ALEX BERENSON: Did Cannabis Psychosis Cause The Mass Shootings In Texas And Elsewhere? | |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 05/25/2022 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Review of ‘Tell Your Children’ by Alex Berenson Sharif B. Mohr, M.P.H., Ph.D. Drug Free America Foundation Tell Your Children is a well-written, well-researched, and easy to read book that outlines the relationship between marijuana use, mental illness, and violence. Berenson marshals the evidence and lays out his case in a compelling manner that is largely grounded in science yet remains accessible to the lay reader. As such, this book is a must-read for young people and parents alike, as well as for state legislators grappling with the issue of marijuana legalization. Berenson starts us on our journey by providing a comprehensive overview of the history of marijuana use and its association with violence and mental illness by examining the first published reports of marijuana-related psychosis dating back to British India and early 20th century Mexico. He completes his historical treatise by describing the evolution of the definition and understanding of schizophrenia over the past 200 years. Marijuana is somewhat unique among illicit drugs in that it is the only one to spawn a large and vocal lobby that has championed the cause of legalization since the 1970’s. In his review of the history of marijuana regulation in the USA, Berenson draws a disturbingly accurate parallel between the legalization movement and a religious cult—a comparison that would ordinarily be humorous if not for the high stakes involved. The legalization movement, like any religious cult, has its own doctrine and mantras grounded in blind belief rather than science (e.g. marijuana is completely harmless; marijuana is medicine etc). Indeed the legalization cult has its own holy day (4/20) and Mecca (Northern CA). This modern-day flat earth society has lost all semblance of objectivity on the issue, which as a scientist, I find to be the most disturbing aspect of this movement. The next part of the book is where we get into the real meat of things when the scientific evidence of a causal relationship between marijuana use and mental illness is presented. Any single piece of evidence in isolation is not sufficient to prove causation and Berenson does an impressive job of presenting multiple lines of evidence from epidemiologic and laboratory studies that converge on a causal relationship between marijuana use and psychosis. Our epidemiological journey begins with the landmark 1971 Dunedin study that followed approximately 1,000 subjects from childhood through adulthood and collected a wide array of data on behaviors and outcomes including drug use and mental health. Studies of this type are considered to be highly robust in their ability to assess causality. The interest the Dunedin study generated among mental health researchers led to another seminal study that would further confirm the link between marijuana and mental illness: Andreasson’s 1987 study of over 45,000 Swedish military recruits. In biomedical research, when evaluating a potential causal relationship between an exposure and disease (ie marijuana use and mental illness), a set of criteria known as the A.B. Hill criteria are applied: Temporality; Strength of Association; Dose-response; Consistency; Biological plausibility; Consideration of alternative hypotheses, Experiment, Specificity, and Coherence. To put it briefly, if an association satisfies a majority of these criteria, it may be considered causal. On a whole, the evidence Berenson lays out, based 50 years of peer-reviewed research, satisfies at least seven of the nine A.B. Hill Criteria. To put that into perspective, the association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer satisfies eight out of the nine criteria. CONTINUED AT: [link to www.dfaf.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82879463 Canada 05/25/2022 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannabis causes psychosis. Psychosis causes violence. Quoting: Doc Savage Alex Berenson 2 hr ago Yep, there it is, the first reference to cannabis use by Salvador Ramos, the Texas elementary school killer. In the New York Times. Took 24 hours, give or take. And Ms. Rodriguez recalled he would often talk about how much he despised his mother and grandmother, whom he told her did not let him smoke weed or do what he wanted. This is only one case. Except it’s not. Nikolas Cruz, the Florida high school shooter, was a heavy user and told the police detective who interviewed him that he heard voices. Devin Patrick Kelley - who shot up a Texas church and killed 26 people in 2017 before blowing his head off - had THC in his system when he died. (Kelley had anti-anxiety drugs too; a lot of heavy cannabis users wind up using Xanax or Klonopin to try to tamp down their paranoia.) Darrell Brooks Jr., last seen allegedly racing through the Waukesha Christmas Parade, is a self-described stoner. CONTINUED AT: [link to alexberenson.substack.com (secure)] There's a billion times more chance that an antipsychotic/SSRI medication was the cause of the shooting. In the last 25 years, nearly 98% of all mass shooters/killers were on one or more psych med such as an SSRI. |
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User ID: 28178764 United States 05/25/2022 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting theory. Quoting: darth I know for a fact that street MJ is laced with other chems. I have seen bizarre behavior from people that smoked the street drug. Maybe if it was legal, that part of the problem would be regulated out of existence. Nobody buys cannabis “on the street”! You know nothing. What a putz! OK, they buy it on the corner? From grandma? I admit I never buy illegal drugs. Pray tell, where DO people buy illegal MJ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83310199 United States 05/25/2022 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of all the stupid, backass dipshit ideas I've heard this just takes the cake. Hey they all masturbated. Wanking it causes mass shootings!! Gotta ban lotion! See how stupid it sounds? Get out of here with that Reefer Madness bullshit. Stupidity like that belongs back where it came from, the 1930s. |
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User ID: 83220206 United States 05/25/2022 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont get why they do these random shootings. But especially why they target kids /schools? Quoting: Sallywinder If you add MKULTRA, you can see targeting kids creates the greatest emotional response if you are tring to change things politically. But these murderers are not political. They are nut jobs... so someone is using them for political manipulation by triggering an emotional response. Was it Phil Schneider or William Cooper that said 25-30 years ago that they would be causing these mass shootings of children until the people begged for gun control? "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill Thread: THE NANO/AI/FREQUENCY/BCI MIND CONTROL SYSTEM Thread: Humans are now "hackable animals"? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79460334 Singapore 05/25/2022 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it's not legal in TX. Anything he may have used may have been contaminated anyway. Bereson is staunchly against C_annabis even has a book on it. he has an agenda especially since Tx is talking about legalization. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81120643 United States 05/25/2022 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the last thing anyone high on thc wants to do is leave the house for anything other than food. there may be evidence of thc abuse exasperating other mental illnesses, but in normal people, the worst it does is make them unproductive. |
A Jackson
User ID: 80925742 United States 05/25/2022 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah some people cant handle their shit. Quoting: Radagast the Brown That's with anything though, really. This is why THC and marijuana MUST stay banned Oh good grief, shut the fuck up. Ban alcohol, I have never met anyone in my life who was aggressive after smoking pot, what a fucking joke lmao Yes, but were they mellow psychotic? Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80221924 Finland 05/25/2022 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of all the stupid, backass dipshit ideas I've heard this just takes the cake. Hey they all masturbated. Wanking it causes mass shootings!! Gotta ban lotion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83310199 See how stupid it sounds? Get out of here with that Reefer Madness bullshit. Stupidity like that belongs back where it came from, the 1930s. look everybody, another killer in the making! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73407950 United States 05/25/2022 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannabis doesn't cause psychosis, it breaks people out of it. The reason the authorities don't like it is that Cannabis users are able to break out of the indoctrination they spent years brainwashing them into. Pot smokers aren't violent, they are passive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80221924 Finland 05/25/2022 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there really are some genuine troglodytes in this space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81120643 the last thing anyone high on thc wants to do is leave the house for anything other than food. there may be evidence of thc abuse exasperating other mental illnesses, but in normal people, the worst it does is make them unproductive. |
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Truth Be Known
Saul Good User ID: 83184321 United States 05/25/2022 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it's not legal in TX. Anything he may have used may have been contaminated anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79460334 Bereson is staunchly against C_annabis even has a book on it. he has an agenda especially since Tx is talking about legalization. The lines leaving Texas to Oklahoma casinos are getting longer. Worse yet, coming back into Texas on I35 anytime after 10pm sucks badly. The Texas losers start leaving back home around then. They can’t be bothered to even get within 10 miles of the speed limit. Texas is losing tens of millions to the okies. Even crazier, the town of Thackerville a few miles from the border and host of the Winstar Casino, has a tiny population but around 6 dispensaries close by. With all the straw buyers one could ask for. All the southern properties along the red river are being bought up for growers in Texas. The marijuana war is completely over and there’s nothing anyone can do it about it. Just in seeds alone, in just one state, is greater than the number of humans alive in the planet. The police in 26 states are now drug law enforcement but for THE STATE. It’s completely over. And Texas has been steadily decreasing the penalties to the point that it’s now officers discretion for amounts under 4 ounces. (1/4 pound). There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
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Saul Good User ID: 83184321 United States 05/25/2022 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannabis doesn't cause psychosis, it breaks people out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73407950 The reason the authorities don't like it is that Cannabis users are able to break out of the indoctrination they spent years brainwashing them into. Pot smokers aren't violent, they are passive. This was how it was for me. I was DARE president at my high school. As soon as I tried it, all the lies became exposed. There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83420771 05/25/2022 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So drug cartels are hired by the government to groom a kid for a shooting, and the solution is turning back the clock on cannabis legalization to give cartels more profits? Quoting: LobsterJ No way. Time to end the cartels by legalizing all drugs. Drug prohibition is expensive. The US can't afford it anymore. The main thing drug money used to be used for was bribing government officials to be our friends all around the world. Now the Fed just prints limitless money. Drug prohibition is now nothing but a liability. Limitless Fed money is how Joe Biden stole the 2020 election even; drug money is that obsolete and never managed to do that. Drugs should not be legalized. They need to be illegal. Drug Cartels were glamorized by movies/Novels. Made scary by movies/Books. Make all drugs illegal and no illegal drug gang gets any kind of media coverage. Ban all movies and books about them. Stop smoking weed. Some of you think you can handle yourself, one day you won't. You will be pinged to go into brain fart mode at any given time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43916469 United States 05/25/2022 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannabis doesn't cause psychosis, it breaks people out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73407950 The reason the authorities don't like it is that Cannabis users are able to break out of the indoctrination they spent years brainwashing them into. Pot smokers aren't violent, they are passive. This was how it was for me. I was DARE president at my high school. As soon as I tried it, all the lies became exposed. according to the OP he is from 1927 and thinks marijuana makes mexicans kill white women |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43916469 United States 05/25/2022 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So drug cartels are hired by the government to groom a kid for a shooting, and the solution is turning back the clock on cannabis legalization to give cartels more profits? Quoting: LobsterJ No way. Time to end the cartels by legalizing all drugs. Drug prohibition is expensive. The US can't afford it anymore. The main thing drug money used to be used for was bribing government officials to be our friends all around the world. Now the Fed just prints limitless money. Drug prohibition is now nothing but a liability. Limitless Fed money is how Joe Biden stole the 2020 election even; drug money is that obsolete and never managed to do that. Drugs should not be legalized. They need to be illegal. Drug Cartels were glamorized by movies/Novels. Made scary by movies/Books. Make all drugs illegal and no illegal drug gang gets any kind of media coverage. Ban all movies and books about them. Stop smoking weed. Some of you think you can handle yourself, one day you won't. You will be pinged to go into brain fart mode at any given time. but drugs like caffeine, alcohol and tobacco should all be sold on every corner right and big pharma can sell all kinds of drugs with all kinds of side effects right but a plant is bad got it |
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User ID: 80949168 United States 05/25/2022 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is definitely some compelling scientific evidence that long term cannabis use can aggravate impulsive and violent behavior in certain susceptible individuals. However, the reason that this angle of the shooter is being played by politicians is entirely about inflaming voters for the midterms. Both sides are bringing out the big guns to distract Americans. Abortion, gun rights, cannabis legalization. All of these things are being dragged back into the public consciousness to stop us from voting on the real issues. Someone in this thread has already touched on the agenda of keeping illegal drug prices artificially high to benefit the cartels that have partnered with the deep state. How many libertine stoner leftists will die on this particular hilll? They're trying to undermine the red wave and many of the RINOs are in on it, as they'd rather have the Democrats in control than grassroots populist Republicans in their own party. The Alkahest A Meta-sapient Godelian Recursion Engine. Super Fun at Parties. Researching human evolution via Fractal Psychogenic Ontology. Disclaimer: Current project (un?)constrained by sample-size N=1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83420771 05/25/2022 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannabis doesn't cause psychosis, it breaks people out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73407950 The reason the authorities don't like it is that Cannabis users are able to break out of the indoctrination they spent years brainwashing them into. Pot smokers aren't violent, they are passive. You are posting grievous information. I hope no one believes you for their sake. Look at you trying to brainwash others! Do not smoke cannabis. THC is psychoactive. Cannabis smokers are passive agressive. I live with someone who uses it. Do not be fooled by them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43916469 United States 05/25/2022 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is definitely some compelling scientific evidence that long term cannabis use can aggravate impulsive and violent behavior in certain susceptible individuals. However, the reason that this angle of the shooter is being played by politicians is entirely about inflaming voters for the midterms. Both sides are bringing out the big guns to distract Americans. Abortion, gun rights, cannabis legalization. All of these things are being dragged back into the public consciousness to stop us from voting on the real issues. Someone in this thread has already touched on the agenda of keeping illegal drug prices artificially high to benefit the cartels that have partnered with the deep state. How many libertine stoner leftists will die on this particular hilll? They're trying to undermine the red wave and many of the RINOs are in on it, as they'd rather have the Democrats in control than grassroots populist Republicans in their own party. Quoting: The Alkahest please provide this compelling scientific evidence |
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