Matthew 24:24 Whom are the elect?

Dont take offence to what I have written. I just dont believe we will become godlike with christ consciousness. Who's to say I'm right? I'm not saying you are intentionally deceiving anyone and I dont mean to cause you upset. You asked what it was I questioned and I responded with christ consciousness. I explained why and as you have expressed, you've arrived at your conclusions with the journey you have taken. I place faith in my belief through what you have illustrated via personal experience. I'm not calling you out on anything, just asking what your understanding of what you've written and what you believe that represents. I have admitted one can be filled with the holy spirit although I dont claim to be worthy so.

That's what I told them at beginning of thread. Those that believe and ever eill believe, aka the ones whose Jesus died for on the cross.

Amazing how that is difficult to realize when the scripture is extremely precise and clear about it, not to mention redundant on.

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No scripture states that Jesus returns more than once.

No scripture states that Believers will miss End Times Tribulation.

No scripture states that the 'church' goes to Heaven.

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Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it.

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WRONG! heh heh heh.. imagine John the Baptist said that..

GOD BLESS! Nay.. I'll add wisdom of knowledge and understanding to remind what the Spirit already knows.

GODSPEED! Nay.. I'll blessed my God and others instead.

For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. - 2 John 1:11



How can I know this if I don’t “know it”? (Do You understand the question?)

Yes. And the answer is that it is possible for you to know, and yet not “know that you know.”

Could You explain that further, please?

In life, there appear to be those who do not know, and who do not know that they do not know. They are as children. Nurture them.

Then there appear to be those who do not know, and who know that they do not know. They are willing. Teach them.

Then there appear to be those who do not know, but who think that they know. They are dangerous. Avoid them.

Then there appear to be those who know, but who do not know that they know. They are asleep. Wake them.

Then there appear to be those who know, but who pretend that they do not know. They are actors. Enjoy them.

Then there appear to be those who know, and who know that they know. Do not follow them. For if they know that they know, they would not have you follow them. Yet listen very carefully to what they have to say, for they will remind you of what you know. Indeed, that is why they have been sent to you. That is why you have called them to you.

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Thank you my english teacher. ;) Title corrected.

Interesting notion. Belief is personal faith and faith in that which is unseen. God gave us free will. Do I believe the bible is correct? Yes, but that is my belief. How ever mystery quoter, you dont seem to have an unhealthy association with this demonic clown imagery you keep posting. What's your thoughts?.. without copying and pasting.

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Jeremiah says you are worthy.

my understanding of what I write and what that represents........ hmmmmmmm

I've tried to explain already, I'm not sure what else I can say in this thread

I'll summarize it this way.

Mark Chapter 12
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

And not to derail this conversation even, but the original hebrews language takes the second commandment deeper than what we have in the English.

My knowing of the realization of these two commandments is this:

the 2d) command ..... Love ALL creation as yourself. All creation, not just your fellow human.

to do this we must master the egoic mind and learn to live and listen through the heart. ONLY when we are able to do this, are we able to hear the Father's voice whispering through our heart. And THEN, we are ONE. Through the Way as given to us by Yashua.

My miss conception is my understanding of christ consciousness and that being having the mind of Jesus or the heavinly father whilst on this plane of existence so maybe that's where I'm getting my wires crossed. I've longed declare that I am well aware that the elite have voice to skull technology so I would question anything coming in to my mind. However, there was this one time I was in a situation I didnt fully understand. Suddenly a 'thought' popped into my head that said 'you need more wisdom'. Now that felt like a foreign thought because it certainly wasnt in line with what I was thinking at the time. Wisdom is not a word I used often and as I have discovered, wisdom is used in the bible and I often wonder, was I getting a little nudge to reconsider what I was doing. I acted upon on the advice and went home!

Course you cannot see the subconcious of the soul, let alone superconscious of the Spirit with the optical vision of your human conscious eyes and isn't beauty within the eyes of the beholder?.



"Call unto me, and I will hear thee: and I will shew thee great things, and sure things which thou knowest not:" - Jeremiah 33:3

Surprise, surprise Heaven comes to earth (Revelation 21). Most religion is clueless.

There you go!!!

Be discerning, but don't let fear stand in your way.

ACHDUkE and Christian or Bible readers:



the events in Matthew 1-34 were supposed to have happened all
IN THE DISCIPLES GENERATION. either they did or the bible is lying.

that includes

Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’




Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.


ITS THE END OF AN AGE.

it was possibly whatever is before Pisces (although I dont know much about those sky signs).

a generation is 20-25 years.

an age might be around 2000-2500 years.

What is with the demonic imagery??

They will surely think themselves unworthy.

What is going to happen during the tribulation will be the worst time in human history and more horrible than any time moving forward in the future of humanity. Picking up your cross means your daily walk with God, spreading the gospel, and repenting. God did not appoint his people for wrath, especially the worst wrath he’ll ever allow on humanity. The rapture is biblical and God’s word. Not believing in the rapture of Christ rescuing his body could result in one being left behind. He asks us to pray to escape these trials, not doubt him. I’d tread lightly on this subject and not deceive yourself.

God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thessalonians 5:9

Like 12:32 addresses the small flock Jesus is speaking of.

Luke 12:32.

The harpazo is true. The rapture doctrine is false. The harpazo is part of the resurrection. The Dead(Rising First) is the resurrection and happens before the living. There is only one resurrection of the just.

As for wrath we are not subject to wrath. First tribulation and then wrath. The wrath happens after the 6th seal as noted in Revelation.

This is not a new age thread. Do you have anything to contribute about the elect?

Where does it say in the disciples generation? Jesus is talking about the generation of the fig tree.

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

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You haven’t actually studied the word Harpazo in the Bible and it’s origins. It most definitely refers to the rapture as it alludes to 5 different times in the Bible when people were physically raptured or taken from one place to another whether it be to heaven or to another place on earth. As I said above, I think you need to study this because you’re deceived. I started a thread on, you can read it here. Let me know if you have any questions, the source I used regarding the word Harpazo and it’s origin, usuagr, and literal meaning aren’t up for debate and dates back to the Latin Vulgate before the AKJV. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thread: Harpazo, the Rapture is real and let’s just clear this up once and for all

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The above will clear up any confusion you have.

Only once in the bible in 1 Th 4:17 does harpazo denote what everyone calls the rapture but looking at 1 Th 4:14 and 1 th 4:16 we can see this is in the context of the resurrection!

Rise and Rose from the Dead is the resurrection.

1 TH 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

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matthew chapter 24 verse 1 (talking to his disciples)


" Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings."

he continues speaking to disciples in the next verses.

matthew chapter 24 v 34:

"Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."


the whole chapter is about destruction of temple and sign of end of times (ages: verse 3) not necessarly the end of the world.

either way it was in their generation.

when he says this generation he means JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES generation. not the year 2022 or 1700 or 2500.

Except he does not bring up the generation until the parable of the fig tree and they were not part of that parable.

The Events Jesus spoke of span more then a generation.

They asked many questions that he covered.

Then Jesus tells them that no one knows when this will happen not even himself.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

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That the trouble isn't it? soul do not leave heaven ot get to another heaven, so where do rapture stand?.

That right, raptured from heaven!.

Anyway.. how many enforced volunteer raptured souls are there apart from mankind?.

So do you understand the living and the dead?.

Moses said, “By this you shall know that Charlie has sent me to do all these deeds; for this is not my doing. If these men die the death of all men or if they suffer the fate of all men, then Charlie has not sent me. But if Charlie brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol, then you will understand that these men have spurned Charlie.”

As he finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah with their possessions. So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly. All Israel who were around them fled at their outcry, for they said, “The earth may swallow us up!” - Numbers 16:28-34



Therefore Sheol has enlarged its throat and opened its mouth without measure; and Jerusalem’s splendour, her multitude, her din of revelry and the jubilant within her, descend into it. - Isaiah 5:14