The Mystery of the Essenes | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80376576 United States 05/21/2022 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been a long time since I really delved in to the dead Sea Scrolld so I just make some general comparisions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76934752 I've found no phrophecy in the Dead Sea Scrolls talking about Jesus' death in 32ad The Essenes were let back in to Jerusalem after centuries on banishment by Herod. The told Herod he would be King and it came true. There's a very good chance the Essenes were, in some part, the Herodians Jesus admonished the Essenes many times-The Essenes were a secret society. They few Essenes were let in. This was contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus taught the opposite The Essenes taught to kill your enemies, Jesus said to forgive them There are so many more examples that show the Essenes hated Jesus. The nailing to a tree was very much an Essene form of punishment, but only for one transgression. Being a traitor. It's quite possible John the Baptists was an ex Essenes though. Many of Jesus's teachings appear to admonish the Essenes, and a few seem to praise them. They weren't predicting a Messiah like Jesus to appear. They were expecting a Messiah to come with vengeance. The teacher(or what he was referred to, who was nailed to a tree was 150 years before Christ. It's clear in the scrolls. Like I said, it's been a long time since I studied this so I'm not really going in to detail here whhaaaaaaaaaaaa????????? you better get back to taking another look |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76934752 Czechia 05/21/2022 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been a long time since I really delved in to the dead Sea Scrolld so I just make some general comparisions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76934752 I've found no phrophecy in the Dead Sea Scrolls talking about Jesus' death in 32ad The Essenes were let back in to Jerusalem after centuries on banishment by Herod. The told Herod he would be King and it came true. There's a very good chance the Essenes were, in some part, the Herodians Jesus admonished the Essenes many times-The Essenes were a secret society. They few Essenes were let in. This was contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus taught the opposite The Essenes taught to kill your enemies, Jesus said to forgive them There are so many more examples that show the Essenes hated Jesus. The nailing to a tree was very much an Essene form of punishment, but only for one transgression. Being a traitor. It's quite possible John the Baptists was an ex Essenes though. Many of Jesus's teachings appear to admonish the Essenes, and a few seem to praise them. They weren't predicting a Messiah like Jesus to appear. They were expecting a Messiah to come with vengeance. The teacher(or what he was referred to, who was nailed to a tree was 150 years before Christ. It's clear in the scrolls. Like I said, it's been a long time since I studied this so I'm not really going in to detail here I call your bluff. People here just have to watch the video. Don't need to watch a video. I've read the scrolls and many scholarly books on the Essenes from Christians authors to historical researchers It's likely the Essenes, at the very least, were allied with the Herodians Find me one thing in Gue-ish law at the time that used nailing to a tree as a punishment. It was only the Essenes. The Essenes were a SECRET SOCIETY. THAT IS FACT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80376576 United States 05/21/2022 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been a long time since I really delved in to the dead Sea Scrolld so I just make some general comparisions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76934752 I've found no phrophecy in the Dead Sea Scrolls talking about Jesus' death in 32ad The Essenes were let back in to Jerusalem after centuries on banishment by Herod. The told Herod he would be King and it came true. There's a very good chance the Essenes were, in some part, the Herodians Jesus admonished the Essenes many times-The Essenes were a secret society. They few Essenes were let in. This was contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus taught the opposite The Essenes taught to kill your enemies, Jesus said to forgive them There are so many more examples that show the Essenes hated Jesus. The nailing to a tree was very much an Essene form of punishment, but only for one transgression. Being a traitor. It's quite possible John the Baptists was an ex Essenes though. Many of Jesus's teachings appear to admonish the Essenes, and a few seem to praise them. They weren't predicting a Messiah like Jesus to appear. They were expecting a Messiah to come with vengeance. The teacher(or what he was referred to, who was nailed to a tree was 150 years before Christ. It's clear in the scrolls. Like I said, it's been a long time since I studied this so I'm not really going in to detail here I call your bluff. People here just have to watch the video. Don't need to watch a video. I've read the scrolls and many scholarly books on the Essenes from Christians authors to historical researchers It's likely the Essenes, at the very least, were allied with the Herodians Find me one thing in Gue-ish law at the time that used nailing to a tree as a punishment. It was only the Essenes. The Essenes were a SECRET SOCIETY. THAT IS FACT ^^^ THIS ^^^ is a picture perfect of what happens when we read selectively from rewritten history given to us to suit an agenda. Excellent information to be aware of. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76934752 Czechia 05/21/2022 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been a long time since I really delved in to the dead Sea Scrolld so I just make some general comparisions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76934752 I've found no phrophecy in the Dead Sea Scrolls talking about Jesus' death in 32ad The Essenes were let back in to Jerusalem after centuries on banishment by Herod. The told Herod he would be King and it came true. There's a very good chance the Essenes were, in some part, the Herodians Jesus admonished the Essenes many times-The Essenes were a secret society. They few Essenes were let in. This was contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus taught the opposite The Essenes taught to kill your enemies, Jesus said to forgive them There are so many more examples that show the Essenes hated Jesus. The nailing to a tree was very much an Essene form of punishment, but only for one transgression. Being a traitor. It's quite possible John the Baptists was an ex Essenes though. Many of Jesus's teachings appear to admonish the Essenes, and a few seem to praise them. They weren't predicting a Messiah like Jesus to appear. They were expecting a Messiah to come with vengeance. The teacher(or what he was referred to, who was nailed to a tree was 150 years before Christ. It's clear in the scrolls. Like I said, it's been a long time since I studied this so I'm not really going in to detail here I call your bluff. People here just have to watch the video. Don't need to watch a video. I've read the scrolls and many scholarly books on the Essenes from Christians authors to historical researchers It's likely the Essenes, at the very least, were allied with the Herodians Find me one thing in Gue-ish law at the time that used nailing to a tree as a punishment. It was only the Essenes. The Essenes were a SECRET SOCIETY. THAT IS FACT ^^^ THIS ^^^ is a picture perfect of what happens when we read selectively from rewritten history given to us to suit an agenda. Excellent information to be aware of. Thank you. As opposed to a video? Does he go through all the scrolls? I'm pretty sure he picks and chooses. I've read the scrolls. Maybe you should too. I BELIEVE THE SCROLLS SUPPORT AND GIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE NT IS TRUE. Just not the way they are being described here. I've said my opinion. If you want to counter any of it, please do. Until then all you say is watch a video. I'll pass. I know how the scrolls can be twisted to support anything you want. You need to research who the Essenes were. Why they were banished. Why Herod let them back in. The vast differences between what Jesus taught and what the Essenes taught. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80376576 United States 05/21/2022 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't need to watch a video. I've read the scrolls and many scholarly books on the Essenes from Christians authors to historical researchers It's likely the Essenes, at the very least, were allied with the Herodians Find me one thing in Gue-ish law at the time that used nailing to a tree as a punishment. It was only the Essenes. The Essenes were a SECRET SOCIETY. THAT IS FACT ^^^ THIS ^^^ is a picture perfect of what happens when we read selectively from rewritten history given to us to suit an agenda. Excellent information to be aware of. Thank you. As opposed to a video? Does he go through all the scrolls? I'm pretty sure he picks and chooses. I've read the scrolls. Maybe you should too. I BELIEVE THE SCROLLS SUPPORT AND GIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE NT IS TRUE. Just not the way they are being described here. I've said my opinion. If you want to counter any of it, please do. Until then all you say is watch a video. I'll pass. I know how the scrolls can be twisted to support anything you want. You need to research who the Essenes were. Why they were banished. Why Herod let them back in. The vast differences between what Jesus taught and what the Essenes taught. sorry, don't have energy to engage with you. You've got a longgggggggggggg path ahead of you. Best of luck! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76934752 Czechia 05/21/2022 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't need to watch a video. I've read the scrolls and many scholarly books on the Essenes from Christians authors to historical researchers It's likely the Essenes, at the very least, were allied with the Herodians Find me one thing in Gue-ish law at the time that used nailing to a tree as a punishment. It was only the Essenes. The Essenes were a SECRET SOCIETY. THAT IS FACT ^^^ THIS ^^^ is a picture perfect of what happens when we read selectively from rewritten history given to us to suit an agenda. Excellent information to be aware of. Thank you. As opposed to a video? Does he go through all the scrolls? I'm pretty sure he picks and chooses. I've read the scrolls. Maybe you should too. I BELIEVE THE SCROLLS SUPPORT AND GIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE NT IS TRUE. Just not the way they are being described here. I've said my opinion. If you want to counter any of it, please do. Until then all you say is watch a video. I'll pass. I know how the scrolls can be twisted to support anything you want. You need to research who the Essenes were. Why they were banished. Why Herod let them back in. The vast differences between what Jesus taught and what the Essenes taught. So now the dead sea scrolls are scripture? They are essential to my salvation? A long path? You've countered nothing I've said, except watch a video. How about you read a book I'm not trying to be argumentative. I've said the Dead Sea Scrolls give evidence the NT is true. Not sure why the scrolls are essential to your salvation. |
Four Minutes to Omegaa
User ID: 80893977 Canada 05/21/2022 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Just†Me anything new in there? Genisis 3: God: WTF is going on here? Adam: The woman made me do it. Eve: It was the snake. Snake: Oh shit. and is the snake the Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy? hello? |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 80991125 United States 05/21/2022 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He wasn't a snake, though he was referred to as a serpent. "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
tamaracks User ID: 82351525 United States 05/21/2022 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A snake can talk but not in the ordinary sense of communicating. It is rather by projection; as in the psychological phenomenon. I've told this story here before, but it never gets old for me. My friend had dropped some acid and was tripping. According to his brother he had gone out to check his mail. While checking the mail he got into a serious argument with his mailbox. So, if your mailbox can talk, then it's no problem for a snake. -Likewise I've heard people say that things like a slot-machine talked to them. A friend was leaving the casino when a slot talked to him, so he put in some money and hit the jackpot. QED The snake story checks out! so what did the mailbox say? Apparently the mailbox told him something that he didn't like and he was calling it liar and so on for quite a while. His brother told me the story. I honestly don't know if the mailbox was lying or telling the hard truth. prob. the truth if it came from his subconscious. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78086396 Sweden 05/22/2022 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A snake can talk but not in the ordinary sense of communicating. It is rather by projection; as in the psychological phenomenon. I've told this story here before, but it never gets old for me. My friend had dropped some acid and was tripping. According to his brother he had gone out to check his mail. While checking the mail he got into a serious argument with his mailbox. So, if your mailbox can talk, then it's no problem for a snake. -Likewise I've heard people say that things like a slot-machine talked to them. A friend was leaving the casino when a slot talked to him, so he put in some money and hit the jackpot. QED The snake story checks out! so what did the mailbox say? Apparently the mailbox told him something that he didn't like and he was calling it liar and so on for quite a while. His brother told me the story. I honestly don't know if the mailbox was lying or telling the hard truth. prob. the truth if it came from his subconscious. yea how upright the mailbox was is really the question. |
BiblioPhile
User ID: 79656482 United States 05/22/2022 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genisis 3: God: WTF is going on here? Adam: The woman made me do it. Eve: It was the snake. Snake: Oh shit. do snakes even eat dirt? is a serpent really a worm? Snakes are serpents. Worms are serpents. Dragons are serpents. Unclean spirits are serpents. So-called demons are serpents. Adam, (mankind), is dust. And, if you've ever heard someone say, "a little voice inside my head said..."that would be the hiss of the serpent. "Be wary of mathematiciens, particularly when they speak the truth." - Augustine |
BiblioPhile
User ID: 79656482 United States 05/22/2022 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genisis 3: God: WTF is going on here? Adam: The woman made me do it. Eve: It was the snake. Snake: Oh shit. do snakes even eat dirt? is a serpent really a worm? Snakes are serpents. Worms are serpents. Dragons are serpents. Unclean spirits are serpents. So-called demons are serpents. Adam, (mankind), is dust. And, if you've ever heard someone say, "a little voice inside my head said..."that would be the hiss of the serpent. "Be wary of mathematiciens, particularly when they speak the truth." - Augustine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80376576 United States 05/23/2022 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Word of God is the truth that was present long before written texts and that has always been an essential part of man in his journey towards understanding; perfecting his conscience every day according to what he is capable of discerning. It is the true intention of creation, a voice that emanates from the sincere reflection of anyone. The Word of God can be seen in the exceptional deeds of men; sometimes it is embodied in books, and other times is transmitted by word of mouth, but it will never belong to a particular religion alone. That is the Word of God, beyond human patent, with no religion, present from the beginning and triumphant at the end. Only through a still and humble heart can one hear and understand the word of the Eternal One. This was the path of the Essenes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80376576 United States 05/23/2022 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Word of God is the truth that was present long before written texts and that has always been an essential part of man in his journey towards understanding; perfecting his conscience every day according to what he is capable of discerning. It is the true intention of creation, a voice that emanates from the sincere reflection of anyone. The Word of God can be seen in the exceptional deeds of men; sometimes it is embodied in books, and other times is transmitted by word of mouth, but it will never belong to a particular religion alone. That is the Word of God, beyond human patent, with no religion, present from the beginning and triumphant at the end. Quoting: Satya Revelations Only through a still and humble heart can one hear and understand the word of the Eternal One. This was the path of the Essenes. The Essenes were the first Gnostics. Damned as heretics back then, and now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43916469 United States 05/23/2022 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | alot... it lines up with christianity, both in theology and understanding of scripture. They have their own prophesies too written around year 2-300 before Christ, prophesying of his death on the cross in 32 AD. We can also know the OT has been preserved since its 1000 years older than the masoretic text. prophesies on Christ's death? oh so it's fake news. yea, OT has been distorted since a long time, I'm sure. you have to cling on to lies like that, without a shred of evidence ofcourse because all evidence proves the old testament is preserved and that Christ was crucified is one of the most certain facts of history (acording to secular scholars, see wiki article below), but if you were to admit that you cant be a muslim anymore. So you have to lie. Good luck with explaining that to God on judgement day. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] so christ was crucified at golgatha right, and golgatha means "the place of the skull" so where is the place of the skull? |
Just†Me
(OP) User ID: 79697702 Norway 05/23/2022 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Just†Me alot... it lines up with christianity, both in theology and understanding of scripture. They have their own prophesies too written around year 2-300 before Christ, prophesying of his death on the cross in 32 AD. We can also know the OT has been preserved since its 1000 years older than the masoretic text. prophesies on Christ's death? oh so it's fake news. yea, OT has been distorted since a long time, I'm sure. you have to cling on to lies like that, without a shred of evidence ofcourse because all evidence proves the old testament is preserved and that Christ was crucified is one of the most certain facts of history (acording to secular scholars, see wiki article below), but if you were to admit that you cant be a muslim anymore. So you have to lie. Good luck with explaining that to God on judgement day. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] so christ was crucified at golgatha right, and golgatha means "the place of the skull" so where is the place of the skull? [link to www.britannica.com (secure)] Just†Me recomends: Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com] |
The real savage
User ID: 82923235 Netherlands 05/23/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 was one of the most shocking archaeological discoveries in history. Even more amazing is the discovery of the ancient writings of the Essenes and their understanding of the Old Testament prophecies concerning the coming Messiah. How amazing is it to go back 2,000 years in time and read about the prophecies of the Messiah, fulfilled perfectly by Jesus Christ, even down to the very year of his crucifixion in 32AD! Quoting: Just†Me Essenes were conman and illusionists. Jesus went up to them and showed them some real ‘ magic ‘. If you really wanna know life , read Jacob Lorber. Can you abort God? |