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Barnacle Bill
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Gun Control Options; realistic plans?
I’m hoping to hear some realistic opinions and ideas about gun control, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of cute one liners and good catch phrases during this thread, but I’m hoping in a forum like this one we can have enough good with the bad to hear some ideas that are practical and reasonable to both sides.

As a mid-40s college educated, industrial/blue color manager, father of 2 that has legal weapons of all types, I’m a conservative, Christian, hunter/outdoorsman; I believe in 2A rights, glad we have it for a lot more than “deer hunting”. I’m a fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW, I support the idea of practical proficiency training and proving your ability to carry concealed (ie training class and practical demonstration to pass.

I am not a fan of national registry.

I am not a fan of mental red flag laws without judicial action.

I am a fan of a limiting purchase of semi-auto rifles to people under 21 (with exception of clearly defined hunting rifle (ie Browing BAR style) and semi auto shotguns (not high capacity AR style shotguns. (I realize the idea of what defines a hunting rifle can be debated forever, but I also think most reasonable 2A supporters understand the difference between a Remington 1100 and a Magpul decked out AR.)

I believe a practical gun restriction for those under 21 can be achieved, I realize for every one idea there is a dozen opposing it, some with reasonable thoughts, some off the cuff.

My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
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You can’t buy a firearm if you have voted Democrat in either of the past two elections or have been prescribed any psyc meds in the last 10 years.
Oh almost forgot, any contact with the FBI in the last 10 years makes you ineligible.

Badabing bada boom.
(Pulls off mask)"And we would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those meddling Qtards" Klaus S.
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How they will take your guns? Theý will ask it on tv and 90% will be so scared that they will give them all in a week. See how the vaccine worked in US.
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You can’t buy a firearm if you have voted Democrat in either of the past two elections or have been prescribed any psyc meds in the last 10 years.
Oh almost forgot, any contact with the FBI in the last 10 years makes you ineligible.

Badabing bada boom.
 Quoting: Yo Adrian


I have completely encapsulated almost every publicized mass shooting since Columbine.

Break out the champagne and cigars boys.
I've cracked the case.
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I’m hoping to hear some realistic opinions and ideas about gun control, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of cute one liners and good catch phrases during this thread, but I’m hoping in a forum like this one we can have enough good with the bad to hear some ideas that are practical and reasonable to both sides.

As a mid-40s college educated, industrial/blue color manager, father of 2 that has legal weapons of all types, I’m a conservative, Christian, hunter/outdoorsman; I believe in 2A rights, glad we have it for a lot more than “deer hunting”. I’m a fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW,

(snip)
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


Stopped reading your comment after that.

I believe you to be either woefully ignorant of what freedom actually entails, or are a shill who is an enemy of that freedom.

Dismissed.
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here's the non-secular conversation piece no one will touch.


you cannot legislate morality, and arbitrary rules about age requirements and all these things skirt around the understanding that there is evil and darkness in mens hearts and there always will be and in a secular society that hates God, you will have violence. Period.
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You can’t buy a firearm if you have voted Democrat in either of the past two elections or have been prescribed any psyc meds in the last 10 years.
Oh almost forgot, any contact with the FBI in the last 10 years makes you ineligible.

Badabing bada boom.
 Quoting: Yo Adrian

clappa
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As mentioned already, current or previous registration as a voter for the democrat party is grounds for permanent revocation of firearm ownership.

Hell, if one voted for the democrat party, then the fuckers all should be rounded up, tossed into a cargo ship, and deported to Africa permanently.

Place a bounty on their heads, and any attempt from them to resist deportation will be met with deadly force.

So fucking sick and tired of their Satanic destruction of our society, and am more than ready to be rid of their evil once and for all.
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There is no fucking option.
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My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


Europe and U.K. did that.

They are almost up to banning butter knives last I heard.

So nope, there is no real discussion to be had.

Anyone like you trying to be middle-of-the-road is living in fantasy unicorn land and knows nothing of history.

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You can’t buy a firearm if you have voted Democrat in either of the past two elections or have been prescribed any psyc meds in the last 10 years.
Oh almost forgot, any contact with the FBI in the last 10 years makes you ineligible.

Badabing bada boom.
 Quoting: Yo Adrian


All the Dems should fully support this

Seems plausible

I'm on board - maybe minus the FBI part - need to flesh that out more specifically - not sure exactly what your angle is on that part

Are we talking about:
If you were FBI?
If you contacted the FBI?
If they contacted you? (this is the one that I could see being an issue because they'd get busy real fast contacting people they didn't want to be armed)

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here's the non-secular conversation piece no one will touch.


you cannot legislate morality, and arbitrary rules about age requirements and all these things skirt around the understanding that there is evil and darkness in mens hearts and there always will be and in a secular society that hates God, you will have violence. Period.
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not to mention we are creating a dislocated generation of people raised on TV daycare divorce complete alienation and psychotropic drugs.


is any of this a mystery?
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raise kids to respect life
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My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


Europe and U.K. did that.

They are almost up to banning butter knives last I heard.

So nope, there is no real discussion to be had.

Anyone like you trying to be middle-of-the-road is living in fantasy unicorn land and knows nothing of history.

seinGluck
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hesright


OP is an agent

"come on guys, let's compromise"
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fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW


Priviledge...

Wtf did i read? What a asenine thing to say. "Conservative, 2a supporter", my ass.
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Re: Gun Control Options; realistic plans?
I’m hoping to hear some realistic opinions and ideas about gun control, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of cute one liners and good catch phrases during this thread, but I’m hoping in a forum like this one we can have enough good with the bad to hear some ideas that are practical and reasonable to both sides.

As a mid-40s college educated, industrial/blue color manager, father of 2 that has legal weapons of all types, I’m a conservative, Christian, hunter/outdoorsman; I believe in 2A rights, glad we have it for a lot more than “deer hunting”. I’m a fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW, I support the idea of practical proficiency training and proving your ability to carry concealed (ie training class and practical demonstration to pass.

I am not a fan of national registry.

I am not a fan of mental red flag laws without judicial action.

I am a fan of a limiting purchase of semi-auto rifles to people under 21 (with exception of clearly defined hunting rifle (ie Browing BAR style) and semi auto shotguns (not high capacity AR style shotguns. (I realize the idea of what defines a hunting rifle can be debated forever, but I also think most reasonable 2A supporters understand the difference between a Remington 1100 and a Magpul decked out AR.)

I believe a practical gun restriction for those under 21 can be achieved, I realize for every one idea there is a dozen opposing it, some with reasonable thoughts, some off the cuff.

My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


.




gun controll will not solve your problems with sick sociaety, where:

Trangender therpay is encouraged, those guys have more hormonal problems on daily basis than your wife on her worst day. They are unstable, just look at suecide rates.

Kids are on the edge of mental sickness, to the point where in Canada they have created ministry of Mental health.

Guns and crazy don't mix, there there is more and more crazy on the streets.

Solve the crazy problem, and you will not have gun problem. Even if youremove guns completly, crazy will use cras and just drive people over.

Bring back good values, god, church etc, Why all of the sudden it is satan only literally everywhere?

We live in sick sociaety where only strongest and most righest will survive.








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How about:

1. We talk about where the $450,000 school security budget went?

2. We talk about locking doors

3. We talk about police sitting outside because they're scared they don't have the equipment to take out an 18 yr old with a rifle when every single one of them is wearing a vest & has a handgun & a rifle or shotgun in their cars

4. We talk about the fact that he told everybody exactly what he was going to do

6. We talk about the fact that the police didn't respond to the grandmother that called them to tell them he'd shot her

7. The fact that they've turned our schools into a soft target where a gunman can almost be assured they wont be met with resistance

8. We discuss how there is no law that will ever be passed that would stop this kid from doing this because he doesn't give a f*ck about existing laws

It wasn't legal for him to enter the school with a firearm
It's wasn't legal for him to commit murder
It wasn't legal for him to buy a firearm since he lived with a felon
It wasn't legal for him to shoot his grandmother in the face
It wasn't legal for him to crash his car & abandon it

There's a TON more to talk about then jumping to gun control

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The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
Control your children.
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Problem is government and the school system that has been overtaken by morons and pedos.

Time for "dialog" is far gone. Weather you like it or not the people need to rise, start over. Don't let it happen again.
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I’m hoping to hear some realistic opinions and ideas about gun control, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of cute one liners and good catch phrases during this thread, but I’m hoping in a forum like this one we can have enough good with the bad to hear some ideas that are practical and reasonable to both sides.

As a mid-40s college educated, industrial/blue color manager, father of 2 that has legal weapons of all types, I’m a conservative, Christian, hunter/outdoorsman; I believe in 2A rights, glad we have it for a lot more than “deer hunting”. I’m a fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW, I support the idea of practical proficiency training and proving your ability to carry concealed (ie training class and practical demonstration to pass.

I am not a fan of national registry.

I am not a fan of mental red flag laws without judicial action.

I am a fan of a limiting purchase of semi-auto rifles to people under 21 (with exception of clearly defined hunting rifle (ie Browing BAR style) and semi auto shotguns (not high capacity AR style shotguns. (I realize the idea of what defines a hunting rifle can be debated forever, but I also think most reasonable 2A supporters understand the difference between a Remington 1100 and a Magpul decked out AR.)

I believe a practical gun restriction for those under 21 can be achieved, I realize for every one idea there is a dozen opposing it, some with reasonable thoughts, some off the cuff.

My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


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gun controll will not solve your problems with sick sociaety, where:

Trangender therpay is encouraged, those guys have more hormonal problems on daily basis than your wife on her worst day. They are unstable, just look at suecide rates.

Kids are on the edge of mental sickness, to the point where in Canada they have created ministry of Mental health.

Guns and crazy don't mix, there there is more and more crazy on the streets.

Solve the crazy problem, and you will not have gun problem. Even if youremove guns completly, crazy will use cras and just drive people over.

Bring back good values, god, church etc, Why all of the sudden it is satan only literally everywhere?

We live in sick sociaety where only strongest and most righest will survive.








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that "ministry" is where sanity goes to die forever and you are transformed from a human being into a ward of the state, for life. from the same barbaric quacks that brought everyone the joys of electro-shock therapy.
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They will just make you so poor you will give them up.

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It's an American tradition, mass shooting are a form of American religious ceremony. Hard to change religion.
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If you ban 18 year olds from buying guns

you have to ban half the US military
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My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill


Europe and U.K. did that.

They are almost up to banning butter knives last I heard.

So nope, there is no real discussion to be had.

Anyone like you trying to be middle-of-the-road is living in fantasy unicorn land and knows nothing of history.

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hesright
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Problem is government and the school system that has been overtaken by morons and pedos.

Time for "dialog" is far gone. Weather you like it or not the people need to rise, start over. Don't let it happen again.
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Yeh...These entrenched politicians created this with their intellectual Leftist policy.
They need to resign.
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Op, stay away from 2nd amendment. After everything that’s happened in the past 2 years, you aren’t getting any of our weapons. 2nd amendment is not to protect yourself from theives, it’s to protect you from your government. Compare Australia and Canada to USA and you will know that the second amendment works.
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It's an American tradition, mass shooting are a form of American religious ceremony. Hard to change religion.
 Quoting: Cool_Machine


Says the guy from the country that let his government force inject their kids & put them in camps

Mind your own business - we don't want your country or your government
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It's an American tradition, mass shooting are a form of American religious ceremony. Hard to change religion.
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Says the guy from the country that let his government force inject their kids & put them in camps

Mind your own business - we don't want your country or your government
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Oh bless Australia, no pew pew pew in little children's heads. Shame on you.
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fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW


Priviledge...

Wtf did i read? What a asenine thing to say. "Conservative, 2a supporter", my ass.
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Nope founding fathers said it was not a privilege

but every mans God given right!

And it wasn't about self defense it was about

defending the nation from tyrannical leaders
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They will just make you so poor you will give them up.

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i kind of figured this was the real end game.

no property = no rights.
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I’m hoping to hear some realistic opinions and ideas about gun control, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of cute one liners and good catch phrases during this thread, but I’m hoping in a forum like this one we can have enough good with the bad to hear some ideas that are practical and reasonable to both sides.

As a mid-40s college educated, industrial/blue color manager, father of 2 that has legal weapons of all types, I’m a conservative, Christian, hunter/outdoorsman; I believe in 2A rights, glad we have it for a lot more than “deer hunting”. I’m a fan of CCW and believe it is a privilege, not a right to be able to have a CCW, I support the idea of practical proficiency training and proving your ability to carry concealed (ie training class and practical demonstration to pass.

I am not a fan of national registry.

I am not a fan of mental red flag laws without judicial action.

I am a fan of a limiting purchase of semi-auto rifles to people under 21 (with exception of clearly defined hunting rifle (ie Browing BAR style) and semi auto shotguns (not high capacity AR style shotguns. (I realize the idea of what defines a hunting rifle can be debated forever, but I also think most reasonable 2A supporters understand the difference between a Remington 1100 and a Magpul decked out AR.)

I believe a practical gun restriction for those under 21 can be achieved, I realize for every one idea there is a dozen opposing it, some with reasonable thoughts, some off the cuff.

My concern is that if responsible gun owners/supporters don’t start this discussion, we are going to get pushed out of it.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Barnacle Bill



California has everything you want.

So move.

Federal laws should be unconstitutional.





GLP