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JUST IN - Active shooter reported at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas. 19 children, 2 teachers dead, 17 injured

 
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Because the grandfather, 72-year-old Rolando Reyes, is a felon, he cannot live in a house with firearms, according to the news outlet. If he had known, Reyes would have turned his grandson in, he told ABC News.

 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm not sure that I believe he didn't know.

According to the other articles, Ramos was sleeping on a mattress in the living room of the 850 sq. ft house.

I suppose he could have hid the guns, but I personally doubt that he bothered to, or that he needed to.
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Is that you Beto?
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Is that you, Greg?
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Still no liberal shooters. TRUMPTARD BANN THIS
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IT IS MODERN DAY LIBERALISM THAT CAUSED THIS.

The WW2 veterans were allowed to bring back captured hand-held machine guns and more people were rural before WW2. Where were all the shooters back then? Guns have been a part of rural America since the pioneer days.

Where were all the school shootings of the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s ???

The school shootings ARE CULTURAL and are a result of cultural decline - a decline in traditional morality/ethics. A decline in personal responsibility and respect for traditional values/norms.

The MORAL CODES that kept people aligned are now replaced with "progressivism" and the result is increasing disentegration and chaos.
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bump
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It is not the moral codes.

It is a product of reducing males to 9th class citizens in their own country.

That is all it is; that is all it will ever be.
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where does 18 year old get money for arms
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Especially on that worked at a Wendy's in an impoverished town.

Lots of questions.

Not likely credit. No bank will issue a CC to anyone under 18. He had only recently turned 18, and at Wendy's he would not have sufficient income to get a card, or at least not one with a limit over $250.
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Still no liberal shooters. TRUMPTARD BANN THIS
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IT IS MODERN DAY LIBERALISM THAT CAUSED THIS.

The WW2 veterans were allowed to bring back captured hand-held machine guns and more people were rural before WW2. Where were all the shooters back then? Guns have been a part of rural America since the pioneer days.

Where were all the school shootings of the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s ???

The school shootings ARE CULTURAL and are a result of cultural decline - a decline in traditional morality/ethics. A decline in personal responsibility and respect for traditional values/norms.

The MORAL CODES that kept people aligned are now replaced with "progressivism" and the result is increasing disentegration and chaos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82820830


bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79126914


It is not the moral codes.

It is a product of reducing males to 9th class citizens in their own country.

That is all it is; that is all it will ever be.
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Nations that prey upon their men and boys...and no nation ever preyed on their men and boys like Modern America...do not last.

Nor should they,
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Had that been Joe Citizen that stormed up there and made that outburst he would have been tackled to the ground by a dozen officers.
But I guess Beta Cuck O'Rourke gets a pass on a beat down after threatening the Governor.
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Reports on news is that police viewed suspect enter building with gun. They decided to wait for reinforcements before entering per protocol. The shooter barricaded himself within a classroom full of children and started shooting.

Backup help arrived and they entered the classroom 40 minutes after the shooter entered the classroom. I understand and agree with protocol but when shots started firing on innocent children, immediate entry should have occurred. If there were no shots or a room full of adults where they may have a chance of fighting back by rushing the shooter then maybe hold for support. However, with all children and maybe a teacher, they should have entered.

IMO

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...

That was my post you replied to. Why does contributing meaningful and insightful info to this thread lead me to have my ip banned? Anyone else have an issue with what I posted?
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??????

I did not ban you.
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I didn't say you did was just asking if I said something to have my ip banned?
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Sometimes the system is very sensitive with non allowed words.

I would not sweat it. I have posts get kicked out frequently because the system reads something I wrote as something else.
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Thanks seems like things are back to normal now..
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There is no organization on the earth more violent than the United States government.

That is the secret of their success.

When they bombed Iraq back to the Stone Age 18 years ago; they must have induced over a million casualties; and thousands and thousands of innocent little children.

So to see an American politician shed crocodile tears over this shooting in Texas makes me vomit.

The American Congress is guilty of such an incredible multitude of abominations (far beyond the single one I cited) that there is likely not a single member who does not deserve eternity in the Lake of Fire.
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Doesn't every 18 year old buy a Daniel Defense AR with the riches they make working at Wendy's? Asking for a friend.
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Re: JUST IN - Active shooter reported at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas. 19 children, 2 teachers dead, 17 injured
Another new update:

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Uvalde Live Updates: ‘I’m Going to Shoot an Elementary School,’ Gunman Posted Before Massacre

"The 18-year-old gunman stormed past an armed guard at a Texas school, carrying a rifle he had purchased days before the attack. At least 19 children and two teachers were killed before the gunman was shot by a Border Patrol agent."

So he stormed past an armed guard at the school?

So before he crashed his truck he knew he was going to that school to shoot it up?
 Quoting: MarkInMichigan


From my post above….


The killer, 18, started posting on Facebook “approximately 30 minutes before reaching the school,” Abbott said of the teen, who did not appear to have a criminal record.

“The first post .. said, ‘I’m going to shoot my grandmother.’

The second post was, ‘I shot my grandmother,'” Abbott said.

“The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was, ‘I’m going to shoot an elementary school.'”
 Quoting: ~kpm~


This stinks like shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82666998

Nobody has screenshots of his social media saying this? All I've seen were Instagram post of his guns and one picture of him that was posted and that's all
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You will not disarm me. Period. Give it up.
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Because the grandfather, 72-year-old Rolando Reyes, is a felon, he cannot live in a house with firearms, according to the news outlet. If he had known, Reyes would have turned his grandson in, he told ABC News.

 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm not sure that I believe he didn't know.

According to the other articles, Ramos was sleeping on a mattress in the living room of the 850 sq. ft house.

I suppose he could have hid the guns, but I personally doubt that he bothered to, or that he needed to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82467052


Nope, I think he’s lying from his video interview


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Doesn't every 18 year old buy a Daniel Defense AR with the riches they make working at Wendy's? Asking for a friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658862

Don't forget about the SA Saint and the 500 dollar EOTech too . Oh and the 375 rounds of ammo he purchased also.. hmmm oh yeah and the tact vest and multiple magazines. Add it all up and he's right around $5000 dollars.
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Another new update:

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

Uvalde Live Updates: ‘I’m Going to Shoot an Elementary School,’ Gunman Posted Before Massacre

"The 18-year-old gunman stormed past an armed guard at a Texas school, carrying a rifle he had purchased days before the attack. At least 19 children and two teachers were killed before the gunman was shot by a Border Patrol agent."

So he stormed past an armed guard at the school?

So before he crashed his truck he knew he was going to that school to shoot it up?
 Quoting: MarkInMichigan


From my post above….


The killer, 18, started posting on Facebook “approximately 30 minutes before reaching the school,” Abbott said of the teen, who did not appear to have a criminal record.

“The first post .. said, ‘I’m going to shoot my grandmother.’

The second post was, ‘I shot my grandmother,'” Abbott said.

“The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was, ‘I’m going to shoot an elementary school.'”
 Quoting: ~kpm~


This stinks like shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82666998

Nobody has screenshots of his social media saying this? All I've seen were Instagram post of his guns and one picture of him that was posted and that's all
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Nope, only what people caught before it was taken down, which doesn’t have these statements at all
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This whole thing stinks ... coincidentally in an election year ... I wouldn't be surprised if one or two more of these go down to push the purple parts of Texas even more in the blue. The lengths that blue group will go too have proved to be just about anything.

Feel terrible for these innocent kids and their families ...
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Where does a kid like that get the $5K (plus change) for those guns plus ammo?

Questions need to be asked
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Where does a kid like that get the $5K (plus change) for those guns plus ammo?

Questions need to be asked
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Re: JUST IN - Active shooter reported at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas. 19 children, 2 teachers dead, 17 injured
Reports on news is that police viewed suspect enter building with gun. They decided to wait for reinforcements before entering per protocol. The shooter barricaded himself within a classroom full of children and started shooting.

Backup help arrived and they entered the classroom 40 minutes after the shooter entered the classroom. I understand and agree with protocol but when shots started firing on innocent children, immediate entry should have occurred. If there were no shots or a room full of adults where they may have a chance of fighting back by rushing the shooter then maybe hold for support. However, with all children and maybe a teacher, they should have entered.

IMO
 Quoting: chemaster


Actually, ever since Columbine, the national standard for response to active school shooters is to immediately enter and force the fight, terminating the shooter ASAP. The same thing happened at the Sandy Hook event, the police waited for an hour to gather the entire SWAT team before entering.
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Reports on news is that police viewed suspect enter building with gun. They decided to wait for reinforcements before entering per protocol. The shooter barricaded himself within a classroom full of children and started shooting.

Backup help arrived and they entered the classroom 40 minutes after the shooter entered the classroom. I understand and agree with protocol but when shots started firing on innocent children, immediate entry should have occurred. If there were no shots or a room full of adults where they may have a chance of fighting back by rushing the shooter then maybe hold for support. However, with all children and maybe a teacher, they should have entered.

IMO
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In real life the officers would immediately go in, yes!

We all know deep down officers will put their lives on the line to save kids!

This waiting 40 minutes is dumb as hell!

No officers are going to just set by as they hear gun shots going off in a school with babies in it!

And yes I said babies because these were very young kids.

Even as a non officer with no weapon someone would be going in to at least retry and stop it!

Can you imagine the sounds outside of a school while this was supposedly taking place?

The shots the screams from the kids?

No way in hell anyone would just wait it out!

Pure bs!
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Doesn't every 18 year old buy a Daniel Defense AR with the riches they make working at Wendy's? Asking for a friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658862

Don't forget about the SA Saint and the 500 dollar EOTech too . Oh and the 375 rounds of ammo he purchased also.. hmmm oh yeah and the tact vest and multiple magazines. Add it all up and he's right around $5000 dollars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83036098


Exactly.

So who bankrolled this turd?
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Why do people think this is a gun control issue? This is an issue about saving people's lives - especially children in a school which should be safe. This is no time to be talking about guns control. the time is for mourning those who lost their lives and finding a way to prevent this from happening again.
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The left is losing ground bigley on abortion and LGBTQP, especially in Texas, so they pull out the gun control card. Their power lust knows no bounds.
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Because the grandfather, 72-year-old Rolando Reyes, is a felon, he cannot live in a house with firearms, according to the news outlet. If he had known, Reyes would have turned his grandson in, he told ABC News.

 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm not sure that I believe he didn't know.

According to the other articles, Ramos was sleeping on a mattress in the living room of the 850 sq. ft house.

I suppose he could have hid the guns, but I personally doubt that he bothered to, or that he needed to.
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Nope, I think he’s lying from his video interview


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I think he lied, too. Something about the way he shook his head back & forth like he was really pushing the answer no.
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Because the grandfather, 72-year-old Rolando Reyes, is a felon, he cannot live in a house with firearms, according to the news outlet. If he had known, Reyes would have turned his grandson in, he told ABC News.

 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm not sure that I believe he didn't know.

According to the other articles, Ramos was sleeping on a mattress in the living room of the 850 sq. ft house.

I suppose he could have hid the guns, but I personally doubt that he bothered to, or that he needed to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82467052


Nope, I think he’s lying from his video interview


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 Quoting: ~kpm~

He's probably lying.
I also believe the law states that a felon can live in the same household butcan't have access to said gun. Which means it must be locked up at all times with no means to access it, but that's a moot point. For the grandparent to not know he possibly left said firearms in his truck. Highly unlikely. No mention of reports that he went to the range too. Hard to believe an 18 yr old with no knowledge of how the AR platform operates take a brand new gun and can outshoot "trained" boarder patrol agents
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Re: JUST IN - Active shooter reported at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas. 19 children, 2 teachers dead, 17 injured
How long was he working at Wendy's? If he was working there for a year or more, he easily could have $5,000 since he had no living expenses.

The truck belonged to his grandparents, per media reports. It wasn't his.)

According to media quoting the Texas Dept. of Public Safety, he wounded three law enforcement officers at the school: one who was at the school when he arrived and two who arrived later.

A Meta spokesperson said the social media "posts" he made about the shooting were Facebook private messages to someone, a media report said.

What I wonder is how the two police who arrived were wounded. Were they engaging in a shootout with him? Or were they walking down the hall and shot and didn't get to where the shooter was?
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From my post above….


The killer, 18, started posting on Facebook “approximately 30 minutes before reaching the school,” Abbott said of the teen, who did not appear to have a criminal record.

“The first post .. said, ‘I’m going to shoot my grandmother.’

The second post was, ‘I shot my grandmother,'” Abbott said.

“The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was, ‘I’m going to shoot an elementary school.'”
 Quoting: ~kpm~


This stinks like shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82666998

Nobody has screenshots of his social media saying this? All I've seen were Instagram post of his guns and one picture of him that was posted and that's all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83036098


Nope, only what people caught before it was taken down, which doesn’t have these statements at all
 Quoting: ~kpm~

Weird right? Last shooter who was 18 had 180 pg manifesto. Lots of evidence of post on forums and social media. DC shooter was the same. One thing to note tho that I noticed. Is that this supposed longer angry dropout had 186 comments on his Instagram post. Seems like he was pretty popular
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Because the grandfather, 72-year-old Rolando Reyes, is a felon, he cannot live in a house with firearms, according to the news outlet. If he had known, Reyes would have turned his grandson in, he told ABC News.

 Quoting: ~kpm~


I'm not sure that I believe he didn't know.

According to the other articles, Ramos was sleeping on a mattress in the living room of the 850 sq. ft house.

I suppose he could have hid the guns, but I personally doubt that he bothered to, or that he needed to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82467052


Nope, I think he’s lying from his video interview


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 Quoting: ~kpm~


I think he lied, too. Something about the way he shook his head back & forth like he was really pushing the answer no.
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He's probably afraid he's going to go to jail. One more reason I find it bizarre he gave such an interview.
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The elephant in the room isn't the GOP but the fact that the killer was a mentally deranged transgender...exactly those with mental/emotional problems those in the highest positions of our illegitimate government tell us are just fine and dandy and we should allow leftist groomers to make more.
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The elephant in the room isn't the GOP but the fact that the killer was a mentally deranged transgender...exactly those with mental/emotional problems those in the highest positions of our illegitimate government tell us are just fine and dandy and we should allow leftist groomers to make more.
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Maybe, but I've seen conflicting reports that those dress photos are fake and not him. Other reports say he was bullied and a drop out. Other reports state.... Yeah you get the point. We will never get to the bottom of it.
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