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Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.

 
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Yeah, 10,000 years ago in Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt.

This isn't new tech. At all.

We could all live with almost limitless energy but that limits profits and control.

This is a huge topic on GLP since forever.

Next step is using obelisks to transmit dielectricity.
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That's weird you said that. I had a dream a long time ago; very vivid, and I was in a desert where there were pilons (could have been obelisks) and there were tesla arcs going from one to the other transmitting electricity without wires.
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So sodium doesn't have nearly the density of lithium, and so a comparable sodium battery is supposedly 3 times heavier...

This is a downgrade in technology.

Soon you'll have Prius on monster truck tires like a custom F350 just to carry the extra weight, I'm sure the roads will fare well, and surely the distance will be at least a couple miles, with new charging locations every 6 miles...
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So what you're saying is you're not an engineer.
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Correct...

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Batteries using sodium and sulphur and a different electrolyte
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So first off the major American brands are way behind on this tech. There is a manufacturer in China mass producing these for their cheap Chinese cars. You can look up CATL. Their weakness is 2/3rds performance as Tesla's lithium.

WE NEED FUNDING IN USA NOW FOR THIS. Where is Samsung, Where is INTEL, Where is Apple, Where is GM, Where is Ford we need this HERE NOW.

Second Americans can make it here, we need to and our army needs them for all their conversions NOW. Home owners need them now to stop having peak production expenses and spread out the costs of energy over the entire year so that peak demand is a thing of the past.

That's where we're at.

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Batteries using sodium and sulphur and a different electrolyte
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So first off the major American brands are way behind on this tech. There is a manufacturer in China mass producing these for their cheap Chinese cars. You can look up CATL. Their weakness is 2/3rds performance as Tesla's lithium.

WE NEED FUNDING IN USA NOW FOR THIS. Where is Samsung, Where is INTEL, Where is Apple, Where is GM, Where is Ford we need this HERE NOW.

Second Americans can make it here, we need to and our army needs them for all their conversions NOW. Home owners need them now to stop having peak production expenses and spread out the costs of energy over the entire year so that peak demand is a thing of the past.

That's where we're at.
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Germans invent tech
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Japanese perfect it
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Batteries using sodium and sulphur and a different electrolyte
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So first off the major American brands are way behind on this tech. There is a manufacturer in China mass producing these for their cheap Chinese cars. You can look up CATL. Their weakness is 2/3rds performance as Tesla's lithium.

WE NEED FUNDING IN USA NOW FOR THIS. Where is Samsung, Where is INTEL, Where is Apple, Where is GM, Where is Ford we need this HERE NOW.

Second Americans can make it here, we need to and our army needs them for all their conversions NOW. Home owners need them now to stop having peak production expenses and spread out the costs of energy over the entire year so that peak demand is a thing of the past.

That's where we're at.
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Germans invent tech
Americans make it affordable
Japanese perfect it
Chinese bootleg it
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I know I work on this tech for marketing.
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*Crickets*
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I was watching OP's stupid videos showing no one building these, no market.
Anyhow basalt is volcanic rock stronger than steel and will not rust. Here is a website if you are truly interested it's an amazing product available for decades. You can fit an equivalent of a truckload of rebar into a car backseat of basalt roving.

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Why have you not heard of this??? That is my question.
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I did see skis made of them which sounds promising...

Not sure, but with electric applications you need to be able to interface and measure, unless there's such an overabundance..

So I'm still looking but for now I'm still in IDK enough
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So sodium doesn't have nearly the density of lithium, and so a comparable sodium battery is supposedly 3 times heavier...

This is a downgrade in technology.

Soon you'll have Prius on monster truck tires like a custom F350 just to carry the extra weight, I'm sure the roads will fare well, and surely the distance will be at least a couple miles, with new charging locations every 6 miles...
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Better used in fixed home storage of solar/wind than putting it on wheels.
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I'd actually build a structure with the basalt, insulate the hell out of it, and actually use these 'new' things for additional storage.
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So yeah house of future would be something like this...

Geothermal cooling, that is pipes going down a dozen or more feet to get free cooling

Basalt for structure integrity and heating when needed, with vents or or some sort of insulation but one that could be used to heat water etc too along with house

Solar

And sodium ion for extra measurable storage

Surely this house wouldn't use municipal water
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Re: Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.
Yeah, 10,000 years ago in Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt.

This isn't new tech. At all.

We could all live with almost limitless energy but that limits profits and control.

This is a huge topic on GLP since forever.

Next step is using obelisks to transmit dielectricity.
 Quoting: eyeDR3


That's weird you said that. I had a dream a long time ago; very vivid, and I was in a desert where there were pilons (could have been obelisks) and there were tesla arcs going from one to the other transmitting electricity without wires.
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Sometimes dreams are more than you think.

You tapped into your ancestral memories.
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Re: Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.
add that first battery to Elon Musk's new Hydrogen burning charging engine and you will have a vehicle that only has to refuel with hydrogen twice a month
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lets see this.
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He already built it, Video is on youtube.

Add these batteries and it would change everything..

We are very close to vehicles that only have to be fueled

a couple times a year.
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lets see this.
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He already built it, Video is on youtube.

Add these batteries and it would change everything..

We are very close to vehicles that only have to be fueled

a couple times a year.
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Energy density would be insane.
Hate to see the car fire from one of those.
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Anybody else here remembering their basic chemistry?

Na + H20 yields a big boom.

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Best hs chem experiment ever
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This sounds good...let's see how it works out...
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lets see this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51043859


He already built it, Video is on youtube.

Add these batteries and it would change everything..

We are very close to vehicles that only have to be fueled

a couple times a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79729929


Energy density would be insane.
Hate to see the car fire from one of those.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80902135


Anybody else here remembering their basic chemistry?

Na + H20 yields a big boom.

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lol yah that’s not a fire that’s an explosion
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Re: Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.
Bottom line is 10-20% cost reduction from Li to Na. Na has lower capacity as well. Not a big game changer, you will need 3-4x capacity improvement over current Li ion batts and 2-3x cost reduction.

That will probably happen in next 5-10 years.
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So doesn't this mean that the oceans will be fresh water in about 10 years as humans consume all the salt?
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Lighter and less dangerous batteries are the key to EV success...
Environmental, safety, weight, availability, inexpensive...
I would love a vehicle that fueled every six months if AC is correct, hydrogen and sodium in varying states, interesting.
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So doesn't this mean that the oceans will be fresh water in about 10 years as humans consume all the salt?
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Matter cannot be destroyed.....
Eventually the sodium will recycle in its natural process.
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Not a huge step to make biology - human biology - a basis for energy production.
Native, on-board energy production for implants with small changes to the genome?

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Salt mines in Detroit?

Make Detroit wealthy again?
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So doesn't this mean that the oceans will be fresh water in about 10 years as humans consume all the salt?
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Matter cannot be destroyed.....
Eventually the sodium will recycle in its natural process.
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Yes, matter can be destroyed.

ENERGY can not be destroyed.
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Jesus, that chick is hot.

A liberal with a brain. Wow.
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oooh i heard about sodium replacing lithium 2-3 years back but its finally here, cool.

robocops walking the streets next year then, great!
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Not a huge step to make biology - human biology - a basis for energy production.
Native, on-board energy production for implants with small changes to the genome?

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
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more than enough all around us thanks to all the emf pollution, just needs collected and stored

some gadgets use it already
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Salt mines in Detroit?

Make Detroit wealthy again?
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The only possible way Detroit could be wealthy again is post carpet bombing and subsequent repaving.

Afterwards, they’d need to import white people.
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So no graphene?
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no need.
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They explicitly talk about graphine in the third video YOU POSTED.
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whats wrong with graphine? My entire property is covered in graphite rocks and boulders i smash them into smaller pieces and use them to draw when bored... Should I be mining my property? Ive probably got a 100 tons that i can see above ground
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Re: Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.
Yeah, 10,000 years ago in Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt.

This isn't new tech. At all.

We could all live with almost limitless energy but that limits profits and control.

This is a huge topic on GLP since forever.

Next step is using obelisks to transmit dielectricity.
 Quoting: eyeDR3


You know the ancient batteries they created in the temples? The priests used them to electrocute themselves. The isometric muscle contractions made them muscular as shit so they looked like gods. See modern TENS/EMS units. Real talk
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Flying cars.
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add that first battery to Elon Musk's new Hydrogen burning charging engine and you will have a vehicle that only has to refuel with hydrogen twice a month
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lets see this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51043859


He already built it, Video is on youtube.

Add these batteries and it would change everything..

We are very close to vehicles that only have to be fueled

a couple times a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79729929


You think that would be allowed and if so, do you want to pay your annual fuel budget in 2-3 large payments? You know it will not be cheaper for the consumer.
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So no graphene?
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no need.
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They explicitly talk about graphine in the third video YOU POSTED.
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whats wrong with graphine? My entire property is covered in graphite rocks and boulders i smash them into smaller pieces and use them to draw when bored... Should I be mining my property? Ive probably got a 100 tons that i can see above ground
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Send me some?
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Re: Sodium Ion batteries hit the market.
Batteries using sodium and sulphur and a different electrolyte
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So first off the major American brands are way behind on this tech. There is a manufacturer in China mass producing these for their cheap Chinese cars. You can look up CATL. Their weakness is 2/3rds performance as Tesla's lithium.

WE NEED FUNDING IN USA NOW FOR THIS. Where is Samsung, Where is INTEL, Where is Apple, Where is GM, Where is Ford we need this HERE NOW.

Second Americans can make it here, we need to and our army needs them for all their conversions NOW. Home owners need them now to stop having peak production expenses and spread out the costs of energy over the entire year so that peak demand is a thing of the past.

That's where we're at.
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Germans invent tech
Americans make it affordable
Japanese perfect it
Chinese bootleg it

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lmao
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