Gun Control Options; realistic plans?

No. There is no compromise. None. That is the path to the death by a thousand cuts.

What part of: Shall not be infringed, do you not understand? It doesn't say: oh, but in this case...blah, blah, blah.

No. Compromise is a modern construct. All with the intent to restrict and ultimately take away that right which is the means to protect freedom.

Nope. Fuck that! You want to restrict YOUR rights? That's fine. You do you but you will NOT speak for me. You will NOT deny or restrict MY rights or freedoms. NO! I am not having it. Not one whit.

There is not a gun issue which has been perpetuated through media and the government. The issue is the inability of individuals to handle anger in a constructive manner. The focus has been misdirected towards an option of a device included in these focused events. If this were truly an issue, the cities where gun violence is most prevalent would be addressed.

Chicago would focus on the gang shootings and rampant shootings. Media focuses on their racial issues of the poor white kids being shot. More people are shot in Chicago over a weekend than most "mass shootings".

I feel like my parents in the years I was a teen, but the issue is centralized on the idolization on being violent in games, songs, videos, or the internet. People have been geared to feel they need to stand out, and tragic events like mass shootings are their path to achieve this notoriety. Violence has been the high bar of social achievement. We as a society have perpetuated this idea into our youth and lonely people.

By including others and making the world less isolated, we could lessen this need to dominate our fellow man. Currently they need to feel exceptional, which we have taken away by telling them they are all equal. There is not a natural and positive way to feel good about themselves.

Gun control will not lessen the issue unless we build people up from within. We have created evil people, with evil intensions. The only way to lessen the issue is to change the cause, not the effect.

This tiny scene is the reality of the situation.

responsible decent people who own firearms are able to defend themselves or try to in the event it is ever necessary.

these "incidents" have only proven it instead of disproven it. but as usual the left has everything backwards, twisted and upside down inverted so their "solution" is worse than the problem they claim to want to solve.

Don't send your kid to public school, teach him/her young how to shoot active shooters and pedophiles.

Problem is the evil idiot holding it - the guns aren't going anywhere even if they were made illegal overnight
There's more guns here than people

All that would happen is all the good law abiding citizens would be unarmed & all the criminals would have free reign

But logic doesn't apparently work on your side of the globe.

Like I posted earlier - there are many SOLUTIONS to this problem & gun control isn't it



Last Edited by Coldkidc on 05/27/2022 12:19 AM

Critically thinking it does man, some guy shot up thirty people in Tasmania in the 90s and after that guns were banned to the general public, you get can get a rifle if you get a licence for one, you pass a few tests you get your riffle, not a military riffle, a riffle for hunting or for the range. What's wrong with that?

obviously this is all about the goal to have complete control and communism technocracy like in say minority report or any sci-fi dystopian movie we've all seen.

NWO elites: Orchestrate a controlled demolition of capitalism especially over the last few decades.

Same NWO elites: See Capitalism doesn't work! give us your guns so we can once again do communism no matter who dies in the process as long as we stay in control of it

The only legitimate approach is repeal the NFA. It allows civilians to purchase suppressors and short barreled rifles by paying a $200 tax stamp fee to the government. This should be repealed!

How about fuck you op and any other person willing to give up your rights for a little security. Dipshit

I admire your parody of my comment

1st thing - if you can't spell rifle & license I'm not sure how much you should be able to say about it

2nd Your psycho horse face tyrant was doing whatever she wanted to the population & they won't stop at camps next time

You act like it didn't happen or that people weren't in a situation where their neighbor ratted them out for going to the park for a walk & then suddenly an LEO shows up to take them to a camp & they're loosing their job.

Just move to China - it's a faster way to get welded into your apartment so you can starve to death

Last Edited by Coldkidc on 05/27/2022 12:32 AM

no

The one obvious flaw that I've spotted is that the background check does not check for felons at the same address. I don't know how practical it would be to implement something like that but that would have stopped one shooting.

Might even help keep firearms out of the hands of other criminals. Law already prohibit 'strawman' purchases but a felon check would bolster that.

I assumed they already did this - this should definitely be done

What's the point of giving them your address on the form if they're not checking it

You are NOT a believer in 2A Rights.

If you truly did believe in your rights, you would also endorse the same rights for others as well.

People under 21? Ok then, people under 21 are NOT fully liberated adults and cannot:

Engage in contracts

Be conscripted

Get married

Have consensual sex

Travel freely in their own country

Purchase or consume alcohol

Etc...


"...but I also think most reasonable 2A supporters understand the difference between a Remington 1100 and a Magpul decked out AR.)"

Oh, ok... your guns are legitimate, but mine are not. Right?

Hunting and target shooting are forms of ENTERTAINMENT! Please let that permeate your thick skull.

The Second Amendment is NOT about ENTERTAINMENT!

Hunting and target shooting are NOT relevant to this discussion.

I have Several "Decked out" AR15s and AR10s. So what? That is NONE of your business!

Until such time as you NEEED someone like me to pull security for you or save your ass, you think that your hunting gun is "legitimate" but my ARs are not "legitimate".

"I believe in the 2A, but, but, but..." But you really don't.

You want some gun control? I'll give you a plan. I'll control my guns, you control yours. If I am minding my own business, causing no harm, and committing no crime, You have a Common Law obligation to leave me the hell alone!

You want to prevent madmen from attacking schools? Here's how you do it...

All teachers and school administrators MUST be armed, at a minimum with handguns. They MUST perform compulsory proficiency training, quarterly. They MUST take an oath to protect all children under their care even at the cost of their own lives. All school children, from the age of seven years, MUST go through mandatory firearm familiarization and proficiency training at least once in each school year. All students MUST demonstrate knowledge in firearms operation, how to disassemble and reassemble common firearms, how to unload and render a loaded firearm safe.

You do NOT need a policeman in every school any more than you need an air Marshall in the cockpit of every plane.

What is needed is alert, safety and security conscious, adults who care enough to be ready to fight if and when the need arises.

Here is a radical thought: Home school your children. Don't send them to Government Dewey Camps to get Marxist indoctrination and be fed junk at lunchtime. You are responsible for your child's education. When you farm it out to someone else, you are handing off your authority, but not your responsibility.

Leave me the hell alone, and I promise to return the favor.

What gun control do we need? Simple answer, Go Fuck Yourself.

Suicide.
That is your best option, realistically.

Try to take them, and everybody dies.

FA&FO

2A is not about hunting it’s about self defense. Does not the worm turn? It’s a basic, natural, God given right. If the worm can defend itself why can’t you?

This is where you give yourself away, attacking spelling, attacking Julia Gillard (I think) but it was John Howard that implemented Australian gun laws. Then harking back to COVID where very few Aussies died compared to the good old USA. Blow your brains out before you get the urge to go on an adventure.

Last Edited by Cool_Machine on 05/27/2022 12:39 AM

I agree with you. Keep doors locked ! Maintain situational awareness. Never let your guard down. That's the solution. Stay armed.

It has nothing to do with the guns. How is it possibky that hard to understand.

Take away a few special "really deadly" guns, limit the age. The kids who want one will figure out a way to get them black market, steal one from somewhere, etc. Or they use a different gun. Ban all guns but 9mm handguns for protection. Some wacko goes in and kills ten people at a mall with a 9mm handgun. Ok. Ban all guns.

Now the wackos have a hard time. So they begin taking card and targeting certain races, at bus stops, outside busy restaurant. Some nut kills 8 people eating outside at Starbucks.

Alright. So ban cars?

Bans just make for more creative killers.

You want a country without this shit? Put Jesus Christ back in the schools, make Bible study a class in all of them. Teach kids right and wrong, that boys are boys and girls are girls. Keep sex private and in the bedroom. Model empathy for kids. Teach them to treat others with love and respect.

Until that happens, the absolute best solution is to arm every teacher and lunch lady and school janitor. Force every adult to take a gun class and to carry an open weapon holstered where it can be seen. Everyone carries. If a shooter is suicidal, they will get mowed down quickly at least.

Are you malfunctioning?

I fucked up trying to edit the drivel in that polar bear dude thread. Oh well!

I see you didn't address any of what happened at all in your response

Denial is strong medicine - like I said, just move to China or weld yourself in your apartment - it's faster

And learn to spell

Let's go back to the first question, and see what you say.

"What are gun control options?"

case closed

- Lock doors
- Spend the $450,000 security budget on security
- Don't choose law enforcement as a career path if you're chickensh*t
- Respond to credible threats online
- Check the address for felons, we already have background checks & this information is provided - wouldn't take much effort & would have stopped this one

Would be a good start

Like I said, even if we wanted them to, the guns aren't going to dematerialize - they're here to stay

Last Edited by Coldkidc on 05/27/2022 12:56 AM

That's gun control? You should say 'no gun control'

New laws won't stop this & we already do background checks
The problem is they don't use the information provided to act on

Earlier suggestion of checking the buyer's address for felons would have prevented this kid from buying both of those $3000 rifles (which is another conversation - where'd that $$ come from?)

More gun control is not the solution - it will not solve this issue in America

Last Edited by Coldkidc on 05/27/2022 01:00 AM