Thanks for revealing your ignorance.' Quoting:(OP) Qouting someone on the internet: 'Zynic, best before end (2022)' P-: |
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Luke The Duke
User ID: 82176835 United States 05/21/2022 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get. And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade? Gold is not really a reliable "store of value" because no-one knows (or is saying) exactly how much gold there is in the world. The Seagrave man and wife team of authors made a pretty watertight case in their book "Gold Warriors" concerning the MILLIONS OF TONS of "Yamashita's Gold" hidden in the Philippines. Bix Weir reckons there's MILLIONS OF TONS hidden in the Grand Canyon, the Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range and in national parks in (mostly) the west of the US. And who knows how much is help privately by individuals and temples in India, Burma, Thailand, Laos etc? Bitcoin, however, has ABSOLUTE scarcity. There can never be MOAR than 21 million Bitcoins. Bitcoin will be the absolute "store of value" for the future. If "absolute scarcity" is your reason for believing BitCoin has lasting value.... I have a few ass hairs you might be interested in. They're pretty damn scarce. Luke The Duke (Formerly Known as Lick) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79265847 United States 05/21/2022 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135 Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment. He did that here. [link to www.mining.com (secure)] The article is from 2012 and in it he predicted a break through 1800. Which did happen briefly around that time, IIRC. No where does it say that gold would go above 2 100 and stay there. When did gold go above $2100 and stay there for three years? I think you’re delusional. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80562797 United States 05/21/2022 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Bitcoin will, theoretically, be "mined" around the year 2140. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340663 However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be. I guess you don't pay attention to technology. The encryption will be broken, who knows how long but probably not longer than 5 years. Then everyone will flock to some other digital tulip bubble. People are fascinated with technology but refuse to see the darker side like endless re-hypothecation, tracking, etc. The more complex a system becomes to define some arbitrary value the more likely it is to a collapse as well. Gold is God's money because it's so simple a child can understand it. That and among many other things is what makes it valuable. It's simple, rare, easily refined into coins and bars, easily verified for purity, easily defined for purity standards, on and on. |
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