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Uvalde was the straw that broke this camel's back!

 
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Uvalde was the straw that broke this camel's back!
As some of you know, a couple of my siblings are LEOs. As are two of my closest and oldest friends. And I have at least 12-15 more buddies and chums I've made over the years as a paramedic and training in BJJ who are police officers.

So, I sure as shit ain't no "cop hatin'" liberal. But, since Uvalde I've parted ways with one sibling and a good friend because they've told me that the officers that waited "did the right thing." Covering their fellow officers mistakes and cowardice.

Well, fuck that! Now, we have this bizarre shit with the teacher. At this point, I have lost all faith in the institutions I raised to love and defend. My minister raped his own children, and every church I've tried to attend since then has had some mother fucking sex scandal. I've watched the law be used to put down political enemies and be unfairly leveled on the poor, the pissants, and those who don't "go with the flow". And those who have sworn to defend this nation and its citizen are acting like a bunch of candy asses or outright cowards. And now, we have teacher who suspiciously opened the door three minutes before this cockwad crashed his truck. How? Why? What the fuck is going on?

America's fate appears to be sealed. And I am angry and sad about it. But, somehow still living under this delusion that we can fix it peacefully. Without something horrible happening. For me, Uvalde was the line that was crossed. I will obey the laws of the United States of America and its constitution. But, as for offering my wholesale support to "law enforcement" and the nation's institutions of governance, I'm nay but a tacit believer in the dream of the Shining City on a Hill!
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A good timeline of the Texas school shooting, with lots in it that does not make sense. First, the teacher who propped open the door next to the shooter’s crashed truck, a door that was always kept locked, was seen on video doing so one minute before the shooter arrived on scene and crashed his truck. Work out the statistical probability on that. After crashing, the shooter immediately shot at two men who approached his vehicle outside, and the teacher then left the door propped open for 12 minutes, while they went and got a phone and maybe called 911, returned to the door, and then fled into the school afraid, leaving the door open for the shooter to enter. The school, which had both, lockdown drills, and weekly real lockdowns due to border-crime pursuits, then did not lockdown in those 12 minutes, while there was shooting right outside. All classroom doors were left open and unlocked, apparently just waiting for the shooter to walk through them, as 5.56 was going off outside. The shooter finally entered, and was able to walk freely into a classroom, and then lock the door behind him to prevent law-enforcement entry. And then you have all the weird law enforcement activity, which basically contained the shooter in the room with children for an hour, as they were calling 911 and apprising the dispatcher there were live children with the shooter and he was killing them. None of that makes sense, even before you consider that they are now saying the second rifle was a Daniel Defense too. So the unemployed, 18 year old shooter’s kit cost as much as $6300-$8000, per the link, and it was not bought on a credit card. When you are dealing with intel, you can’t see it because it tries to look normal. The only hint of it is that it’s side has “luck” so improbably incredibly immense, it seems impossible it could really be luck.
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and have a link to the video of the teacher with the door?
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What goes up must come down tho.
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Hope law enforcement releases the videos and 911 calls soon to back up the timeline they are giving out to the news media.
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I stopped supporting the police after BLM.

If the police don't support the Constitution, then there is no justice for anyone
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I stopped supporting the police after BLM.


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Wut? The police STOPPED blm from burning the cities down

they would have been marching into the suburbs slaughtering whites if the police hadn't kept them contained to limited areas
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Can't trust the government to protect you why give up your guns
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I resigned from one of the largest PDs in Texas in 2005. I have been through the departments active shooter training, called active rescue. What happened in Uvalde is not how I was trained, nor how I would have responded. Responding to an active shooter, especially at a school, you go with the mindset that someone is getting shot, whether it is them or me. Until that happens you aren't stopping. You are not tactically clearing room by room if you hear shots. You go straight to where the shots are at. If you go down, LEO behind you jumps over you and engages. This goes on until shooter is down.

There are also other tools at your disposal to regain a tactical advantage. I would not be waiting on a ballistic shield. That said, if one was there then of course use it. Flash bang the room prior to entry. Shit pump the room full of tear gas and make entry.

No way in hell could I ever live with myself waiting outside.

Rake the windows to remove the blinds to see in the room as several offices cover each window.

If there isn't a way, you find away.

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"Bipartisan" push to federalize police.
Don't fall for it.
Increased centralization of control is not the answer.
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As some of you know, a couple of my siblings are LEOs. As are two of my closest and oldest friends. And I have at least 12-15 more buddies and chums I've made over the years as a paramedic and training in BJJ who are police officers.

So, I sure as shit ain't no "cop hatin'" liberal. But, since Uvalde I've parted ways with one sibling and a good friend because they've told me that the officers that waited "did the right thing." Covering their fellow officers mistakes and cowardice.

Well, fuck that! Now, we have this bizarre shit with the teacher. At this point, I have lost all faith in the institutions I raised to love and defend. My minister raped his own children, and every church I've tried to attend since then has had some mother fucking sex scandal. I've watched the law be used to put down political enemies and be unfairly leveled on the poor, the pissants, and those who don't "go with the flow". And those who have sworn to defend this nation and its citizen are acting like a bunch of candy asses or outright cowards. And now, we have teacher who suspiciously opened the door three minutes before this cockwad crashed his truck. How? Why? What the fuck is going on?

America's fate appears to be sealed. And I am angry and sad about it. But, somehow still living under this delusion that we can fix it peacefully. Without something horrible happening. For me, Uvalde was the line that was crossed. I will obey the laws of the United States of America and its constitution. But, as for offering my wholesale support to "law enforcement" and the nation's institutions of governance, I'm nay but a tacit believer in the dream of the Shining City on a Hill!
 Quoting: Zer0Krash


You need to be open to the idea that this is, indeed, a False Flag production. That doesn't mean that nobody got killed, it means someone in the govt planned it.

Those of us of a certain generation tend to think WWMDD.
What would Marshal Dillon Do? The cops of today just don't live up to his standards. Yes, I know he was fiction, but i approve of the ideas and concepts he portrayed. Most of the cops today really are cowards. Shoot first and shoot fast and if it's wrong, you get a paid vacation. Kill the dog, kill the human. What difference does it make? Psychopaths.


I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Who cares it was a few kids that'd be liberal voters anyway.

Mexico will send thousands more and women kill thousands of children a day and it's legal so stfu op.
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Re: Uvalde was the straw that broke this camel's back!
As some of you know, a couple of my siblings are LEOs. As are two of my closest and oldest friends. And I have at least 12-15 more buddies and chums I've made over the years as a paramedic and training in BJJ who are police officers.

So, I sure as shit ain't no "cop hatin'" liberal. But, since Uvalde I've parted ways with one sibling and a good friend because they've told me that the officers that waited "did the right thing." Covering their fellow officers mistakes and cowardice.

Well, fuck that! Now, we have this bizarre shit with the teacher. At this point, I have lost all faith in the institutions I raised to love and defend. My minister raped his own children, and every church I've tried to attend since then has had some mother fucking sex scandal. I've watched the law be used to put down political enemies and be unfairly leveled on the poor, the pissants, and those who don't "go with the flow". And those who have sworn to defend this nation and its citizen are acting like a bunch of candy asses or outright cowards. And now, we have teacher who suspiciously opened the door three minutes before this cockwad crashed his truck. How? Why? What the fuck is going on?

America's fate appears to be sealed. And I am angry and sad about it. But, somehow still living under this delusion that we can fix it peacefully. Without something horrible happening. For me, Uvalde was the line that was crossed. I will obey the laws of the United States of America and its constitution. But, as for offering my wholesale support to "law enforcement" and the nation's institutions of governance, I'm nay but a tacit believer in the dream of the Shining City on a Hill!
 Quoting: Zer0Krash

The cops there knew it was fake, chump! Wake up!
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can anyone here explain to me why you need to own an AR15 ?
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Its all happening so fast but let's have that geometry discussion from that night.
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Its all happening so fast but let's have that geometry discussion from that night.
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an executive order banning AR15s will be signed SOON
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can anyone here explain to me why you need to own an AR15 ?
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Anyone that still wants to argue after seeing this cannot be saved. Their propaganda has won over your mind and convinced you being a dependent slave is better than being independent and free.
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can anyone here explain to me why you need to own an AR15 ?
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We have blacks

We have liberals

We have illegals

We have a federal government hell bent on killing us


Any more questions princess?
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Its all happening so fast but let's have that geometry discussion from that night.
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an executive order banning AR15s will be signed SOON
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Totally unenforceable. Does not have the force of law.
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can anyone here explain to me why you need to own an AR15 ?
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We have blacks

We have liberals

We have illegals

We have a federal government hell bent on killing us


Any more questions princess?
 Quoting: Justsayno


rockon
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just wait and see how they try and justify the kids that were killed by the cops shooting blindly into where they thought the shooter was.
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"Bipartisan" push to federalize police.
Don't fall for it.
Increased centralization of control is not the answer.
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Winner winner here. Yes federalize all of the jack booted thugs. Not answerable to you or your city or your state, just to the feds. Founding fathers warned against a standing army and that would include FBI and CIA and NSA and the list goes on and on. The number of Fed employees allowed to carry firearms is truly staggering and then there are the 4.6 billion rounds of 40 cal bought during the terror reign of obama.
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just wait and see how they try and justify the kids that were killed by the cops shooting blindly into where they thought the shooter was.
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I can easily believe this could have happened but suspect that like most false flags no one was killed.
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As some of you know, a couple of my siblings are LEOs. As are two of my closest and oldest friends. And I have at least 12-15 more buddies and chums I've made over the years as a paramedic and training in BJJ who are police officers.

So, I sure as shit ain't no "cop hatin'" liberal. But, since Uvalde I've parted ways with one sibling and a good friend because they've told me that the officers that waited "did the right thing." Covering their fellow officers mistakes and cowardice.

Well, fuck that! Now, we have this bizarre shit with the teacher. At this point, I have lost all faith in the institutions I raised to love and defend. My minister raped his own children, and every church I've tried to attend since then has had some mother fucking sex scandal. I've watched the law be used to put down political enemies and be unfairly leveled on the poor, the pissants, and those who don't "go with the flow". And those who have sworn to defend this nation and its citizen are acting like a bunch of candy asses or outright cowards. And now, we have teacher who suspiciously opened the door three minutes before this cockwad crashed his truck. How? Why? What the fuck is going on?

America's fate appears to be sealed. And I am angry and sad about it. But, somehow still living under this delusion that we can fix it peacefully. Without something horrible happening. For me, Uvalde was the line that was crossed. I will obey the laws of the United States of America and its constitution. But, as for offering my wholesale support to "law enforcement" and the nation's institutions of governance, I'm nay but a tacit believer in the dream of the Shining City on a Hill!
 Quoting: Zer0Krash

The cops there knew it was fake, chump! Wake up!
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The pigs there knew it was fake, yep absolutely is why they could not allow parents in. They will all be paid off later.
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can anyone here explain to me why you need to own an AR15 ?
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We have blacks

We have liberals

We have illegals

We have a federal government hell bent on killing us


Any more questions princess?
 Quoting: Justsayno


clappa
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Its all happening so fast but let's have that geometry discussion from that night.
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an executive order banning AR15s will be signed SOON
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Totally unenforceable. Does not have the force of law.
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it's against the law to invite illegal aliens in and give them free food and housing/medical and monthly payments

but guess what -- it's been done for millions of them

"the law" doesn't mean shit anymore
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I resigned from one of the largest PDs in Texas in 2005. I have been through the departments active shooter training, called active rescue. What happened in Uvalde is not how I was trained, nor how I would have responded. Responding to an active shooter, especially at a school, you go with the mindset that someone is getting shot, whether it is them or me. Until that happens you aren't stopping. You are not tactically clearing room by room if you hear shots. You go straight to where the shots are at. If you go down, LEO behind you jumps over you and engages. This goes on until shooter is down.

There are also other tools at your disposal to regain a tactical advantage. I would not be waiting on a ballistic shield. That said, if one was there then of course use it. Flash bang the room prior to entry. Shit pump the room full of tear gas and make entry.

No way in hell could I ever live with myself waiting outside.

Rake the windows to remove the blinds to see in the room as several offices cover each window.

If there isn't a way, you find away.
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You were trained to shoot through a steel door and walls, Reaper? Because, as you know, that's what the officers in the hallway were up against.
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The whole thing was suspicious. Something about all this story wasn't right.
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A good timeline of the Texas school shooting, with lots in it that does not make sense. First, the teacher who propped open the door next to the shooter’s crashed truck, a door that was always kept locked, was seen on video doing so one minute before the shooter arrived on scene and crashed his truck. Work out the statistical probability on that. After crashing, the shooter immediately shot at two men who approached his vehicle outside, and the teacher then left the door propped open for 12 minutes, while they went and got a phone and maybe called 911, returned to the door, and then fled into the school afraid, leaving the door open for the shooter to enter. The school, which had both, lockdown drills, and weekly real lockdowns due to border-crime pursuits, then did not lockdown in those 12 minutes, while there was shooting right outside. All classroom doors were left open and unlocked, apparently just waiting for the shooter to walk through them, as 5.56 was going off outside. The shooter finally entered, and was able to walk freely into a classroom, and then lock the door behind him to prevent law-enforcement entry. And then you have all the weird law enforcement activity, which basically contained the shooter in the room with children for an hour, as they were calling 911 and apprising the dispatcher there were live children with the shooter and he was killing them. None of that makes sense, even before you consider that they are now saying the second rifle was a Daniel Defense too. So the unemployed, 18 year old shooter’s kit cost as much as $6300-$8000, per the link, and it was not bought on a credit card. When you are dealing with intel, you can’t see it because it tries to look normal. The only hint of it is that it’s side has “luck” so improbably incredibly immense, it seems impossible it could really be luck.
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There's a huge difference between responses to an active shooter, barricaded subjects, and hostage rescue.

Before you guys MF the cops, get ALL the facts.
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As some of you know, a couple of my siblings are LEOs. As are two of my closest and oldest friends. And I have at least 12-15 more buddies and chums I've made over the years as a paramedic and training in BJJ who are police officers.

So, I sure as shit ain't no "cop hatin'" liberal. But, since Uvalde I've parted ways with one sibling and a good friend because they've told me that the officers that waited "did the right thing." Covering their fellow officers mistakes and cowardice.

Well, fuck that! Now, we have this bizarre shit with the teacher. At this point, I have lost all faith in the institutions I raised to love and defend. My minister raped his own children, and every church I've tried to attend since then has had some mother fucking sex scandal. I've watched the law be used to put down political enemies and be unfairly leveled on the poor, the pissants, and those who don't "go with the flow". And those who have sworn to defend this nation and its citizen are acting like a bunch of candy asses or outright cowards. And now, we have teacher who suspiciously opened the door three minutes before this cockwad crashed his truck. How? Why? What the fuck is going on?

America's fate appears to be sealed. And I am angry and sad about it. But, somehow still living under this delusion that we can fix it peacefully. Without something horrible happening. For me, Uvalde was the line that was crossed. I will obey the laws of the United States of America and its constitution. But, as for offering my wholesale support to "law enforcement" and the nation's institutions of governance, I'm nay but a tacit believer in the dream of the Shining City on a Hill!
 Quoting: Zer0Krash

The cops there knew it was fake, chump! Wake up!
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The pigs there knew it was fake, yep absolutely is why they could not allow parents in. They will all be paid off later.
 Quoting: DrPunch


I don't know. For all they know. One of them was a shooter as well. It's a tough situation to be in.





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