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Even Gold Bugs On KITCO NEWS Say Gold Has No Upside

 
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The last Bitcoin will, theoretically, be "mined" around the year 2140.

However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be.

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3 words

Store
Of
Value

also

Easy
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Carry
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80139959


That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get.
And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166




In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years.

Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment".

Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83202271


Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you.
I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit.
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well first, that's what I call "the man in the suit syndrome" You have a guy in a suit on TV (internet now) so you think he knows something.
combine that with
A large percentage of people want someone who knows something to tell them what's going to happen so they can do something and not be wrong.
after that, almost always, when everyone hates something, even the people who like it don't like it anymore, that's when it is time to buy. Business Week had a famous
Death of Equities" cover, on the damn cover of a whole magazine devoted to business, so it has to be right you know, in 1982, so 1982 would have been a terrible time to buy stocks. They had another cover about something after that. Dead wrong. Search "Business Week cover indicator".
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The last Bitcoin will, theoretically, be "mined" around the year 2140.

However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be.

5a
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I'll go out on a limb, we'll be dead so we won't know, in 2140 Bitcoin will have been gone for decades.
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well first, that's what I call "the man in the suit syndrome" You have a guy in a suit on TV (internet now) so you think he knows something.
combine that with
A large percentage of people want someone who knows something to tell them what's going to happen so they can do something and not be wrong.
after that, almost always, when everyone hates something, even the people who like it don't like it anymore, that's when it is time to buy. Business Week had a famous
Death of Equities" cover, on the damn cover of a whole magazine devoted to business, so it has to be right you know, in 1982, so 1982 would have been a terrible time to buy stocks. They had another cover about something after that. Dead wrong. Search "Business Week cover indicator".
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He’s been an analyst for over 25 years and he puts himself out there unlike you, the internet stranger.
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Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear.

Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135


KITCO LITERALLY SELLS GOLD, what the hell are you talking about?
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Sooo

Look at all these banks selling financial instruments and still doing their part to crash the system.

Just because someone sells gold doesn't make them legit or honest.

I've held gold since the 90s and BTC since 2013. I see where both are valuable.

I get tired of seeing PM giys and Crypto guys duking it out.

BOTH have their place in protecting wealth in SHTF.
"She isn't real.....I can't make her real"

"Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder"

"The World is a business Mr Beale..."

"You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......"

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Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear.

Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135


KITCO LITERALLY SELLS GOLD, what the hell are you talking about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166



Sooo

Look at all these banks selling financial instruments and still doing their part to crash the system.

Just because someone sells gold doesn't make them legit or honest.

I've held gold since the 90s and BTC since 2013. I see where both are valuable.

I get tired of seeing PM giys and Crypto guys duking it out.

BOTH have their place in protecting wealth in SHTF.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


What?
Banks don’t sell financial instruments and say they have no upside while they’re selling it to you.
Just Passing Through.....
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3 words

Store
Of
Value

also

Easy
To
Carry
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80139959


That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get.
And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166




In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years.

Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment".

Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83202271


Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you.
I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166



Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold.

Thats all.

Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on.
"She isn't real.....I can't make her real"

"Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder"

"The World is a business Mr Beale..."

"You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......"

ENFJ
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That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get.
And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166




In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years.

Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment".

Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83202271


Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you.
I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166



Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold.

Thats all.

Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


And with gold losing 30% on the spread.
When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender?
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Gold will rocket at the point when peoples confidence in money becomes low.

When the price in money gets too high to be a viable solution, people will seek gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73161030


Not according to Gary Wagner.
He says, best case, one more leg up to about $2250 in the second quarter of next year and then a multi year BEAR MARKET for gold.
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Good is going into a bear market as we enter a period of hyperinflation.

Sure.
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Gold will rocket at the point when peoples confidence in money becomes low.

When the price in money gets too high to be a viable solution, people will seek gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73161030


Not according to Gary Wagner.
He says, best case, one more leg up to about $2250 in the second quarter of next year and then a multi year BEAR MARKET for gold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


Good is going into a bear market as we enter a period of hyperinflation.

Sure.
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Watch the video.
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Central banks buy gold. I think they know where things are going.
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Central banks buy gold. I think they know where things are going.
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And what are they going to do with it?
Put it on their balance sheet to balance out the tens of trillions in bad debt instruments?
They would never have enough.
Central banks are dying and so is the fake value of gold.
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That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get.
And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


Gold is not really a reliable "store of value" because no-one knows (or is saying) exactly how much gold there is in the world.

The Seagrave man and wife team of authors made a pretty watertight case in their book "Gold Warriors" concerning the MILLIONS OF TONS of "Yamashita's Gold" hidden in the Philippines.

Bix Weir reckons there's MILLIONS OF TONS hidden in the Grand Canyon, the Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range and in national parks in (mostly) the west of the US.

And who knows how much is help privately by individuals and temples in India, Burma, Thailand, Laos etc?

Bitcoin, however, has ABSOLUTE scarcity. There can never be MOAR than 21 million Bitcoins.

Bitcoin will be the absolute "store of value" for the future.

drevil
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It appears that you have never heard of a Satoshi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32227873


Say what?

I own Bitcoin.

I know what a Satoshi is.

I want MOAR of them.

drevil
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More math solutions? Alpha numeric strings?
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KITCO? lol is controlled opposition.

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In the 1920's, you could buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

In 2022, you can buy a high quality suit and shoes for 1 oz. of gold.

Unlike cash, gold has maintained it's value over the last hundred years.

Gold is a STORE of value. It is not an "investment".

Bitcoin can lose 100% of it's "value" at the flash of an EMP, or alleged cyber attack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83202271


Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you.
I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166



Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold.

Thats all.

Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


And with gold losing 30% on the spread.
When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265847


Everyone.

Just like for thousands of years.

Only for the last 80 years have people been deluded into preferring paper currency.
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Take an ounce of gold to Men’s Warehouse and see what that gets you.
I’ll take cashapp and pay with .06 Bitcoin and walk out with a suit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166



Gold is the same except it takes one more step in going to a LCS and selling your ounce of gold.

Thats all.

Crypto though is convenient as long as the lights are on.
 Quoting: Just Passing Through.....


And with gold losing 30% on the spread.
When the lights go out, who is going to take your good chips as legal tender?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79265847


Everyone.

Just like for thousands of years.

Only for the last 80 years have people been deluded into preferring paper currency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81921048


The only people who ever accepted it have been dead for 100 years.
Society and technology MOVE FORWARD, not backwards.
Never in history has technology moved backwards.
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KITCO? lol is controlled opposition.

epiclol
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It's pretty obvious, really.

KITCO is always talking down the PMs. I stopped watching their site years ago.

pennywise
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KITCO? lol is controlled opposition.

epiclol
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It's pretty obvious, really.

KITCO is always talking down the PMs. I stopped watching their site years ago.

pennywise
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They sell gold, you don’t suppress a market that your making you business in.
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KITCO? lol is controlled opposition.

epiclol
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It's pretty obvious, really.

KITCO is always talking down the PMs. I stopped watching their site years ago.

pennywise
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They sell gold, you don’t suppress a market that your making you business in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


You do if you're just a bankster tool, like KITCO.

5a
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Gary Wagner says bonds paying 2% have taken the luster off of people holding gold.
@14:00
He’s an honest man, hard to come by with these PM sellers.


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Do they actually hold any fucking physical gold, gold US constitutional money? From their looks No! Tards!
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Gary Wagner says bonds paying 2% have taken the luster off of people holding gold.
@14:00
He’s an honest man, hard to come by with these PM sellers.


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There is no upside to anything! Stocks down and going further down, bonds dodgy, gold down, crypto down, get nothing with money in the bank getting 2% (if you are lucky) when inflation is 8% effectively means you are loosing 6% of purchasing power on your money. There is currently no escape. It is very bad for everyone.
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Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear.

Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135


He did that here.

[link to www.mining.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


The article is from 2012 and in it he predicted a break through 1800.
Which did happen briefly around that time, IIRC.

No where does it say that gold would go above 2 100 and stay there.
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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Wait for the last bull to turn.
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'All ll these lazy terms like bull run or bearish market got nothing to do with bulls running or bears. stupid.

it's called sensationalism.'
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'Thanks for revealing your ignorance.' Quoting:(OP)

Qouting someone on the internet: 'Zynic, best before end (2022)'


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OP IS SCHILLING BONDS WITH DECADE HIGH INLFATION AND BITCOIN.

NOUGH SAID.
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3 words

Store
Of
Value

also

Easy
To
Carry
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80139959


That’s Bitcoin, try carrying gold across the border, see how far you get.
And how is it a store of value when it’s losing value for a decade?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


Gold is not really a reliable "store of value" because no-one knows (or is saying) exactly how much gold there is in the world.

The Seagrave man and wife team of authors made a pretty watertight case in their book "Gold Warriors" concerning the MILLIONS OF TONS of "Yamashita's Gold" hidden in the Philippines.

Bix Weir reckons there's MILLIONS OF TONS hidden in the Grand Canyon, the Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range and in national parks in (mostly) the west of the US.

And who knows how much is help privately by individuals and temples in India, Burma, Thailand, Laos etc?

Bitcoin, however, has ABSOLUTE scarcity. There can never be MOAR than 21 million Bitcoins.

Bitcoin will be the absolute "store of value" for the future.

drevil
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If "absolute scarcity" is your reason for believing BitCoin has lasting value.... I have a few ass hairs you might be interested in. They're pretty damn scarce.
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Tell me he predicted the runup from 1200 to 2100 in 3 years and then he might have some credibility. Otherwise he's just another permabear.

Kitco isn't a gold bug site. They represent the big banker establishment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83340135


He did that here.

[link to www.mining.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83101166


The article is from 2012 and in it he predicted a break through 1800.
Which did happen briefly around that time, IIRC.

No where does it say that gold would go above 2 100 and stay there.
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When did gold go above $2100 and stay there for three years?
I think you’re delusional.
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The last Bitcoin will, theoretically, be "mined" around the year 2140.

However, it is estimated that something like 3 to 4 million BTC have already been lost forever due to people dying, losing their private keys etc. so it will be even more scarce than Nakamoto thought it would be.

5a
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I guess you don't pay attention to technology. The encryption will be broken, who knows how long but probably not longer than 5 years.

Then everyone will flock to some other digital tulip bubble. People are fascinated with technology but refuse to see the darker side like endless re-hypothecation, tracking, etc.

The more complex a system becomes to define some arbitrary value the more likely it is to a collapse as well.

Gold is God's money because it's so simple a child can understand it. That and among many other things is what makes it valuable. It's simple, rare, easily refined into coins and bars, easily verified for purity, easily defined for purity standards, on and on.
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