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Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?

 
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Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?

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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The elect would never admit it
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The elect would never admit it
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Possibly or maybe they do not know that they are but just the same who will these people be?

Native Israel Only?

Church and Israel?

Tribulation Saints?

Other?
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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


The elect are the chosen. The faithful believers. The ones given to the Son by the Father. The ones that are signed and sealed and will be delivered because it was decided to be so before anything existed. The ones He died for on the cross.
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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


The elect are the chosen. The faithful believers. The ones given to the Son by the Father. The ones that are signed and sealed and will be delivered because it was decided to be so before anything existed. The ones He died for on the cross.
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Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

So do you think they are the 2 Witnesses, 144K, All believers, Those taken up in the rapture, Tribulation Saints, etc. ?
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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


The elect are the chosen. The faithful believers. The ones given to the Son by the Father. The ones that are signed and sealed and will be delivered because it was decided to be so before anything existed. The ones He died for on the cross.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82811481


Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

So do you think they are the 2 Witnesses, 144K, All believers, Those taken up in the rapture, Tribulation Saints, etc. ?
 Quoting: Achduke7


All the believers or to say all those who will ever believe have believed and I don't believe the rapture is scriptural personally. That didn't come about until the late 1800s with Scofield. I believe that to be a gross misinterpretation that grew under the very recent fundamental dispensationalism we see.
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The Elect will be the chosen ones who will still preach GOD'S WORD boldly and unapologetically. GOD"S Word is the seal in their foreheads. GOD will put His Words in their mouths like in The Bible.
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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


The elect are the chosen. The faithful believers. The ones given to the Son by the Father. The ones that are signed and sealed and will be delivered because it was decided to be so before anything existed. The ones He died for on the cross.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82811481


Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

So do you think they are the 2 Witnesses, 144K, All believers, Those taken up in the rapture, Tribulation Saints, etc. ?
 Quoting: Achduke7


All the believers or to say all those who will ever believe have believed and I don't believe the rapture is scriptural personally. That didn't come about until the late 1800s with Scofield. I believe that to be a gross misinterpretation that grew under the very recent fundamental dispensationalism we see.
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Call it harpazo then. Who do you think the elect are?
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The Elect will be the chosen ones who will still preach GOD'S WORD boldly and unapologetically. GOD"S Word is the seal in their foreheads. GOD will put His Words in their mouths like in The Bible.
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Are the elect taken in the Harpazo also?
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When I first got into Gods word, I used to think that elect meant the elected and that meant people in positions of influence like governing figures of politics. But as it becane more apparent, many of those figures are controlled by the illuminati and do satans bidding helping bring about the one world government.


The other thought is as other posters mentioned, those whose turned to God
In Hosea 4:6 we are told:

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children

Connected? I dont know. From the small Christian's I do know, many are tuned into satans TV show so are being fed a false narrative and are being entertained by shows that perform all the acts God wishes us not to participate in such as hatred to our fellow brother in the news, drama, back biting, whispering etc orchestrated in reality tv shows, violence, materialism, lust etc etc.

Are we not told to turn to God with our troubles? Then imagine my surprise to see the head of church of England archbishop welby declare that Jesus would want us to take the vaccine.... welby obviously has strong ties to the queen who in turn has strong ties to the rothschilds and you can see where that chain leads to. Is it that many have put there trust in man and not on God?

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Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Who do you think the elect are?
 Quoting: Achduke7


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Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
That's easy.

The Elect are the ones who not fooled.
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The Elect will be the chosen ones who will still preach GOD'S WORD boldly and unapologetically. GOD"S Word is the seal in their foreheads. GOD will put His Words in their mouths like in The Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46960637


Are the elect taken in the Harpazo also?
 Quoting: Achduke7


In the days of old when a King would visit a city or kingdom as he got to within a certain range many would greet him there and travel the rest of the way in with him. Lind of like the rolling out of the red carpet on the tarmac when a dignitary arrives in your country. They're greeted on the tarmac and then brought in. I believe this is what is being illustrated in the scriptures regarding harpazo.

God's kingdom is here, His kingdom will come. His faithful will endure to the end. They will be persecuted and endure the tribulation and will suffer as He suffered. Taking up His cross does not mean you get to avoid the pain and heartache of tribulation. I think it's human nature to read that into the scriptures and preferred so people commit isogesis instead of exegesis with these particular passages. My take anyway.
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
*are not
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
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The Elect will be the chosen ones who will still preach GOD'S WORD boldly and unapologetically. GOD"S Word is the seal in their foreheads. GOD will put His Words in their mouths like in The Bible.
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Are the elect taken in the Harpazo also?
 Quoting: Achduke7


Did Christ say in the verse you quoted above they would be? No. The person who posted about the Scofield Bible and the gross misinterpretation thereof is correct and in agreement with my Theology professor who spent over fifty years of his life translating The Bible.
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The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
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The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
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do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
That's easy.

The Elect are the ones who not fooled.
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Ah, but the OPs passage says about deceiving the elect if that were possible...
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The children of God, Romans 8. They are a small flock.
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
If it were possible, it's not for they have the Holy Spirit of Father God to discern.
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The one's who are not afraid of the guillotine
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83334834


do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


No, I do not.

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Again, in your opinion pr thus sayeth You?
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“whatsoever is not simple ~~ easily understood ~~

is ‘false’ and therefore not the truth!”

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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83334834


do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


How do you mean by that statement? Just curious. In the following passages we told:


While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 corinthians 4:18


For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11


Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 john 2:15


He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
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5 star post. OP is wide awake!
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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Where in the Bible is "Arnold Ehret".
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They had not decieved the elect who had awoken from 40 years wilderness for sure.

Enoch the Lord God of Hosts and Holy One of Israel, blessed be He! is the elect one.

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And Jesus departed from the temple and went away. And his disciples approached him, so as to show him the buildings of the temple.

But he said to them in response: “Do you see all these things? Amen I say to you, there shall not remain here stone upon stone, which is not torn down.”

Then, when he was seated at the Mount of Olives, the disciples drew near to him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of your advent and of the consummation of the age?”

And answering, Jesus said to them: “Pay attention, lest someone lead you astray.

For many will come in my name saying, ‘I am the [Church of] Christ.’ And they will lead many astray.

For you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Take care not to be disturbed. For these things must be, but the end is not so soon.

For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be pestilences, and famines, and earthquakes in divers[ity] places.

But all these things are just the beginning of the sorrows.

Then they will hand you over to tribulation, and they will kill you. And you will be hated by all nations for the sake of my name.

And then many will be led into sin, and will betray one another, and will have hatred for one another.

And many false prophets will arise, and they will lead many astray.

And because iniquity has abounded, the charity of many will grow cold.

But whoever will have persevered until the end, the same shall be saved.

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached throughout the entire world, as a testimony to all nations. And then the consummation will occur.

Therefore, when you will have seen the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place, may he who reads understand,

then those who are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains.

And whoever is on the rooftop, let him not descend to take anything from his house.

And whoever is in the field, let him not turn back to take his tunic.

So then, woe to those who are pregnant or nursing in those days.

But pray that your flight may not be in winter, or on the Sabbath.

For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until the present, and such as will not be.

And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days shall be shortened.

Then if anyone will have said to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘he is there,’ do not be willing to believe it.

For there will arise false Christs and false prophets. And they will produce great signs and wonders, so much so as to lead into error even the elect (if this could be).

Behold, I have warned you beforehand.

Therefore, if they will have said to you, ‘Behold, he is in the desert,’ do not choose to go out, or, ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not be willing to believe it.

For just as lightning goes out from the east, and appears even in the west, so shall it be also at the advent of the Son of man [Elijah the prophet].

Wherever the body shall be, there also will the eagles [ZWO & Elite] be gathered together.

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

And then the sign of the Son of man [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] shall appear in heaven. And then all tribes of the earth shall mourn. And they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven, with great power and majesty.

And he shall send out his Angels with a trumpet and a great voice. And they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the heights of the heavens, even to their furthest limits.

So, from the fig tree learn a parable. When its branch has now become tender and the leaves have sprung forth, you know that summer is near.

So also, when you will have seen all these things, know that it is near, even at the threshold.

Amen I say to you, that this lineage shall not pass away, until all these things have been done.

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

But concerning that day and hour, no one knows, not even the Angels of the heavens, but only the Father.

And just as in the days of Noah, so also will be the advent of the Son of man [Elijah the prophet].

For it will be just as it was in the days before the flood: eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, even until that day when Noah entered into the ark.

And they did not realize it, until the flood came and took them all away. So also will the advent of the Son of man be.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken up, and the other shall be left behind.

Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left behind.

Therefore, be vigilant. For you do not know at what hour your Lord will return.

But know this: if only the father of the family knew at what hour the thief would arrive, he would certainly keep vigil and not permit his house to be broken into.

For this reason, you also must be prepared, for you do not know at what hour the Son of man [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] will return.

Consider this: who is a faithful and prudent servant, who has been appointed by his lord over his family, to give them their portion in due time?

Blessed is that servant, if, when his lord has arrived, he shall find him doing so.

Amen I say to you, he shall appoint him over all of his goods.

But if that evil servant has said in his heart, ‘My lord has been delayed in returning,’

and so, he begins to strike his fellow servants, and he eats and drinks with the inebriated:

then the lord of that servant will arrive on a day that he does not expect, and at an hour that he does not know.

And he shall separate him, and he shall place his portion with the hypocrites, where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” - Lord Jesus in Matthew 24:1-51
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Where in the Bible is "Arnold Ehret".
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who cares? do you disagree? If so, why?
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
The elect are those who choose life and abhor death and destruction. They are really not *chosen* but rather those who *choose.*
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


In your opinion

or thus sayeth You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83334834


do you have a problem with choosing life over death?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


How do you mean by that statement? Just curious. In the following passages we told:


While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 corinthians 4:18


For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11


Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 john 2:15


He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39
 Quoting: Little Lost


Exactly to Cor 4:18.

Phil 1:21 to live is to attain the higher consciousness of Christ, and before you can do that we must die to our "self" which is mind/ego.

Rev. 12:11..... not worth going there at this time.

1 John 2:15 .... yes. What I said regarding Phil 1:21.

Matthew 10:39 ~ Once we have found the life in Christ, we no longer seek life through the mind/ego.

It's learning to live through the heart rather than the mind that gives us life, and life more abundantly.
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Re: Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?
Because what's in the Bible is not easily understood. It must be spiritually discerned and not with the carnal mind.





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