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The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.

 
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The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Once we understand that the dividing of Israel was a shadow of the dividing of Adam then we see a hidden mystery: first we have to understand Israel means 1st born son of God and we know Adam was a 1st born son making him an israel.

One division tells secrets of the other division and Vice versa:

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So we see the feminine comes forth from the masculine through Adam and Eves’ story. If we look at the division of Israel the kingdom the southern kingdom was called Judah which is the masculine israel and would be represented by Adam (the 1st born son). The northern kingdom came forth from Judah making it the feminine israel represented by Eve as she came forth from Adam.

The southern kingdom was only called Judah and is the kingly sceptre line but the northern kingdom went by several names. 3 names the northern kingdom was known by is:

1. The house of Jacob (birthright holder)

2. The house of ephraim (birthright holder)

3. The house of Joseph (birthright holder)

The northern kingdom was called these 3 names but was also known as Israel so how could that be as we see from the story of Eve she was the 2nd born?

The secret is all three Jacob, Ephraim and Joseph received the birthright for 1st born status even though they were classified as 2nd borns. So we see if those northern kingdom 2nd borns are receiving the 1st born status then it would have been possible for Eve to receive the birthright and been recognized as the feminine 1st born half of israel. This way you have a masculine 1st born israel and a 2nd born feminine israel

we are going to explore the purpose of creating a masculine and a feminine israel that was able to reproduce in my next post….

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Now that we have established there are 2 Israels...a masculine and a feminine and the feminine uses the birthright to qualify as a 2nd feminine firstborn. If you are already a firstborn son of God such as Adam he has no need of the birthright and as we see in scriputure over and over it is the 2nd born receiving the birthringt in example....issac, jacob, ephraim..so that establishes 2nd borns need the birthright for a name change to israel. So when you see one receiving the birthight you know they are considered a 2nd born.

Joseph also received the birthright as 1 chronicles 5:2 states Judah is the chief leader but the birthright is josephs. When jacob was handing out the blessings rueben levi and simeon disqualified for the 1st born blessing of the sceptre so Jacob gave it to Judah the 1st born of his 1st born wife leah.....the next blessing he gave would be the 2nd born blessing and it was the birthrigh to Joseph the son jacobs 2nd born wife and favorite wife Rachael. It is going to be importants to remember Judah recieived the 1st born blessing and Joseph received the 2nd born blessing of the birthright.

We have to ask the question. Why does God need 2 israels? The bible tells us the end from the beginning so we go to the beggining and see if any covenants were made with the 1st 2 Israels the masculine adam and the feminine eve. Sure enough God did make a covenant with them in genesis 1:28:

Gen 1:28:

Genesis 1:28 — King James Version (KJV 1900) 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis



God says to Adam and Eve first be fruitful and fill the earth...that took 6000 years. Then God says once its full then you are going to have domiminion over the whole earth and everyone living on it.

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God always works in the physical first then the spiritual in the end....So as we have established Adam and Eve were born into the world to procreate and make the kingdom.....God will then send back the spirit of Adam and Eve into two people in the endtimes...not neccasarily a man and woman physically because there is no need to procreate as the kingdom is already made and full...this time he sends two men as one is the king and the other is the high priest but one with a spiritual masculine kingship dominion and the other with the spiritual feminie priesthood dominion....I'll continue on with my next post.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Notice in the original King James Bible picture Moses is holding the phalas representing masculine and Aaron the high priest is holding the egg representing the spiritual feminine .....the civil leader/king is always the masculine and the high priest is always the spiritual feminine.

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The Jeeews know these 2 anointed as messiah ben david and messiah ben joseph which means a son from the line of Joseph and a son from the line of Judah.they are only spiritually masculine and feminine...David the masculine because he heads the kingship and Joseph heads the spiritual feminine priesthood as he does the duties of keeping the temple as a wife would do...baking the bread...lighting the candles preparing the sacrifices...etc.....and as we have established Judah is the southern kingdom masculine and the house of joseph was the northern kingdom feminine of Israel as we show in the comparison of Adam and Eve representing the dividing of the northern and southern kingdom those of the northering kingdom having to use the birthright for 1st born status and the southern kingdom of judah has no need for the birthright as they are the masculine making them already the 1st born son of God...the 2nd born needs the birthright in order to be recognized as 1st born......more on my next post.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
The jeeews believe there are 2 anointed coming as do the christians which they call the two witnesses. The jeeews call them messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david...it is very convient that they say these are the two because the word "ben" means "son of" so one anointed is from the line of joseph which is the birthright line making him a spiritual feminine Israel and the other anointed is from the line of Judah which is the spiritual masculine Israel as we see from the example of the kingdom of Israel being divided into 2 kingdomns the southern being the house of judah and the northern being the house of joseph.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
The Israel from before the Flood was located in what is modern day Quebec.

After Adam left the Garden of Eden, he was taken to North America.

Enoch and Noah lived in Canada, until the Flood took Noah to Asia.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
As we know Jesus’ kingdom is melchelzedek order which means the Kingship and Priesthood are combined . The melchelzedek priesthood is Jesus’ priesthood and is flawless . Notice those who accept Jesus during this 2000 year age of grace are said to become kings and priests which put them in the melchelzedek kingdom. In order to have a functioning melchelzedek kingdom filled with kings and priests you need a sinless environment which tells us Jesus will rule with the saints from heaven during the millennium

Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.

This is why there is a masculine and a feminine israel as one will have dominion over the davidic kingship and the other will have dominion over the levitic priesthood by using the birthright

The two anointed arrive and after being ressureced from the dead and the 70th week is completed they will both have dominion in the millennium so Jesus can keep the melchelzedek priesthood pure until the jeeews have finished their time of testing

Notice the gentiles testing was age of grace with satan present for tempting them.....but during the millennial reign it is said that satan will be bound for a thousand years so the jeeews will use the levitic priesthood for holiness as they will be able to follow the law as satan will be bound...but we see there is still minor sin on earth and their redemption will come from believing what Jesus did on the cross.


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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Revelation 5:10 is the verse that makes Christian’s believe they are going to rule on earth as the king James says “on the earth”…yet that word “on” in the original Greek is the word “epi” which can be translated as “ on” but it could also be translated as “over” or “above” which would put Jesus and the saints in heaven where there is no sin and the Jeeews would have to believe in Jesus by faith like the gentiles did


Are we to believe Jesus made all those mansions in heaven so the gentiles could go live on earth during the millennium.



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And hast formed them into a Kingdom to be priests to our God, And they reign over the earth."

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Once these 2 anointed have finished ruling one as davidic king and the other as levitic high priest on earth during the millennium all who have faith in what Jesus did will become kings and priests just as the gentile did during the age of grace their time of testing.

Once the testing of the jeeews is over Jesus will bring the new jerusalem down and create a new heaven and new earth and do away with sin....then all gentiles and jeeews who are kings and priests can live in perfect harmony in a sinless world with uncorruptible bodies with Jesus as King and High Preist of all the melchelzedek subjects.

Then messiah ben david and messhiah ben joseph will sit on thrones at Jesus' left and right as a reminder of the former earth and the former davicic kingship and levitic priesthood as they will have reigned on earth for over 1000 years.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
2 examples of the two anointed being called olive trees meaning they are 2 Israels:


Zechariah 4:

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.



Revelation 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


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Just a reminder Zechariah 4 and revelation 11 calls the 2 anointed two olive trees……did it mean one was the wild olive tree and the other the natural olive tree?……you be the judge


The difference between a wild olive tree and a natural olive tree is a wild olive tree doesn’t produce fruit until grafted into the natural olive tree…..you could say before the unification “the wild olive tree has no fire in his belly”….lol

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
One thing we notice about the two kingdoms of the divided Israel….they were a judah and a Joseph and they didn’t get along….perhaps this is what kept them divided until the designated time…lol…of course it is


When you are divided you learn things that you could not if you are united. Division brings two perspectives instead of one following the other.

There is always a purpose for a division/broken brotherhood and the purpose is to bring courage to one and strength to the other.



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“ Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.”


——A total fabrication.—-
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“ Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.”


——A total fabrication.—-
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Do tell. Have you read Ezekiel 45 where animal sacrifices are being performed in the millennial kingdom? I’d like to hear your book report on it
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Once these 2 anointed have finished ruling one as davidic king and the other as levitic high priest on earth during the millennium all who have faith in what Jesus did will become kings and priests just as the gentile did during the age of grace their time of testing.

Once the testing of the jeeews is over Jesus will bring the new jerusalem down and create a new heaven and new earth and do away with sin....then all gentiles and jeeews who are kings and priests can live in perfect harmony in a sinless world with uncorruptible bodies with Jesus as King and High Preist of all the melchelzedek subjects.

Then messiah ben david and messhiah ben joseph will sit on thrones at Jesus' left and right as a reminder of the former earth and the former davicic kingship and levitic priesthood as they will have reigned on earth for over 1000 years.

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FALSE TEACHER ALERT

1. The word gentile is a made up English word with a made up meaning. Why have you accepted it ? Why do you preach that falsehood? Gentile does not mean “non jxxw” and Judah does not mean jxxxw
2. The gospel went out to all twelve tribes - THAT INCLUDES TO JUDAH.
3. The division has been ended in Jesus Christ. The sticks were joined and is the new man, the Israel of God, the new creation.
4. The millennium isn’t coming…it’s ending. Do you not notice that all of our nations are being deceived simultaneously which would point to the end of the millennium being now.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Adam was a created being, not a born son.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Once these 2 anointed have finished ruling one as davidic king and the other as levitic high priest on earth during the millennium all who have faith in what Jesus did will become kings and priests just as the gentile did during the age of grace their time of testing.

Once the testing of the jeeews is over Jesus will bring the new jerusalem down and create a new heaven and new earth and do away with sin....then all gentiles and jeeews who are kings and priests can live in perfect harmony in a sinless world with uncorruptible bodies with Jesus as King and High Preist of all the melchelzedek subjects.

Then messiah ben david and messhiah ben joseph will sit on thrones at Jesus' left and right as a reminder of the former earth and the former davicic kingship and levitic priesthood as they will have reigned on earth for over 1000 years.

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FALSE TEACHER ALERT

1. The word gentile is a made up English word with a made up meaning. Why have you accepted it ? Why do you preach that falsehood? Gentile does not mean “non jxxw” and Judah does not mean jxxxw
2. The gospel went out to all twelve tribes - THAT INCLUDES TO JUDAH.
3. The division has been ended in Jesus Christ. The sticks were joined and is the new man, the Israel of God, the new creation.
4. The millennium isn’t coming…it’s ending. Do you not notice that all of our nations are being deceived simultaneously which would point to the end of the millennium being now.
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Jesus came for the jeeews first because the gentiles couldn’t have a covenant with him until the age of grace started after his death and ressurection. You have to serve the 1st borns 1st…lol
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“ Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.”


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Do tell. Have you read Ezekiel 45 where animal sacrifices are being performed in the millennial kingdom? I’d like to hear your book report on it
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You believe the millennium is future.
You believe gentile means non jxxw
You believe the age of grace was for this made up group gentiles



We can have no meeting of minds on the subject until you drop those errors.
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“ Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.”


——A total fabrication.—-
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Do tell. Have you read Ezekiel 45 where animal sacrifices are being performed in the millennial kingdom? I’d like to hear your book report on it
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You believe the millennium is future.
You believe gentile means non jxxw
You believe the age of grace was for this made up group gentiles



We can have no meeting of minds on the subject until you drop those errors.
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If you don’t believe in the great week of humanity which is equal to 7000 years I can’t help you as we are only 6000 from Adam right now
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Adam was a created being, not a born son.

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The definition of born is having been given life.
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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Adam was a created being, not a born son.

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The definition of born is having been given life.
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No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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More lies. Adam was fine by himself. Evil came in with Eve.
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Isn't Jesus one of them and the coming Elijah the second one the prince that will rule the earth during the Millenium ? And the two witnesses of revelation and two different people ? Have you checked nicks videos on the end time Elijah ? [link to youtube.com (secure)]
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Adam was a created being, not a born son.

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The definition of born is having been given life.
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No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

More fail.
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Jesus never tried to be any certain number of all the created born into the world...Jesus wanted to be the 1st born from the dead unto eternal life:

Paul explained that Jesus conquered death and is “the firstborn from the dead” (Colossians 1:18)

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"End times" are long gone. They've been over and fulfilled for 2,000 years since the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Preterism seems to be the best lens of interpretation of such scriptures. Investigate books and sites/YouTube channels by people like Don K. Preston, Gary DeMar ("Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church"), David H. Chilton, James Stuart Russell, etc.

There is not going to be a rapture. Jesus said the time was already at hand, multiple times, back in His day.
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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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More lies. Adam was fine by himself. Evil came in with Eve.
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Did Adam just say pass on eathing from the tree of good an evil or was he expelled from the garden also?

Adam is the masculine of creation.....so we just get rid of the feminine of creation Eve...lol. Jesus must not have seen that one coming..lol


there would have been no kingdom had Adam remained alone.
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I was watching a show about symbolism and it was stated that the star of da vid was two overlapping triangles and one represented the feminine and the other represented the masculine, the two overlap which is a symbol of their union.

The union of man and woman. Spiritual and man….

I couldn’t help but remember that when reading about the masculine and feminine Israel in your post.


I have been struggling with the plagues being pounded on the earth by the angels in revelation.

It is possible they are manmade/ bioengineered.

If they just occur naturally it would fit.


Can you explain that?
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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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L M F A O

what kind of fucking sick lies

it was Eve that listened to Satan and took the forbidden fruit for which they were expelled from the Garden of Eden

since then the Women represent the SIN

LOL

though

God created Adam first, as head, then his wife, as helper; the serpent subverted God’s order.”

talk about feminism
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What's your point?
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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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L M F A O

what kind of fucking sick lies

it was Eve that listened to Satan and took the forbidden fruit for which they were expelled from the Garden of Eden

since then the Women represent the SIN

LOL

though

God created Adam first, as head, then his wife, as helper; the serpent subverted God’s order.”

talk about feminism
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ditto

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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
 Quoting: Agent 99


L M F A O

what kind of fucking sick lies

it was Eve that listened to Satan and took the forbidden fruit for which they were expelled from the Garden of Eden

since then the Women represent the SIN

LOL

though

God created Adam first, as head, then his wife, as helper; the serpent subverted God’s order.”

talk about feminism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76245614


Actually it’s from an even earlier Nordic tale that they simply stole like everything else in their miserable, evil lives.

But that’s neither here nor thee as this is the most hairbrained, idiotic thread of the week.





GLP