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The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.

 
waterman  (OP)

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So when you talk about gentiles having access t all those mansions

Are we talking about the descendants of Noah youngest son Japheth

Who went on to create the island of gentiles
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the mansions are entire constructed on purpose worlds .. larger than earth. they are made of matter a level higher in vibration than earth. They are the first levels of experience after earth.

You do not get individual mansions.. that is SILLY.

your post is silly beloved.. there is no truth in it..

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bsmeter
since you have never been to heaven, you cant say what the mansions are. and silly is your postings that GOD and Jesus need a spaceship. now that is silly
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Lol…nice
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...
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Repent.
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I am a perfected being of human origin from Paradise.. I do NOT have to "repent".... and do I take that to be a threat from you? Its implied..
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OK, Karen
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I am not a Karen. I am a skill teacher and you ones prefer your mind control to truth.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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So when you talk about gentiles having access t all those mansions

Are we talking about the descendants of Noah youngest son Japheth

Who went on to create the island of gentiles
 Quoting: hwy_ho1


the mansions are entire constructed on purpose worlds .. larger than earth. they are made of matter a level higher in vibration than earth. They are the first levels of experience after earth.

You do not get individual mansions.. that is SILLY.

your post is silly beloved.. there is no truth in it..

 Quoting: Mother Maggie


bsmeter
since you have never been to heaven, you cant say what the mansions are. and silly is your postings that GOD and Jesus need a spaceship. now that is silly
 Quoting: Baloney


Lol…nice
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I AM FROM HEAVEN BALONEY... incarnated here in a suit of meat. This is not my first rodeo.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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the mansions are entire constructed on purpose worlds .. larger than earth. they are made of matter a level higher in vibration than earth. They are the first levels of experience after earth.

You do not get individual mansions.. that is SILLY.

your post is silly beloved.. there is no truth in it..

 Quoting: Mother Maggie


bsmeter
since you have never been to heaven, you cant say what the mansions are. and silly is your postings that GOD and Jesus need a spaceship. now that is silly
 Quoting: Baloney


Lol…nice
 Quoting: waterman


I AM FROM HEAVEN BALONEY... incarnated here in a suit of meat. This is not my first rodeo.
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


NO, you most certainly are NOT from heaven. you were born here, just like everyone else and your shit stinks just like everyone elses

and yes its your first and only life in the flesh.There is no such thing as reincarnation
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You just can't see what I see sword...but you will in the end...thanks for the karma.

You probably should have read those last few emails I sent you as they went into more detail about this subject...I won't twist anyones arm to read something...I just supply it and you can do with it what you want. It's probably not for you to read but for me to give you the opprotunity to read it.

I'd give you some good Karma but I already did this week.

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Salem is where the altar was that Cain and Able came to. It was Christ who was the High Priest from Adam to Moses:
Heb:7:1-4:
For this Melchisedec,
king of Salem,
priest of the most high God,
who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings,
and blessed him;
To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;
first being by interpretation King of righteousness,
and after that also King of Salem,
which is,
King of peace;
Without father,
without mother,
without descent,
having neither beginning of days,
nor end of life;
but made like unto the Son of God;
abideth a priest continually.
Now consider how great this man was,
unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Moses was a mortal High Priest to God, that is not higher than an immortal High Priest to GOD.
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OP: “Ezekiel and Jeremiah tell us what kind of kingdom will be on earth during the millennium and it will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood.. we read in Ezekiel 45 that animal sacrices will be performed and that sin still resides on earth during the millennium so you don’t want to ruin the melchelzedek priesthood by using it in a sin environment.
This is why there is a masculine and a feminine israel as one will have dominion over the davidic kingship and the other will have dominion over the levitic priesthood by using the birthright”

1. David died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that He would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31Foreseeing this, David spoke about the resurrection of the Christ…. 36Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!”

—-This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David,

= Jesus Christ is the son of David and sits on his throne.

2. You claim scripture says that first the natural then the spiritual…but go on to contradict yourself by claiming that one will have dominion over the Davidic kingship and one over the levitical priesthood? Scripture declares that Jesus Christ is king, the son of david, and sits on that throne now. And that he is both LORD (King)and CHRIST (priest). Scripture declares that the levitical priesthood cannot make anyone perfect. Why then do you promote this idea than an inferior priesthood will reign again?
- 1This Melchizedek was KING of Salem and PRIEST of God Most High.
-11Now if perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on this basis the people received the law), why was there still need for another priest to appear—one in the order of Melchizedek and not in the order of Aaron? 12For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed as well. 14For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, a tribe as to which Moses said nothing about priests.
-18So the former commandment is set aside because it was weak and useless 19(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
20And none of this happened without an oath. For others became priests without an oath, 21but Jesus became a priest with an oath by the One who said to Him: The Lord has sworn and will not change His mind -You are a priest forever.’ ”
-because Jesus lives forever, He has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore He is able to save completelyd those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to intercede for them.
So your personal that one will reinstitute the levitical priesthood makes void all of the above. It substitutes a system that can make nobody perfect and exalts priests whom cannot save.

26Such a high priest truly befits us—One who is holy, innocent, undefiled, set apart from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. 27Unlike the other high priests, He does not need to offer daily sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people; He sacrificed for sin once for all when He offered up Himself. 28For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

- but you claim that such a levitical system full of animal sacrifices will be set up again?

What I discern you actually proposing is the exact same thing that happened in that garden - I am afraid brethren THAT JUST AS EVE THAT YOUR MINDS WILL BE SWAYED FROM THE SINGLENESS AND PURITY OF CHRIST —-Jesus Christ IS both King and priest and is both Lord and Saviour. What you propose people accept and come to welcome is the very thing that Eve was throughly hoodwinked to welcome in.

We are experiencing the same moment in time.
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23Now there have been many other priests (levitical), since death prevented them from continuing in office. 24But because Jesus lives forever, He has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore He is able to save completelyd those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to intercede for them.

But op sells the world going back under the levitical priesthood? Which cannot save? Which has fallible and mortal priests? And sacrifices? And that makes no man perfect? To a shadow and not the reality?

Why would you accept and preach such a thing ?

That is not a millennial kingdom …that is to deny the lord and saviour Jesus Christ.
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For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

Why would Jesus institute a system of weak mortal men whom cannot save op? What kind of millennial kingdom is this that you propose?
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26Such a high priest truly befits us—One who is holy, innocent, undefiled, set apart from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

= perfection.

The law did not appoint such men.
It appointed mortal men and weak men whom could make nobody perfect. And whose sacrifices never ever cleaned consciences nor removed sin but only covered sin.

1The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2and who ministers in the sanctuary and true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by man. Man set up the shadow.
6Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been without fault, no place would have been sought for a second.

13By speaking of a new covenant,c He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

So op, if you propose and support levitical priests being set up again ….then you are proposing a fall
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It’s all these other doctrines that keep everyone feeding on baby’s milk

That is causing so much damage and misunderstandings

Thomas like proof and evidence can be easily explained to the masses like Jesus did

This time the soil could and would produce a good yield
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26Such a high priest truly befits us—One who is holy, innocent, undefiled, set apart from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

= perfection.

The law did not appoint such men.
It appointed mortal men and weak men whom could make nobody perfect. And whose sacrifices never ever cleaned consciences nor removed sin but only covered sin.

1The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2and who ministers in the sanctuary and true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by man. Man set up the shadow.
6Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been without fault, no place would have been sought for a second.

13By speaking of a new covenant,c He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

So op, if you propose and support levitical priests being set up again ….then you are proposing a fall
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I’ll give you a response later this afternoon…..right now I have to drive a couple hours for my job so I won’t be able to give a proper response…..thanks for your interests and input.
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You just can't see what I see sword...but you will in the end...thanks for the karma.

You probably should have read those last few emails I sent you as they went into more detail about this subject...I won't twist anyones arm to read something...I just supply it and you can do with it what you want. It's probably not for you to read but for me to give you the opprotunity to read it.

I'd give you some good Karma but I already did this week.

dwight
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I seek to give good karma because I am not vindictive. But it doesn't mean I am in agreement with your analysis.

Listen to all of these individuals telling you as I have been for yrs. that you're not correct scripturally or any other way except within your own understanding of the nonsense you have convinced yourself to believe.

You are following traditional beliefs of the past and tradition makes the word of God of none effect (Mark.7:13KJV). In other-words tradition, is a tool used in Satan's arsenal to confound the weak minded in those who seek to follow Christ. Stop working for the adversary!

It's only because you have convinced yourself that you are that high priest and also one of the two witnesses, and every other famous biblical member of the body of Christ. From the man Israel, Joseph, Eve, Elijah, and who knows who else you are claiming to be this week. Not true, not so.

You have been seeking to convince me of these fantasies for over a decade. You are not any of these characters you claim to be. You have no confirmation of these claims, not even a member of your family, not even your dog. And such beliefs are demonically inspired when they come forth out of your own imagination (2 Cor.10:5KJV).

Not having two or three witnesses come forth to confirm such a belief of your own imaginings (2 Cor.13:1KJV) is not biblical. And stop telling me Jesus didn't have two or three witnesses but his Father only. The Lord would not violate his own Word. Jesus had John the Baptist testify he was the lamb of God, and Peter declared he was the Son of the living God, and even the Roman guard professed Jesus was surely the Son of God.

This is why I keep telling you to repent but you are so full of pride and arrogance and a hubris attitude you cannot or dare not face the truth of your own folly. Son and I am allowed to call you this for you and I know it is true. If you do not cease from these foolish claims and repent. You are in great danger not because of your misleading but for misleading the simple minded in a direction that seeks to manifest Jesus Christ as a temporary sacrifice, which shall never prove to be a truth in God's Word!

And you will never substitute Jesus for some other animal sacrifices. These sacrifices in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are symbolic in the spiritual sense and they are not exactly reality in the physical. Conducted not by a high priest as you claim (but none shown in these passages), but priest's only and the (prince in/of Israel). Nevertheless, the sacrifices in the temple of (Rev.11:1KJV) will consist of animals not because of God's will but because of the understanding of unbelievers.

For even God is not speaking of the same temple in (Rev.11:1KJV), men will build but he speaks of another temple. He calls it the temple of God in (Rev.11:1KJV) God would never call a temple sacrificing animals and allow the antichrist to dwell therein. Not in the temple that God is speaking of in this verse (Rev.11:1KJV). But men with Satan's help in mockery misinterpret it as one built by men's hands. And sadly many Christians understand it wrongly even dedication offerings for its construction. Lessening the importance of the sacrificial offer of the our Lord!

Nevertheless, God was speaking of the measuring by a Rod (Jesus Christ) of the temple of God, (Rev.11:1KJV) the total body intake in those days, the end days, when the sacrificial Lamb had and has already been offered 2000 yrs. earlier (for we the believers in Christ be the true body of Christ. Thus, this is why the Word called it the temple of God the only true temple the believers in Christ.

For anything that contradicts the Word of God. As if something more is needed to substitute God's finished sacrificial work thru Jesus' sacrifice. This is a lie. For his work is complete and finished and satisfactory in the eyes of the Father and nothing more needs to be added!

If these other sacrificial animal offerings in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are a symbol meanings of a different sacrifice. Then these symbolic meaning will be manifested in there time. And I am told even some are working on such a project of proof of these figures being symbolism's even now. And with their cooperation I might consider another book on that very subject.

You of course Waterman, you will not give it a very high rating I am sure. Just like you rated my last published book ("ENIGMATIC SUNRISE") as a (3 out of 5) because your name wasn't mention as one of the characters in it..lol. However, you were mentioned in the introduction, guess that wasn't good enough for you..lol. I am glad I never gave you my other book, you might have rated it even less, you wasn't mentioned in it at all..lol.
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You just can't see what I see sword...but you will in the end...thanks for the karma.

You probably should have read those last few emails I sent you as they went into more detail about this subject...I won't twist anyones arm to read something...I just supply it and you can do with it what you want. It's probably not for you to read but for me to give you the opprotunity to read it.

I'd give you some good Karma but I already did this week.

dwight
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I seek to give good karma because I am not vindictive. But it doesn't mean I am in agreement with your analysis.

Listen to all of these individuals telling you as I have been for yrs. that you're not correct scripturally or any other way except within your own understanding of the nonsense you have convinced yourself to believe.

You are following traditional beliefs of the past and tradition makes the word of God of none effect (Mark.7:13KJV). In other-words tradition, is a tool used in Satan's arsenal to confound the weak minded in those who seek to follow Christ. Stop working for the adversary!

It's only because you have convinced yourself that you are that high priest and also one of the two witnesses, and every other famous biblical member of the body of Christ. From the man Israel, Joseph, Eve, Elijah, and who knows who else you are claiming to be this week. Not true, not so.

You have been seeking to convince me of these fantasies for over a decade. You are not any of these characters you claim to be. You have no confirmation of these claims, not even a member of your family, not even your dog. And such beliefs are demonically inspired when they come forth out of your own imagination (2 Cor.10:5KJV).

Not having two or three witnesses come forth to confirm such a belief of your own imaginings (2 Cor.13:1KJV) is not biblical. And stop telling me Jesus didn't have two or three witnesses but his Father only. The Lord would not violate his own Word. Jesus had John the Baptist testify he was the lamb of God, and Peter declared he was the Son of the living God, and even the Roman guard professed Jesus was surely the Son of God.

This is why I keep telling you to repent but you are so full of pride and arrogance and a hubris attitude you cannot or dare not face the truth of your own folly. Son and I am allowed to call you this for you and I know it is true. If you do not cease from these foolish claims and repent. You are in great danger not because of your misleading but for misleading the simple minded in a direction that seeks to manifest Jesus Christ as a temporary sacrifice, which shall never prove to be a truth in God's Word!

And you will never substitute Jesus for some other animal sacrifices. These sacrifices in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are symbolic in the spiritual sense and they are not exactly reality in the physical. Conducted not by a high priest as you claim (but none shown in these passages), but priest's only and the (prince in/of Israel). Nevertheless, the sacrifices in the temple of (Rev.11:1KJV) will consist of animals not because of God's will but because of the understanding of unbelievers.

For even God is not speaking of the same temple in (Rev.11:1KJV), men will build but he speaks of another temple. He calls it the temple of God in (Rev.11:1KJV) God would never call a temple sacrificing animals and allow the antichrist to dwell therein. Not in the temple that God is speaking of in this verse (Rev.11:1KJV). But men with Satan's help in mockery misinterpret it as one built by men's hands. And sadly many Christians understand it wrongly even dedication offerings for its construction. Lessening the importance of the sacrificial offer of the our Lord!

Nevertheless, God was speaking of the measuring by a Rod (Jesus Christ) of the temple of God, (Rev.11:1KJV) the total body intake in those days, the end days, when the sacrificial Lamb had and has already been offered 2000 yrs. earlier (for we the believers in Christ be the true body of Christ. Thus, this is why the Word called it the temple of God the only true temple the believers in Christ.

For anything that contradicts the Word of God. As if something more is needed to substitute God's finished sacrificial work thru Jesus' sacrifice. This is a lie. For his work is complete and finished and satisfactory in the eyes of the Father and nothing more needs to be added!

If these other sacrificial animal offerings in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are a symbol meanings of a different sacrifice. Then these symbolic meaning will be manifested in there time. And I am told even some are working on such a project of proof of these figures being symbolism's even now. And with their cooperation I might consider another book on that very subject.

You of course Waterman, you will not give it a very high rating I am sure. Just like you rated my last published book ("ENIGMATIC SUNRISE") as a (3 out of 5) because your name wasn't mention as one of the characters in it..lol. However, you were mentioned in the introduction, guess that wasn't good enough for you..lol. I am glad I never gave you my other book, you might have rated it even less, you wasn't mentioned in it at all..lol.
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I’m 80% sure I have the dog in agreement with me already but it’s only cause I talk to him the most.

I gotta ask did you read the email I sent titled”this is a small sample of how I know who we are”. Or something similar to that and gave example after example of the two anointed….if not let me send it to you on here and you can give me a response as how I am wrong.


I gave your book a 3 because you plowed a bunch of scripture but then you gave all the blessings and inheritance to a single anointed and the other anointed was no where to be found because you can’t see the other anointed.

You do this because you have melchekzedek vision when reading scripture for the millennium. You see Jesus and the 1st born ruling over everybody jeeews and gentiles on earth with an empty heaven. If I suggest there are two kingdoms one in heaven and the other on earth suddenly I have become your enemy a usurper if you will…there was someone in the Bible that was a usurper but I can’t quite remember his name right now…lol

You think you need the 1st born birthright for some reason and that birthright will do nothing for you. Here is what the birthright does: 1. It gives a 2 nd born 1 st born son status so the 2 nd born can be considered an Israel also. That way you have a masculine israel and a feminine israel. If you are already a firstborn son Adam then you don’t need the birthright as you are already an Israel. It’s only the 2 nd born feminine that needs the change to qualify as 1st born to also become an Israel. Then being earth is davidic/levitic when you are the king you can’t be the high priest…so you couldn’t even use it for the priesthood . So having 2 firstborn status certificates does nothing for you. You could hang that 2nd one in a closest cause there would be no use for you being 1st born twice.

Esau summes up a 1st born mentality perfectly “ he took my birthright and now he has taken my blessing?”…. What was the 1st blessing Jacob handed out? It was the scepter blessing/kingship. What is David going to be on earth during the millennium? The king…that tells us David’s blessing is Judah/Israel blessing. The birthright will be useless to you as your inheritance is the Judah scepter. You can’t have 2 inheritances so that is why there are 2 Israel’s so one has the scepter dominion and the other uses the birthright for 1stborn status to run the priesthood.

If you run the perfect melchekzedek order as a full kingdom on earth you will ruin it as sin will still be in the earth during the mellinnium…this is why Jesus said “ my kingdom is not of this earth and also said my kingdom will never pass away….guess what this earth passes away after the millennium so Jesus’ kingdom won’t be on earth so it must not be a melchekzedek kingdom and all you have to do is read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and they tell you it is a davidic levitic kingdom where the king can’t be the high priest and the high priest offers a sin offering sacrifice for himself and the people.

Remember Jesus said the law will not pass away until the end of the world…it is just put on pause until the age of grace is over and Jesus is done dealing with the gentiles and begins dealing with the jeeews for the duration of the millennium.

Certainly the jeeews will have to believe in Jesus for salvation but will follow the law for holiness as satan will be bound for 1000 years and it will be possible to follow the law for holiness…not for salvation but for holiness


5 things happen when you make the earth a davidic/levitic kingdom on earth for the millennial age:

1. God keeps his covenant with Adam the 1st born and Eve the 2nd born to have dominion over everything genesis 1:28

2. You keep Jeremiah and Ezekiel from being false prophets

3. You make Jesus’ throne in heaven higher than David’s on earth. As Jesus would be King and High Priest melchekzedek order in heaven and David would just be king and it would take another anointed to fill the office of high priest on earth.

4. You persevere the melchekzedek order kingdom for the new heaven and new earth after the millennium

5. You give the jeeews a goal to achieve which is to become melchekzedek order kings and priests ….if you make jeeews kings and priests at the beginning of the millennium you gave them the prize before they ran the race.



By the way John didn't tesify who Jesus was until the 1st day of Jesus' ministry...and Peter and the guard didn’t recognize Jesus either until after Jesus started his ministry …just so ya know….lol

One more reason we know ezekiel 40's isn't symbolic and is truly a levtic priesthood:


You can tell it is a levitic preisthood if the priest offers up sacrifice for the sins of the people and his own sins and that is exactly what ezekiel 45 tells us is happening:



Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.







Reminder there are 2 Israels and Israel means to rule as a "prince" with God...the two postions are the kingship and the priesthood...so this prince in ezekeil 45 is the high priest prince not the king prince.….two Israel’s = two prince one the king prince the other the high priest prince.




Here comes the proof the millenial kingdom priesthood is levitic.....the high priest is offering a sin offering for himself and the people:

Ezekiel 45:22-25 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the festival he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD, and a male goat for a sin offering.




Why is it a levitic priesthood because there is still sin and death going on during the millennium so if the priests are dying they aren't melchelzedek priests they are levtic priests which we know during the millennium there is death and sin and over a thousand years I'm sure some of the levitic priests are going to die showing the priesthood is not melchelzedek


Here it comes...the sign of a melchelzedek priesthood is there is no death of the priests:

Hebrews 7:

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;


Ezekiel 45 showing the levtic priests back in the temple....cmon man!...lol...how do you not see the earthly kingdom is levtic priesthood....is it you can't see it or you don't want to see it?



Ezekiel 45:

9 “The district that you shall set apart for the Lord shall be twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width. 10 To these—to the priests—the holy district shall belong: on the north twenty-five thousand cubits in length, on the west ten thousand in width, on the east ten thousand in width, and on the south twenty-five thousand in length. The sanctuary of the Lord shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. 12 And this district of land that is set apart shall be to them a thing most holy by the border of the Levites.

13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites
shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand. 14 And they shall not sell or exchange any of it; they may not alienate this best part of the land, for it is holy to the Lord.









Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.


So being there is a levitic priesthood being instituted on earth then you can't bring another priestood into the same kingdom as hebrews 8 states if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn't even be a high priest:


Hebrews 8:
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:


So you can't have 2 priesthoods on earth just as you can't have 2 kings ruling the same kingdom....that is why there are 2 kingdoms...the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom that Jesus rules and the lesser davidic/levitic kingdom on earth where the two offices are divided between the two anointed____that is why you need two anointed and that is why they will sit on Jesus’ left and right after the millennium as an eternal reminder of the former earth and former davidic/levitic kingdom

Don't bring expensive china to a picnic..which means don't institute the perfect eternal flawless sinless melchelzedek order priesthood to an earthly kingdom that has sin and death in it during the millennium....wait for the new heaven and new earth to bring out the good china...lol

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You just can't see what I see sword...but you will in the end...thanks for the karma.

You probably should have read those last few emails I sent you as they went into more detail about this subject...I won't twist anyones arm to read something...I just supply it and you can do with it what you want. It's probably not for you to read but for me to give you the opprotunity to read it.

I'd give you some good Karma but I already did this week.

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I seek to give good karma because I am not vindictive. But it doesn't mean I am in agreement with your analysis.

Listen to all of these individuals telling you as I have been for yrs. that you're not correct scripturally or any other way except within your own understanding of the nonsense you have convinced yourself to believe.

You are following traditional beliefs of the past and tradition makes the word of God of none effect (Mark.7:13KJV). In other-words tradition, is a tool used in Satan's arsenal to confound the weak minded in those who seek to follow Christ. Stop working for the adversary!

It's only because you have convinced yourself that you are that high priest and also one of the two witnesses, and every other famous biblical member of the body of Christ. From the man Israel, Joseph, Eve, Elijah, and who knows who else you are claiming to be this week. Not true, not so.

You have been seeking to convince me of these fantasies for over a decade. You are not any of these characters you claim to be. You have no confirmation of these claims, not even a member of your family, not even your dog. And such beliefs are demonically inspired when they come forth out of your own imagination (2 Cor.10:5KJV).

Not having two or three witnesses come forth to confirm such a belief of your own imaginings (2 Cor.13:1KJV) is not biblical. And stop telling me Jesus didn't have two or three witnesses but his Father only. The Lord would not violate his own Word. Jesus had John the Baptist testify he was the lamb of God, and Peter declared he was the Son of the living God, and even the Roman guard professed Jesus was surely the Son of God.

This is why I keep telling you to repent but you are so full of pride and arrogance and a hubris attitude you cannot or dare not face the truth of your own folly. Son and I am allowed to call you this for you and I know it is true. If you do not cease from these foolish claims and repent. You are in great danger not because of your misleading but for misleading the simple minded in a direction that seeks to manifest Jesus Christ as a temporary sacrifice, which shall never prove to be a truth in God's Word!

And you will never substitute Jesus for some other animal sacrifices. These sacrifices in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are symbolic in the spiritual sense and they are not exactly reality in the physical. Conducted not by a high priest as you claim (but none shown in these passages), but priest's only and the (prince in/of Israel). Nevertheless, the sacrifices in the temple of (Rev.11:1KJV) will consist of animals not because of God's will but because of the understanding of unbelievers.

For even God is not speaking of the same temple in (Rev.11:1KJV), men will build but he speaks of another temple. He calls it the temple of God in (Rev.11:1KJV) God would never call a temple sacrificing animals and allow the antichrist to dwell therein. Not in the temple that God is speaking of in this verse (Rev.11:1KJV). But men with Satan's help in mockery misinterpret it as one built by men's hands. And sadly many Christians understand it wrongly even dedication offerings for its construction. Lessening the importance of the sacrificial offer of the our Lord!

Nevertheless, God was speaking of the measuring by a Rod (Jesus Christ) of the temple of God, (Rev.11:1KJV) the total body intake in those days, the end days, when the sacrificial Lamb had and has already been offered 2000 yrs. earlier (for we the believers in Christ be the true body of Christ. Thus, this is why the Word called it the temple of God the only true temple the believers in Christ.

For anything that contradicts the Word of God. As if something more is needed to substitute God's finished sacrificial work thru Jesus' sacrifice. This is a lie. For his work is complete and finished and satisfactory in the eyes of the Father and nothing more needs to be added!

If these other sacrificial animal offerings in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are a symbol meanings of a different sacrifice. Then these symbolic meaning will be manifested in there time. And I am told even some are working on such a project of proof of these figures being symbolism's even now. And with their cooperation I might consider another book on that very subject.

You of course Waterman, you will not give it a very high rating I am sure. Just like you rated my last published book ("ENIGMATIC SUNRISE") as a (3 out of 5) because your name wasn't mention as one of the characters in it..lol. However, you were mentioned in the introduction, guess that wasn't good enough for you..lol. I am glad I never gave you my other book, you might have rated it even less, you wasn't mentioned in it at all..lol.
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I’m 80% sure I have the dog in agreement with me already but it’s only cause I talk to him the most.

I gotta ask did you read the email I sent titled”this is a small sample of how I know who we are”. Or something similar to that and gave example after example of the two anointed….if not let me send it to you on here and you can give me a response as how I am wrong.


I gave your book a 3 because you plowed a bunch of scripture but then you gave all the blessings and inheritance to a single anointed and the other anointed was no where to be found because you can’t see the other anointed.

You do this because you have melchekzedek vision when reading scripture for the millennium. You see Jesus and the 1st born ruling over everybody jeeews and gentiles on earth with an empty heaven. If I suggest there are two kingdoms one in heaven and the other on earth suddenly I have become your enemy a usurper if you will…there was someone in the Bible that was a usurper but I can’t quite remember his name right now…lol

You think you need the 1st born birthright for some reason and that birthright will do nothing for you. Here is what the birthright does: 1. It gives a 2 nd born 1 st born son status so the 2 nd born can be considered an Israel also. That way you have a masculine israel and a feminine israel. If you are already a firstborn son Adam then you don’t need the birthright as you are already an Israel. It’s only the 2 nd born feminine that needs the change to qualify as 1st born to also become an Israel. Then being earth is davidic/levitic when you are the king you can’t be the high priest…so you couldn’t even use it for the priesthood . So having 2 firstborn status certificates does nothing for you. You could hang that 2nd one in a closest cause there would be no use for you being 1st born twice.

Esau summes up a 1st born mentality perfectly “ he took my birthright and now he has taken my blessing?”…. What was the 1st blessing Jacob handed out? It was the scepter blessing/kingship. What is David going to be on earth during the millennium? The king…that tells us David’s blessing is Judah/Israel blessing. The birthright will be useless to you as your inheritance is the Judah scepter. You can’t have 2 inheritances so that is why there are 2 Israel’s so one has the scepter dominion and the other uses the birthright for 1stborn status to run the priesthood.

If you run the perfect melchekzedek order as a full kingdom on earth you will ruin it as sin will still be in the earth during the mellinnium…this is why Jesus said “ my kingdom is not of this earth and also said my kingdom will never pass away….guess what this earth passes away after the millennium so Jesus’ kingdom won’t be on earth so it must not be a melchekzedek kingdom and all you have to do is read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and they tell you it is a davidic levitic kingdom where the king can’t be the high priest and the high priest offers a sin offering sacrifice for himself and the people.

Remember Jesus said the law will not pass away until the end of the world…it is just put on pause until the age of grace is over and Jesus is done dealing with the gentiles and begins dealing with the jeeews for the duration of the millennium.

Certainly the jeeews will have to believe in Jesus for salvation but will follow the law for holiness as satan will be bound for 1000 years and it will be possible to follow the law for holiness…not for salvation but for holiness


5 things happen when you make the earth a davidic/levitic kingdom on earth for the millennial age:

1. God keeps his covenant with Adam the 1st born and Eve the 2nd born to have dominion over everything genesis 1:28

2. You keep Jeremiah and Ezekiel from being false prophets

3. You make Jesus’ throne in heaven higher than David’s on earth. As Jesus would be King and High Priest melchekzedek order in heaven and David would just be king and it would take another anointed to fill the office of high priest on earth.

4. You persevere the melchekzedek order kingdom for the new heaven and new earth after the millennium

5. You give the jeeews a goal to achieve which is to become melchekzedek order kings and priests ….if you make jeeews kings and priests at the beginning of the millennium you gave them the prize before they ran the race.



By the way John didn't tesify who Jesus was until the 1st day of Jesus' ministry...and Peter and the guard didn’t recognize Jesus either until after Jesus started his ministry …just so ya know….lol

One more reason we know ezekiel 40's isn't symbolic and is truly a levtic priesthood:


You can tell it is a levitic preisthood if the priest offers up sacrifice for the sins of the people and his own sins and that is exactly what ezekiel 45 tells us is happening:



Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.







Reminder there are 2 Israels and Israel means to rule as a "prince" with God...the two postions are the kingship and the priesthood...so this prince in ezekeil 45 is the high priest prince. not the king prince.….two Israel’s = two prince one the king the other the high priest.




Here comes the proof the millenial kingdom priesthood is levitic.....the high priest is offering a sin offering for himself and the people:

Ezekiel 45:22-25 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the festival he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD, and a male goat for a sin offering.




Why is it a levitic priesthood because there is still sin and death going on during the millennium so if the priests are dying they aren't melchelzedek priests they are levtic priests which we know during the millennium there is death and sin and over a thousand years I'm sure some of the levitic priests are going to die showing the priesthood is not melchelzedek


Here it comes...the sign of a melchelzedek priesthood is there is no death of the priests:

Hebrews 7:

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;


Ezekiel 45 showing the levtic priests back in the temple....cmon man!...lol...how do you not see the earthly kingdom is levtic priesthood....is it you can't see it or you don't want to see it?



Ezekiel 45:

9 “The district that you shall set apart for the Lord shall be twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width. 10 To these—to the priests—the holy district shall belong: on the north twenty-five thousand cubits in length, on the west ten thousand in width, on the east ten thousand in width, and on the south twenty-five thousand in length. The sanctuary of the Lord shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. 12 And this district of land that is set apart shall be to them a thing most holy by the border of the Levites.

13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites
shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand. 14 And they shall not sell or exchange any of it; they may not alienate this best part of the land, for it is holy to the Lord.









Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.


So being there is a levitic priesthood being instituted on earth then you can't bring another priestood into the same kingdom as hebrews 8 states if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn't even be a high priest:


Hebrews 8:
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:


So you can't have 2 priesthoods on earth just as you can't have 2 kings ruling the same kingdom....that is why there are 2 kingdoms...the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom that Jesus rules and the lesser davidic/levitic kingdom on earth where the two offices are divided between the two anointed____that is why you need two anointed and that is why they will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

Don't bring expensive china to a picnic..which means don't institute the perfect eternal flawless sinless melchelzedek order priesthood to an earthly kingdom that has sin and death in it during the millennium....wait for the new heaven and new earth to bring out the good china...lol
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I gave you one of many reasons why there will be a Melchizedek order starting in the last days in a YouTube video stating 20 min in of a 42 min session: "What God Revealed To Me About The Mystery of Melchizedek".

It really doesn't matter what you're told about the order of things, no one is trying to usurp your imaginary position/s. Not me or any other possessing a sound mind. Your order of proof is based on one premise only and that not of exhorting Jesus Christ and his purposed objective. But to promote your own position of recognition and who you think you are.

As I have told you many times beforehand, believe as you will it makes no difference in the final analysis. What will come to pass will come and life will continue on regardless of our opinions.

No I have no desire to read another email from you. I have read my fill. You have a tendency to embellish everything to fit your paradigm. In other words your hyperbolas direction to prove a point is often not even scriptural and toward the twisting of the Word of God in a more poignant position to satisfy your objective. What objective? To prove you are an anointed one and not just an anointed one but the greater of the anointed one's besides Jesus, even reaching the order of the one on the right hand of Christ.

Oh yes, by the way, the order of the position of a King, king, and high priest on his right and left hand is not so. But your picture depicts the position of a High Priest, a king and a prophet. At least get the order right if you're going to profess somewhat of a truth.

I am not ever going to endorse you as an anointed one, so forget it, look for another to convince. But it better be from the Lord's revelation not something made-up.

Perhaps Base 12 would dare tempt the hand of fate he seems convince you are someone to promote. I don't know if it's because you could then promote one another or perhaps he has a desire for a more forceful position..lol.

And I doubt your dog would endorse you either if he could speak. Otherwise, you are an expert at brain washing and your wife would throw you and that dog out together. Because you definitely haven't convince her of you lofty position as one of the witnesses..lol. And don't pretend a prophet is not without honor except among his own kin. It never applied to me in this fashion or peter; or many other prophets when it comes to witnesses bearing proof of their claims.

Repent of your self-arrogance and pride and self-exhortation and start new, seeking that first love if you had ever known it to begin with.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
I have some thoughts and opinions on Ezekiel's Temple. I will share them here.

I do not believe that Ezekiel's Temple, described so vividly in the last several chapters of the Book of Ezekiel, will ever be built.

The reason for this may be found in Ezekiel 43, beginning with this verse...

Ezekiel 43:9
"Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever."


There is a very specific and important condition being set up here. If the Israelites repent, God will dwell with them. In other words, God will help build the infamous Ezekiel's Temple right then and there.

Next verse...

Ezekiel 43:11
"And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them."


There we see it again. If the Israelites 'be ashamed', God commands Ezekiel to show them the blueprints so that it may be built.

We all know what happened. The Israelites DID NOT repent. They were NOT ashamed. Thus, we MUST conclude that Ezekiel did as God commanded and did NOT show them the blueprints.

Long story short, Ezekiel's Temple was never built, and will never be built because it was a conditional promise that was never fulfilled. The plans were scrapped, and Plan-B... the New Testament... was born.

Now we have New Jerusalem as the replacement. Yes, there are similarities, but they are not the same obviously.

I know Waterman has a lot invested in Ezekiel's Temple being future, so I will not say much more than what I have already.

I would also like to address the subject of 'Death in the Millennial Kingdom'. I do not agree with that either.

Let us look at a relevant verse...

Isaiah 65:20
"There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."


Upon first glance, it would appear that the verse is claiming that there will be 'hundred-year-old children dying'. In addition, there will be 'accursed sinners'.

The problem lies in the interpretation of the word 'for'. It should be understood as to mean 'otherwise'...

Isaiah 65:20
"There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for [otherwise] the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."


The verse is simply pointing out the absurdity of everyone staying the same age as they died and having to live like that for hundreds of years.

Imagine a fetus being resurrected as a fetus and having to live like that permanently. Or imagine someone dying of old age and again, being resurrected in that old body only to have to stay in that condition.

No, everyone will be Born Again the same age, in a Glorified Body. I.e., no more will there be an infant of days, etc.

I hope this is making sense. I look forward to any corrections you folks may have.
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You just can't see what I see sword...but you will in the end...thanks for the karma.

You probably should have read those last few emails I sent you as they went into more detail about this subject...I won't twist anyones arm to read something...I just supply it and you can do with it what you want. It's probably not for you to read but for me to give you the opprotunity to read it.

I'd give you some good Karma but I already did this week.

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I seek to give good karma because I am not vindictive. But it doesn't mean I am in agreement with your analysis.

Listen to all of these individuals telling you as I have been for yrs. that you're not correct scripturally or any other way except within your own understanding of the nonsense you have convinced yourself to believe.

You are following traditional beliefs of the past and tradition makes the word of God of none effect (Mark.7:13KJV). In other-words tradition, is a tool used in Satan's arsenal to confound the weak minded in those who seek to follow Christ. Stop working for the adversary!

It's only because you have convinced yourself that you are that high priest and also one of the two witnesses, and every other famous biblical member of the body of Christ. From the man Israel, Joseph, Eve, Elijah, and who knows who else you are claiming to be this week. Not true, not so.

You have been seeking to convince me of these fantasies for over a decade. You are not any of these characters you claim to be. You have no confirmation of these claims, not even a member of your family, not even your dog. And such beliefs are demonically inspired when they come forth out of your own imagination (2 Cor.10:5KJV).

Not having two or three witnesses come forth to confirm such a belief of your own imaginings (2 Cor.13:1KJV) is not biblical. And stop telling me Jesus didn't have two or three witnesses but his Father only. The Lord would not violate his own Word. Jesus had John the Baptist testify he was the lamb of God, and Peter declared he was the Son of the living God, and even the Roman guard professed Jesus was surely the Son of God.

This is why I keep telling you to repent but you are so full of pride and arrogance and a hubris attitude you cannot or dare not face the truth of your own folly. Son and I am allowed to call you this for you and I know it is true. If you do not cease from these foolish claims and repent. You are in great danger not because of your misleading but for misleading the simple minded in a direction that seeks to manifest Jesus Christ as a temporary sacrifice, which shall never prove to be a truth in God's Word!

And you will never substitute Jesus for some other animal sacrifices. These sacrifices in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are symbolic in the spiritual sense and they are not exactly reality in the physical. Conducted not by a high priest as you claim (but none shown in these passages), but priest's only and the (prince in/of Israel). Nevertheless, the sacrifices in the temple of (Rev.11:1KJV) will consist of animals not because of God's will but because of the understanding of unbelievers.

For even God is not speaking of the same temple in (Rev.11:1KJV), men will build but he speaks of another temple. He calls it the temple of God in (Rev.11:1KJV) God would never call a temple sacrificing animals and allow the antichrist to dwell therein. Not in the temple that God is speaking of in this verse (Rev.11:1KJV). But men with Satan's help in mockery misinterpret it as one built by men's hands. And sadly many Christians understand it wrongly even dedication offerings for its construction. Lessening the importance of the sacrificial offer of the our Lord!

Nevertheless, God was speaking of the measuring by a Rod (Jesus Christ) of the temple of God, (Rev.11:1KJV) the total body intake in those days, the end days, when the sacrificial Lamb had and has already been offered 2000 yrs. earlier (for we the believers in Christ be the true body of Christ. Thus, this is why the Word called it the temple of God the only true temple the believers in Christ.

For anything that contradicts the Word of God. As if something more is needed to substitute God's finished sacrificial work thru Jesus' sacrifice. This is a lie. For his work is complete and finished and satisfactory in the eyes of the Father and nothing more needs to be added!

If these other sacrificial animal offerings in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are a symbol meanings of a different sacrifice. Then these symbolic meaning will be manifested in there time. And I am told even some are working on such a project of proof of these figures being symbolism's even now. And with their cooperation I might consider another book on that very subject.

You of course Waterman, you will not give it a very high rating I am sure. Just like you rated my last published book ("ENIGMATIC SUNRISE") as a (3 out of 5) because your name wasn't mention as one of the characters in it..lol. However, you were mentioned in the introduction, guess that wasn't good enough for you..lol. I am glad I never gave you my other book, you might have rated it even less, you wasn't mentioned in it at all..lol.
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I’m 80% sure I have the dog in agreement with me already but it’s only cause I talk to him the most.

I gotta ask did you read the email I sent titled”this is a small sample of how I know who we are”. Or something similar to that and gave example after example of the two anointed….if not let me send it to you on here and you can give me a response as how I am wrong.


I gave your book a 3 because you plowed a bunch of scripture but then you gave all the blessings and inheritance to a single anointed and the other anointed was no where to be found because you can’t see the other anointed.

You do this because you have melchekzedek vision when reading scripture for the millennium. You see Jesus and the 1st born ruling over everybody jeeews and gentiles on earth with an empty heaven. If I suggest there are two kingdoms one in heaven and the other on earth suddenly I have become your enemy a usurper if you will…there was someone in the Bible that was a usurper but I can’t quite remember his name right now…lol

You think you need the 1st born birthright for some reason and that birthright will do nothing for you. Here is what the birthright does: 1. It gives a 2 nd born 1 st born son status so the 2 nd born can be considered an Israel also. That way you have a masculine israel and a feminine israel. If you are already a firstborn son Adam then you don’t need the birthright as you are already an Israel. It’s only the 2 nd born feminine that needs the change to qualify as 1st born to also become an Israel. Then being earth is davidic/levitic when you are the king you can’t be the high priest…so you couldn’t even use it for the priesthood . So having 2 firstborn status certificates does nothing for you. You could hang that 2nd one in a closest cause there would be no use for you being 1st born twice.

Esau summes up a 1st born mentality perfectly “ he took my birthright and now he has taken my blessing?”…. What was the 1st blessing Jacob handed out? It was the scepter blessing/kingship. What is David going to be on earth during the millennium? The king…that tells us David’s blessing is Judah/Israel blessing. The birthright will be useless to you as your inheritance is the Judah scepter. You can’t have 2 inheritances so that is why there are 2 Israel’s so one has the scepter dominion and the other uses the birthright for 1stborn status to run the priesthood.

If you run the perfect melchekzedek order as a full kingdom on earth you will ruin it as sin will still be in the earth during the mellinnium…this is why Jesus said “ my kingdom is not of this earth and also said my kingdom will never pass away….guess what this earth passes away after the millennium so Jesus’ kingdom won’t be on earth so it must not be a melchekzedek kingdom and all you have to do is read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and they tell you it is a davidic levitic kingdom where the king can’t be the high priest and the high priest offers a sin offering sacrifice for himself and the people.

Remember Jesus said the law will not pass away until the end of the world…it is just put on pause until the age of grace is over and Jesus is done dealing with the gentiles and begins dealing with the jeeews for the duration of the millennium.

Certainly the jeeews will have to believe in Jesus for salvation but will follow the law for holiness as satan will be bound for 1000 years and it will be possible to follow the law for holiness…not for salvation but for holiness


5 things happen when you make the earth a davidic/levitic kingdom on earth for the millennial age:

1. God keeps his covenant with Adam the 1st born and Eve the 2nd born to have dominion over everything genesis 1:28

2. You keep Jeremiah and Ezekiel from being false prophets

3. You make Jesus’ throne in heaven higher than David’s on earth. As Jesus would be King and High Priest melchekzedek order in heaven and David would just be king and it would take another anointed to fill the office of high priest on earth.

4. You persevere the melchekzedek order kingdom for the new heaven and new earth after the millennium

5. You give the jeeews a goal to achieve which is to become melchekzedek order kings and priests ….if you make jeeews kings and priests at the beginning of the millennium you gave them the prize before they ran the race.



By the way John didn't tesify who Jesus was until the 1st day of Jesus' ministry...and Peter and the guard didn’t recognize Jesus either until after Jesus started his ministry …just so ya know….lol

One more reason we know ezekiel 40's isn't symbolic and is truly a levtic priesthood:


You can tell it is a levitic preisthood if the priest offers up sacrifice for the sins of the people and his own sins and that is exactly what ezekiel 45 tells us is happening:



Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.







Reminder there are 2 Israels and Israel means to rule as a "prince" with God...the two postions are the kingship and the priesthood...so this prince in ezekeil 45 is the high priest prince. not the king prince.….two Israel’s = two prince one the king the other the high priest.




Here comes the proof the millenial kingdom priesthood is levitic.....the high priest is offering a sin offering for himself and the people:

Ezekiel 45:22-25 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the festival he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD, and a male goat for a sin offering.




Why is it a levitic priesthood because there is still sin and death going on during the millennium so if the priests are dying they aren't melchelzedek priests they are levtic priests which we know during the millennium there is death and sin and over a thousand years I'm sure some of the levitic priests are going to die showing the priesthood is not melchelzedek


Here it comes...the sign of a melchelzedek priesthood is there is no death of the priests:

Hebrews 7:

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;


Ezekiel 45 showing the levtic priests back in the temple....cmon man!...lol...how do you not see the earthly kingdom is levtic priesthood....is it you can't see it or you don't want to see it?



Ezekiel 45:

9 “The district that you shall set apart for the Lord shall be twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width. 10 To these—to the priests—the holy district shall belong: on the north twenty-five thousand cubits in length, on the west ten thousand in width, on the east ten thousand in width, and on the south twenty-five thousand in length. The sanctuary of the Lord shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. 12 And this district of land that is set apart shall be to them a thing most holy by the border of the Levites.

13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites
shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand. 14 And they shall not sell or exchange any of it; they may not alienate this best part of the land, for it is holy to the Lord.









Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.


So being there is a levitic priesthood being instituted on earth then you can't bring another priestood into the same kingdom as hebrews 8 states if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn't even be a high priest:


Hebrews 8:
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:


So you can't have 2 priesthoods on earth just as you can't have 2 kings ruling the same kingdom....that is why there are 2 kingdoms...the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom that Jesus rules and the lesser davidic/levitic kingdom on earth where the two offices are divided between the two anointed____that is why you need two anointed and that is why they will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

Don't bring expensive china to a picnic..which means don't institute the perfect eternal flawless sinless melchelzedek order priesthood to an earthly kingdom that has sin and death in it during the millennium....wait for the new heaven and new earth to bring out the good china...lol
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I gave you one of many reasons why there will be a Melchizedek order starting in the last days in a YouTube video stating 20 min in of a 42 min session: "What God Revealed To Me About The Mystery of Melchizedek".

It really doesn't matter what you're told about the order of things, no one is trying to usurp your imaginary position/s. Not me or any other possessing a sound mind. Your order of proof is based on one premise only and that not of exhorting Jesus Christ and his purposed objective. But to promote your own position of recognition and who you think you are.

As I have told you many times beforehand, believe as you will it makes no difference in the final analysis. What will come to pass will come and life will continue on regardless of our opinions.

No I have no desire to read another email from you. I have read my fill. You have a tendency to embellish everything to fit your paradigm. In other words your hyperbolas direction to prove a point is often not even scriptural and toward the twisting of the Word of God in a more poignant position to satisfy your objective. What objective? To prove you are an anointed one and not just an anointed one but the greater of the anointed one's besides Jesus, even reaching the order of the one on the right hand of Christ.

Oh yes, by the way, the order of the position of a King, king, and high priest on his right and left hand is not so. But your picture depicts the position of a High Priest, a king and a prophet. At least get the order right if you're going to profess somewhat of a truth.

I am not ever going to endorse you as an anointed one, so forget it, look for another to convince. But it better be from the Lord's revelation not something made-up.

Perhaps Base 12 would dare tempt the hand of fate he seems convince you are someone to promote. I don't know if it's because you could then promote one another or perhaps he has a desire for a more forceful position..lol.

And I doubt your dog would endorse you either if he could speak. Otherwise, you are an expert at brain washing and your wife would throw you and that dog out together. Because you definitely haven't convince her of you lofty position as one of the witnesses..lol. And don't pretend a prophet is not without honor except among his own kin. It never applied to me in this fashion or peter; or many other prophets when it comes to witnesses bearing proof of their claims.

Repent of your self-arrogance and pride and self-exhortation and start new, seeking that first love if you had ever known it to begin with.
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It's not up to you or anyone to endorse me as it has already been written...I'm already endorsed by God through his scriptures.

You are concerned too much if the one on Jesus' right is the greater one.....they are both Israels so they will be equally great in their own way...one natural and the other through the birthright.....to say the one on the right is greater is to say which is Jesus' greater atribute his Kingship or His Priesthood....they both have their own qualities.

I didn't make the picture of the king and high priest on each side of Jesus someone else did...but I thought you might be able to get the gist of the meaning of the picture.

I don't know why I would need to repent for posting truth and showing that Jesus is going to be higer than you in throne and office....if you get time read that above post it explains the 2 Israels but if not that's ok too...I enjoyed writing it.

Well don't go away mad...sift through what I posted maybe you can find a grain of wisdom in it..lol.

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I seek to give good karma because I am not vindictive. But it doesn't mean I am in agreement with your analysis.

Listen to all of these individuals telling you as I have been for yrs. that you're not correct scripturally or any other way except within your own understanding of the nonsense you have convinced yourself to believe.

You are following traditional beliefs of the past and tradition makes the word of God of none effect (Mark.7:13KJV). In other-words tradition, is a tool used in Satan's arsenal to confound the weak minded in those who seek to follow Christ. Stop working for the adversary!

It's only because you have convinced yourself that you are that high priest and also one of the two witnesses, and every other famous biblical member of the body of Christ. From the man Israel, Joseph, Eve, Elijah, and who knows who else you are claiming to be this week. Not true, not so.

You have been seeking to convince me of these fantasies for over a decade. You are not any of these characters you claim to be. You have no confirmation of these claims, not even a member of your family, not even your dog. And such beliefs are demonically inspired when they come forth out of your own imagination (2 Cor.10:5KJV).

Not having two or three witnesses come forth to confirm such a belief of your own imaginings (2 Cor.13:1KJV) is not biblical. And stop telling me Jesus didn't have two or three witnesses but his Father only. The Lord would not violate his own Word. Jesus had John the Baptist testify he was the lamb of God, and Peter declared he was the Son of the living God, and even the Roman guard professed Jesus was surely the Son of God.

This is why I keep telling you to repent but you are so full of pride and arrogance and a hubris attitude you cannot or dare not face the truth of your own folly. Son and I am allowed to call you this for you and I know it is true. If you do not cease from these foolish claims and repent. You are in great danger not because of your misleading but for misleading the simple minded in a direction that seeks to manifest Jesus Christ as a temporary sacrifice, which shall never prove to be a truth in God's Word!

And you will never substitute Jesus for some other animal sacrifices. These sacrifices in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are symbolic in the spiritual sense and they are not exactly reality in the physical. Conducted not by a high priest as you claim (but none shown in these passages), but priest's only and the (prince in/of Israel). Nevertheless, the sacrifices in the temple of (Rev.11:1KJV) will consist of animals not because of God's will but because of the understanding of unbelievers.

For even God is not speaking of the same temple in (Rev.11:1KJV), men will build but he speaks of another temple. He calls it the temple of God in (Rev.11:1KJV) God would never call a temple sacrificing animals and allow the antichrist to dwell therein. Not in the temple that God is speaking of in this verse (Rev.11:1KJV). But men with Satan's help in mockery misinterpret it as one built by men's hands. And sadly many Christians understand it wrongly even dedication offerings for its construction. Lessening the importance of the sacrificial offer of the our Lord!

Nevertheless, God was speaking of the measuring by a Rod (Jesus Christ) of the temple of God, (Rev.11:1KJV) the total body intake in those days, the end days, when the sacrificial Lamb had and has already been offered 2000 yrs. earlier (for we the believers in Christ be the true body of Christ. Thus, this is why the Word called it the temple of God the only true temple the believers in Christ.

For anything that contradicts the Word of God. As if something more is needed to substitute God's finished sacrificial work thru Jesus' sacrifice. This is a lie. For his work is complete and finished and satisfactory in the eyes of the Father and nothing more needs to be added!

If these other sacrificial animal offerings in (Ezek.40-48KJV) are a symbol meanings of a different sacrifice. Then these symbolic meaning will be manifested in there time. And I am told even some are working on such a project of proof of these figures being symbolism's even now. And with their cooperation I might consider another book on that very subject.

You of course Waterman, you will not give it a very high rating I am sure. Just like you rated my last published book ("ENIGMATIC SUNRISE") as a (3 out of 5) because your name wasn't mention as one of the characters in it..lol. However, you were mentioned in the introduction, guess that wasn't good enough for you..lol. I am glad I never gave you my other book, you might have rated it even less, you wasn't mentioned in it at all..lol.
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I’m 80% sure I have the dog in agreement with me already but it’s only cause I talk to him the most.

I gotta ask did you read the email I sent titled”this is a small sample of how I know who we are”. Or something similar to that and gave example after example of the two anointed….if not let me send it to you on here and you can give me a response as how I am wrong.


I gave your book a 3 because you plowed a bunch of scripture but then you gave all the blessings and inheritance to a single anointed and the other anointed was no where to be found because you can’t see the other anointed.

You do this because you have melchekzedek vision when reading scripture for the millennium. You see Jesus and the 1st born ruling over everybody jeeews and gentiles on earth with an empty heaven. If I suggest there are two kingdoms one in heaven and the other on earth suddenly I have become your enemy a usurper if you will…there was someone in the Bible that was a usurper but I can’t quite remember his name right now…lol

You think you need the 1st born birthright for some reason and that birthright will do nothing for you. Here is what the birthright does: 1. It gives a 2 nd born 1 st born son status so the 2 nd born can be considered an Israel also. That way you have a masculine israel and a feminine israel. If you are already a firstborn son Adam then you don’t need the birthright as you are already an Israel. It’s only the 2 nd born feminine that needs the change to qualify as 1st born to also become an Israel. Then being earth is davidic/levitic when you are the king you can’t be the high priest…so you couldn’t even use it for the priesthood . So having 2 firstborn status certificates does nothing for you. You could hang that 2nd one in a closest cause there would be no use for you being 1st born twice.

Esau summes up a 1st born mentality perfectly “ he took my birthright and now he has taken my blessing?”…. What was the 1st blessing Jacob handed out? It was the scepter blessing/kingship. What is David going to be on earth during the millennium? The king…that tells us David’s blessing is Judah/Israel blessing. The birthright will be useless to you as your inheritance is the Judah scepter. You can’t have 2 inheritances so that is why there are 2 Israel’s so one has the scepter dominion and the other uses the birthright for 1stborn status to run the priesthood.

If you run the perfect melchekzedek order as a full kingdom on earth you will ruin it as sin will still be in the earth during the mellinnium…this is why Jesus said “ my kingdom is not of this earth and also said my kingdom will never pass away….guess what this earth passes away after the millennium so Jesus’ kingdom won’t be on earth so it must not be a melchekzedek kingdom and all you have to do is read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and they tell you it is a davidic levitic kingdom where the king can’t be the high priest and the high priest offers a sin offering sacrifice for himself and the people.

Remember Jesus said the law will not pass away until the end of the world…it is just put on pause until the age of grace is over and Jesus is done dealing with the gentiles and begins dealing with the jeeews for the duration of the millennium.

Certainly the jeeews will have to believe in Jesus for salvation but will follow the law for holiness as satan will be bound for 1000 years and it will be possible to follow the law for holiness…not for salvation but for holiness


5 things happen when you make the earth a davidic/levitic kingdom on earth for the millennial age:

1. God keeps his covenant with Adam the 1st born and Eve the 2nd born to have dominion over everything genesis 1:28

2. You keep Jeremiah and Ezekiel from being false prophets

3. You make Jesus’ throne in heaven higher than David’s on earth. As Jesus would be King and High Priest melchekzedek order in heaven and David would just be king and it would take another anointed to fill the office of high priest on earth.

4. You persevere the melchekzedek order kingdom for the new heaven and new earth after the millennium

5. You give the jeeews a goal to achieve which is to become melchekzedek order kings and priests ….if you make jeeews kings and priests at the beginning of the millennium you gave them the prize before they ran the race.



By the way John didn't tesify who Jesus was until the 1st day of Jesus' ministry...and Peter and the guard didn’t recognize Jesus either until after Jesus started his ministry …just so ya know….lol

One more reason we know ezekiel 40's isn't symbolic and is truly a levtic priesthood:


You can tell it is a levitic preisthood if the priest offers up sacrifice for the sins of the people and his own sins and that is exactly what ezekiel 45 tells us is happening:



Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.







Reminder there are 2 Israels and Israel means to rule as a "prince" with God...the two postions are the kingship and the priesthood...so this prince in ezekeil 45 is the high priest prince. not the king prince.….two Israel’s = two prince one the king the other the high priest.




Here comes the proof the millenial kingdom priesthood is levitic.....the high priest is offering a sin offering for himself and the people:

Ezekiel 45:22-25 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the festival he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD, and a male goat for a sin offering.




Why is it a levitic priesthood because there is still sin and death going on during the millennium so if the priests are dying they aren't melchelzedek priests they are levtic priests which we know during the millennium there is death and sin and over a thousand years I'm sure some of the levitic priests are going to die showing the priesthood is not melchelzedek


Here it comes...the sign of a melchelzedek priesthood is there is no death of the priests:

Hebrews 7:

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;


Ezekiel 45 showing the levtic priests back in the temple....cmon man!...lol...how do you not see the earthly kingdom is levtic priesthood....is it you can't see it or you don't want to see it?



Ezekiel 45:

9 “The district that you shall set apart for the Lord shall be twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width. 10 To these—to the priests—the holy district shall belong: on the north twenty-five thousand cubits in length, on the west ten thousand in width, on the east ten thousand in width, and on the south twenty-five thousand in length. The sanctuary of the Lord shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. 12 And this district of land that is set apart shall be to them a thing most holy by the border of the Levites.

13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites
shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand. 14 And they shall not sell or exchange any of it; they may not alienate this best part of the land, for it is holy to the Lord.









Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.


So being there is a levitic priesthood being instituted on earth then you can't bring another priestood into the same kingdom as hebrews 8 states if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn't even be a high priest:


Hebrews 8:
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:


So you can't have 2 priesthoods on earth just as you can't have 2 kings ruling the same kingdom....that is why there are 2 kingdoms...the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom that Jesus rules and the lesser davidic/levitic kingdom on earth where the two offices are divided between the two anointed____that is why you need two anointed and that is why they will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

Don't bring expensive china to a picnic..which means don't institute the perfect eternal flawless sinless melchelzedek order priesthood to an earthly kingdom that has sin and death in it during the millennium....wait for the new heaven and new earth to bring out the good china...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I gave you one of many reasons why there will be a Melchizedek order starting in the last days in a YouTube video stating 20 min in of a 42 min session: "What God Revealed To Me About The Mystery of Melchizedek".

It really doesn't matter what you're told about the order of things, no one is trying to usurp your imaginary position/s. Not me or any other possessing a sound mind. Your order of proof is based on one premise only and that not of exhorting Jesus Christ and his purposed objective. But to promote your own position of recognition and who you think you are.

As I have told you many times beforehand, believe as you will it makes no difference in the final analysis. What will come to pass will come and life will continue on regardless of our opinions.

No I have no desire to read another email from you. I have read my fill. You have a tendency to embellish everything to fit your paradigm. In other words your hyperbolas direction to prove a point is often not even scriptural and toward the twisting of the Word of God in a more poignant position to satisfy your objective. What objective? To prove you are an anointed one and not just an anointed one but the greater of the anointed one's besides Jesus, even reaching the order of the one on the right hand of Christ.

Oh yes, by the way, the order of the position of a King, king, and high priest on his right and left hand is not so. But your picture depicts the position of a High Priest, a king and a prophet. At least get the order right if you're going to profess somewhat of a truth.

I am not ever going to endorse you as an anointed one, so forget it, look for another to convince. But it better be from the Lord's revelation not something made-up.

Perhaps Base 12 would dare tempt the hand of fate he seems convince you are someone to promote. I don't know if it's because you could then promote one another or perhaps he has a desire for a more forceful position..lol.

And I doubt your dog would endorse you either if he could speak. Otherwise, you are an expert at brain washing and your wife would throw you and that dog out together. Because you definitely haven't convince her of you lofty position as one of the witnesses..lol. And don't pretend a prophet is not without honor except among his own kin. It never applied to me in this fashion or peter; or many other prophets when it comes to witnesses bearing proof of their claims.

Repent of your self-arrogance and pride and self-exhortation and start new, seeking that first love if you had ever known it to begin with.
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It's not up to you or anyone to endorse me as it has already been written...I'm already endorsed by God through his scriptures.

You are concerned too much if the one on Jesus' right is the greater one.....they are both Israels so they will be equally great in their own way...one natural and the other through the birthright.....to say the one on the right is greater is to say which is Jesus' greater atribute his Kingship or His Priesthood....they both have their own qualities.

I didn't make the picture of the king and high priest on each side of Jesus someone else did...but I thought you might be able to get the gist of the meaning of the picture.

I don't know why I would need to repent for posting truth and showing that Jesus is going to be higer than you in throne and office....if you get time read that above post it explains the 2 Israels but if not that's ok too...I enjoyed writing it.

Well don't go away mad...sift through what I posted maybe you can find a grain of wisdom in it..lol.
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First wisdom comes not from you, for first you must obtain discernment before you can claim any form of wisdom, and my friend you have neither. Perhaps you have some knowledge but you studied the wrong courses in gaining it. It's the studying of the Word that induces wisdom my friend, not the studying of factual material that is now obsolete wrapped about in traditional antiquity.

Those words in those scriptural passages are not speaking of you or giving you any endorsements my friend..lol.

There is only one man named Israel. God called him Jacob/Israel and his name means prince. Not high priest..lol.

I am not mad at you waterman. But I am concerned that your path is leading you down a treacherous road. That when you finally discover its end it's full of dead prospectives.

It may appear I am mad at you and this is always one of your motives. But I am only irritated of your constant harassment behind the scenes when no one else is looking.

I told you beforehand you have a mean streak about you and you always have from your youth up. A revengeful purpose if you cannot retain something you feel you deserve. It's you who are always calling me out to to prove a point I am not even interested in anymore. Even earlier on this thread you called me to account of my opinion as you called me by the nickname you always address me (sword).

I would have allowed you to prater on without interruption of your self-promotional guessing list. But you wouldn't let it go. These people don't really realize waterman that it is really only me you are trying to convince. Nevertheless, you haven't and never will. I have taught you much of what you know over the yrs. and you will not deny this, but you took it in wrongly to promote your own objective and not the cause of the true objective, which is Jesus Christ and his promotion.

Now as I have said beforehand believe as you will and lead as many who chose to follow. But in the finality of it all we all must give an account of our actions and our deeds.
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I have some thoughts and opinions on Ezekiel's Temple. I will share them here.

I do not believe that Ezekiel's Temple, described so vividly in the last several chapters of the Book of Ezekiel, will ever be built.

The reason for this may be found in Ezekiel 43, beginning with this verse...

Ezekiel 43:9
"Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever."

 Quoting: Base12

The house in Eze:47 is the temple this verse references:
Zec:6:12-13:
And speak unto him,
saying,
Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts,
saying,
Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH;
and he shall grow up out of his place,
and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Even he shall build the temple of the LORD;
and he shall bear the glory,
and shall sit and rule upon his throne;
and he shall be a priest upon his throne:
and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
The water in Zec:14 is the same water in Eze:47, the water that flows in the former Dead Sea is the water that all the people alive on the face of the earth (Eden) will drink from, the same process that Jesus experienced in the same day He was resurrected. God took Him to New Jerusalem as that is where the living water and tree of life is, at the moment. If the tree of life and living water was not on earth, nobody would have an immortal that can interact with material things. The 24 Elders in the Re:4 Temple are the OT Saints that were resurrected the same morning Jesus was, they ascended to the Re:4 temple, they are still spiritual beings like Jesus was when He asked Mary M. to not touch Him. They would be about the first ones to drink the water and eat from the tree of life during the 1,000-year reign. By the coming evening, He was able to touch people during the baptism of 11 people in a small room.
Gentiles that survive the 7 vials enter from the east about a month later. They enter from the east so they visit the river before they enter the Holy Land and proceed to Jerusalem to meet Christ.

Eze:47:7-9:
Now when I had returned,
behold,
at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Then said he unto me,
These waters issue out toward the east country,
and go down into the desert,
and go into the sea:
which being brought forth into the sea,
the waters shall be healed.
And it shall come to pass,
that every thing that liveth,
which moveth,
whithersoever the rivers shall come,
shall live:
and there shall be a very great multitude of fish,
because these waters shall come thither:
for they shall be healed;
and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
Eze:47:12:
And by the river upon the bank thereof,
on this side and on that side,
shall grow all trees for meat,
whose leaf shall not fade,
neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed:
it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary:
and the fruit thereof shall be for meat,
and the leaf thereof for medicine.

Part of being resurrected and being immortal is that you are not given in marriage. The population on day1 of the 1,000 years will be the very same people that are gathered there when Satan is released, they are well aware they are there to be witnesses to what God does to immortals that sin. That is the final lesson for a new batch of immortals that are 'one day old'.
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I would also like to address the subject of 'Death in the Millennial Kingdom'. I do not agree with that either.

Let us look at a relevant verse...

Isaiah 65:20
"There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."


Upon first glance, it would appear that the verse is claiming that there will be 'hundred-year-old children dying'. In addition, there will be 'accursed sinners'.

The problem lies in the interpretation of the word 'for'. It should be understood as to mean 'otherwise'...

Isaiah 65:20
"There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for [otherwise] the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."


The verse is simply pointing out the absurdity of everyone staying the same age as they died and having to live like that for hundreds of years.
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Since this references the 'new earth' it takes place after New Jerusalem lands on the New Earth at the end of Re:22. The 'servants' in that chapter includes all people that Zec:14 references, the 12 Tribes are whole so the Eze:37 resurrections have taken place. They are the 2nd line in the Re:20:4 resurrection verse. The Gentile Church is also there, both are taken to New Jerusalem and once they enter it they never leave for the eternity the new earth lasts.
During the 1,000 years the 12 tribes never leave Israel either. At the end of Re:22 it is the ones resurrected at the Great White Throne event that exit the city and are scattered all across the universe as that is where they will build their 'forever homes'. Unlike the people in New Jerusalem the 'flock' is given in marriage. They are eternal beings like Adam and Eve until the age of 120 (Ge:6 determination) the mortal person 'dies' and the immortal person is born. First birth followed by the second birth.

In the new earth a person is born and is called 'an infant until the age of 20, at that time the infant does and the child (of God) is born, between the age of 20-120 they have 100 children, at the age of 120 God judges them and when found to be sinless they are given the living water and produce from the tree of life. To do that they have to visit New Jerusalem. Once they are immortal they no longer have more children but enter the 'grandparent stage of an eternal family. To get a scope of the New Earth each married couple might be given a whole galaxy to turn into a larger version of Eden at the end of Ge:1.
The flesh they have dominion over are never glorified so to live forever they have to keep eating forever, that also means they always keep having 'children' over all eternity.

Pretty complex topics.
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I’m 80% sure I have the dog in agreement with me already but it’s only cause I talk to him the most.

I gotta ask did you read the email I sent titled”this is a small sample of how I know who we are”. Or something similar to that and gave example after example of the two anointed….if not let me send it to you on here and you can give me a response as how I am wrong.


I gave your book a 3 because you plowed a bunch of scripture but then you gave all the blessings and inheritance to a single anointed and the other anointed was no where to be found because you can’t see the other anointed.

You do this because you have melchekzedek vision when reading scripture for the millennium. You see Jesus and the 1st born ruling over everybody jeeews and gentiles on earth with an empty heaven. If I suggest there are two kingdoms one in heaven and the other on earth suddenly I have become your enemy a usurper if you will…there was someone in the Bible that was a usurper but I can’t quite remember his name right now…lol

You think you need the 1st born birthright for some reason and that birthright will do nothing for you. Here is what the birthright does: 1. It gives a 2 nd born 1 st born son status so the 2 nd born can be considered an Israel also. That way you have a masculine israel and a feminine israel. If you are already a firstborn son Adam then you don’t need the birthright as you are already an Israel. It’s only the 2 nd born feminine that needs the change to qualify as 1st born to also become an Israel. Then being earth is davidic/levitic when you are the king you can’t be the high priest…so you couldn’t even use it for the priesthood . So having 2 firstborn status certificates does nothing for you. You could hang that 2nd one in a closest cause there would be no use for you being 1st born twice.

Esau summes up a 1st born mentality perfectly “ he took my birthright and now he has taken my blessing?”…. What was the 1st blessing Jacob handed out? It was the scepter blessing/kingship. What is David going to be on earth during the millennium? The king…that tells us David’s blessing is Judah/Israel blessing. The birthright will be useless to you as your inheritance is the Judah scepter. You can’t have 2 inheritances so that is why there are 2 Israel’s so one has the scepter dominion and the other uses the birthright for 1stborn status to run the priesthood.

If you run the perfect melchekzedek order as a full kingdom on earth you will ruin it as sin will still be in the earth during the mellinnium…this is why Jesus said “ my kingdom is not of this earth and also said my kingdom will never pass away….guess what this earth passes away after the millennium so Jesus’ kingdom won’t be on earth so it must not be a melchekzedek kingdom and all you have to do is read Jeremiah and Ezekiel and they tell you it is a davidic levitic kingdom where the king can’t be the high priest and the high priest offers a sin offering sacrifice for himself and the people.

Remember Jesus said the law will not pass away until the end of the world…it is just put on pause until the age of grace is over and Jesus is done dealing with the gentiles and begins dealing with the jeeews for the duration of the millennium.

Certainly the jeeews will have to believe in Jesus for salvation but will follow the law for holiness as satan will be bound for 1000 years and it will be possible to follow the law for holiness…not for salvation but for holiness


5 things happen when you make the earth a davidic/levitic kingdom on earth for the millennial age:

1. God keeps his covenant with Adam the 1st born and Eve the 2nd born to have dominion over everything genesis 1:28

2. You keep Jeremiah and Ezekiel from being false prophets

3. You make Jesus’ throne in heaven higher than David’s on earth. As Jesus would be King and High Priest melchekzedek order in heaven and David would just be king and it would take another anointed to fill the office of high priest on earth.

4. You persevere the melchekzedek order kingdom for the new heaven and new earth after the millennium

5. You give the jeeews a goal to achieve which is to become melchekzedek order kings and priests ….if you make jeeews kings and priests at the beginning of the millennium you gave them the prize before they ran the race.



By the way John didn't tesify who Jesus was until the 1st day of Jesus' ministry...and Peter and the guard didn’t recognize Jesus either until after Jesus started his ministry …just so ya know….lol

One more reason we know ezekiel 40's isn't symbolic and is truly a levtic priesthood:


You can tell it is a levitic preisthood if the priest offers up sacrifice for the sins of the people and his own sins and that is exactly what ezekiel 45 tells us is happening:



Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.







Reminder there are 2 Israels and Israel means to rule as a "prince" with God...the two postions are the kingship and the priesthood...so this prince in ezekeil 45 is the high priest prince. not the king prince.….two Israel’s = two prince one the king the other the high priest.




Here comes the proof the millenial kingdom priesthood is levitic.....the high priest is offering a sin offering for himself and the people:

Ezekiel 45:22-25 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the festival he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD, and a male goat for a sin offering.




Why is it a levitic priesthood because there is still sin and death going on during the millennium so if the priests are dying they aren't melchelzedek priests they are levtic priests which we know during the millennium there is death and sin and over a thousand years I'm sure some of the levitic priests are going to die showing the priesthood is not melchelzedek


Here it comes...the sign of a melchelzedek priesthood is there is no death of the priests:

Hebrews 7:

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;


Ezekiel 45 showing the levtic priests back in the temple....cmon man!...lol...how do you not see the earthly kingdom is levtic priesthood....is it you can't see it or you don't want to see it?



Ezekiel 45:

9 “The district that you shall set apart for the Lord shall be twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width. 10 To these—to the priests—the holy district shall belong: on the north twenty-five thousand cubits in length, on the west ten thousand in width, on the east ten thousand in width, and on the south twenty-five thousand in length. The sanctuary of the Lord shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. 12 And this district of land that is set apart shall be to them a thing most holy by the border of the Levites.

13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites
shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand. 14 And they shall not sell or exchange any of it; they may not alienate this best part of the land, for it is holy to the Lord.









Hebrews 7:

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.


So being there is a levitic priesthood being instituted on earth then you can't bring another priestood into the same kingdom as hebrews 8 states if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn't even be a high priest:


Hebrews 8:
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:


So you can't have 2 priesthoods on earth just as you can't have 2 kings ruling the same kingdom....that is why there are 2 kingdoms...the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom that Jesus rules and the lesser davidic/levitic kingdom on earth where the two offices are divided between the two anointed____that is why you need two anointed and that is why they will sit on Jesus’ left and right.

Don't bring expensive china to a picnic..which means don't institute the perfect eternal flawless sinless melchelzedek order priesthood to an earthly kingdom that has sin and death in it during the millennium....wait for the new heaven and new earth to bring out the good china...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I gave you one of many reasons why there will be a Melchizedek order starting in the last days in a YouTube video stating 20 min in of a 42 min session: "What God Revealed To Me About The Mystery of Melchizedek".

It really doesn't matter what you're told about the order of things, no one is trying to usurp your imaginary position/s. Not me or any other possessing a sound mind. Your order of proof is based on one premise only and that not of exhorting Jesus Christ and his purposed objective. But to promote your own position of recognition and who you think you are.

As I have told you many times beforehand, believe as you will it makes no difference in the final analysis. What will come to pass will come and life will continue on regardless of our opinions.

No I have no desire to read another email from you. I have read my fill. You have a tendency to embellish everything to fit your paradigm. In other words your hyperbolas direction to prove a point is often not even scriptural and toward the twisting of the Word of God in a more poignant position to satisfy your objective. What objective? To prove you are an anointed one and not just an anointed one but the greater of the anointed one's besides Jesus, even reaching the order of the one on the right hand of Christ.

Oh yes, by the way, the order of the position of a King, king, and high priest on his right and left hand is not so. But your picture depicts the position of a High Priest, a king and a prophet. At least get the order right if you're going to profess somewhat of a truth.

I am not ever going to endorse you as an anointed one, so forget it, look for another to convince. But it better be from the Lord's revelation not something made-up.

Perhaps Base 12 would dare tempt the hand of fate he seems convince you are someone to promote. I don't know if it's because you could then promote one another or perhaps he has a desire for a more forceful position..lol.

And I doubt your dog would endorse you either if he could speak. Otherwise, you are an expert at brain washing and your wife would throw you and that dog out together. Because you definitely haven't convince her of you lofty position as one of the witnesses..lol. And don't pretend a prophet is not without honor except among his own kin. It never applied to me in this fashion or peter; or many other prophets when it comes to witnesses bearing proof of their claims.

Repent of your self-arrogance and pride and self-exhortation and start new, seeking that first love if you had ever known it to begin with.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It's not up to you or anyone to endorse me as it has already been written...I'm already endorsed by God through his scriptures.

You are concerned too much if the one on Jesus' right is the greater one.....they are both Israels so they will be equally great in their own way...one natural and the other through the birthright.....to say the one on the right is greater is to say which is Jesus' greater atribute his Kingship or His Priesthood....they both have their own qualities.

I didn't make the picture of the king and high priest on each side of Jesus someone else did...but I thought you might be able to get the gist of the meaning of the picture.

I don't know why I would need to repent for posting truth and showing that Jesus is going to be higer than you in throne and office....if you get time read that above post it explains the 2 Israels but if not that's ok too...I enjoyed writing it.

Well don't go away mad...sift through what I posted maybe you can find a grain of wisdom in it..lol.
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First wisdom comes not from you, for first you must obtain discernment before you can claim any form of wisdom, and my friend you have neither. Perhaps you have some knowledge but you studied the wrong courses in gaining it. It's the studying of the Word that induces wisdom my friend, not the studying of factual material that is now obsolete wrapped about in traditional antiquity.

Those words in those scriptural passages are not speaking of you or giving you any endorsements my friend..lol.

There is only one man named Israel. God called him Jacob/Israel and his name means prince. Not high priest..lol.

I am not mad at you waterman. But I am concerned that your path is leading you down a treacherous road. That when you finally discover its end it's full of dead prospectives.

It may appear I am mad at you and this is always one of your motives. But I am only irritated of your constant harassment behind the scenes when no one else is looking.

I told you beforehand you have a mean streak about you and you always have from your youth up. A revengeful purpose if you cannot retain something you feel you deserve. It's you who are always calling me out to to prove a point I am not even interested in anymore. Even earlier on this thread you called me to account of my opinion as you called me by the nickname you always address me (sword).

I would have allowed you to prater on without interruption of your self-promotional guessing list. But you wouldn't let it go. These people don't really realize waterman that it is really only me you are trying to convince. Nevertheless, you haven't and never will. I have taught you much of what you know over the yrs. and you will not deny this, but you took it in wrongly to promote your own objective and not the cause of the true objective, which is Jesus Christ and his promotion.

Now as I have said beforehand believe as you will and lead as many who chose to follow. But in the finality of it all we all must give an account of our actions and our deeds.
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90 % of the time I’m posting from a phone so if I just write sword it is habit so I can get my eyes back on the road while driving or working quicker…..I know you wouldn’t want something to happen to me…and your personality is a little more sword than s-wordlike anyway...lol

Well I just don’t like trying to fill in others to what I mean when I would have to explain a few years of study in 5 minutes for them to understand where I come up with the conclusion. With you I just work off what you already plowed and I know how to divide it so there are 2 Israel’s a masculine and a feminine a 1st born and a 2nd born. Wisdom dwells in these 2 Israel’s .

It is my calling to try to join the two trees of Ezekiel 37….it is translated 2 sticks but the heebrew word should be translated 2 trees the tree of Judah and tree of Joseph. This is an impossible task if the Judah can’t see the Joseph and further complicates the task if the Judah believes he has to have the birthright which makes him assume he is Joseph.

So the throne room visit is right on track with you disputing the other anointed receiving the birthright and the priesthood………lol...if you would go up there a few posts and look I described why you don't need the birthright to still be an Israel and it isn't going to give you anymore dominion than the kingship you already have....the birthright only helps a 2nd born feminine and you are the opposite...you are firstborn masculine.

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I gave you one of many reasons why there will be a Melchizedek order starting in the last days in a YouTube video stating 20 min in of a 42 min session: "What God Revealed To Me About The Mystery of Melchizedek".

It really doesn't matter what you're told about the order of things, no one is trying to usurp your imaginary position/s. Not me or any other possessing a sound mind. Your order of proof is based on one premise only and that not of exhorting Jesus Christ and his purposed objective. But to promote your own position of recognition and who you think you are.

As I have told you many times beforehand, believe as you will it makes no difference in the final analysis. What will come to pass will come and life will continue on regardless of our opinions.

No I have no desire to read another email from you. I have read my fill. You have a tendency to embellish everything to fit your paradigm. In other words your hyperbolas direction to prove a point is often not even scriptural and toward the twisting of the Word of God in a more poignant position to satisfy your objective. What objective? To prove you are an anointed one and not just an anointed one but the greater of the anointed one's besides Jesus, even reaching the order of the one on the right hand of Christ.

Oh yes, by the way, the order of the position of a King, king, and high priest on his right and left hand is not so. But your picture depicts the position of a High Priest, a king and a prophet. At least get the order right if you're going to profess somewhat of a truth.

I am not ever going to endorse you as an anointed one, so forget it, look for another to convince. But it better be from the Lord's revelation not something made-up.

Perhaps Base 12 would dare tempt the hand of fate he seems convince you are someone to promote. I don't know if it's because you could then promote one another or perhaps he has a desire for a more forceful position..lol.

And I doubt your dog would endorse you either if he could speak. Otherwise, you are an expert at brain washing and your wife would throw you and that dog out together. Because you definitely haven't convince her of you lofty position as one of the witnesses..lol. And don't pretend a prophet is not without honor except among his own kin. It never applied to me in this fashion or peter; or many other prophets when it comes to witnesses bearing proof of their claims.

Repent of your self-arrogance and pride and self-exhortation and start new, seeking that first love if you had ever known it to begin with.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It's not up to you or anyone to endorse me as it has already been written...I'm already endorsed by God through his scriptures.

You are concerned too much if the one on Jesus' right is the greater one.....they are both Israels so they will be equally great in their own way...one natural and the other through the birthright.....to say the one on the right is greater is to say which is Jesus' greater atribute his Kingship or His Priesthood....they both have their own qualities.

I didn't make the picture of the king and high priest on each side of Jesus someone else did...but I thought you might be able to get the gist of the meaning of the picture.

I don't know why I would need to repent for posting truth and showing that Jesus is going to be higer than you in throne and office....if you get time read that above post it explains the 2 Israels but if not that's ok too...I enjoyed writing it.

Well don't go away mad...sift through what I posted maybe you can find a grain of wisdom in it..lol.
 Quoting: waterman


First wisdom comes not from you, for first you must obtain discernment before you can claim any form of wisdom, and my friend you have neither. Perhaps you have some knowledge but you studied the wrong courses in gaining it. It's the studying of the Word that induces wisdom my friend, not the studying of factual material that is now obsolete wrapped about in traditional antiquity.

Those words in those scriptural passages are not speaking of you or giving you any endorsements my friend..lol.

There is only one man named Israel. God called him Jacob/Israel and his name means prince. Not high priest..lol.

I am not mad at you waterman. But I am concerned that your path is leading you down a treacherous road. That when you finally discover its end it's full of dead prospectives.

It may appear I am mad at you and this is always one of your motives. But I am only irritated of your constant harassment behind the scenes when no one else is looking.

I told you beforehand you have a mean streak about you and you always have from your youth up. A revengeful purpose if you cannot retain something you feel you deserve. It's you who are always calling me out to to prove a point I am not even interested in anymore. Even earlier on this thread you called me to account of my opinion as you called me by the nickname you always address me (sword).

I would have allowed you to prater on without interruption of your self-promotional guessing list. But you wouldn't let it go. These people don't really realize waterman that it is really only me you are trying to convince. Nevertheless, you haven't and never will. I have taught you much of what you know over the yrs. and you will not deny this, but you took it in wrongly to promote your own objective and not the cause of the true objective, which is Jesus Christ and his promotion.

Now as I have said beforehand believe as you will and lead as many who chose to follow. But in the finality of it all we all must give an account of our actions and our deeds.
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90 % of the time I’m posting from a phone so if I just write sword it is habit so I can get my eyes back on the road while driving or working quicker…..I know you wouldn’t want something to happen to me…and your personality is a little more sword than s-wordlike anyway...lol

Well I just don’t like trying to fill in others to what I mean when I would have to explain a few years of study in 5 minutes for them to understand where I come up with the conclusion. With you I just work off what you already plowed and I know how to divide it so there are 2 Israel’s a masculine and a feminine a 1st born and a 2nd born. Wisdom dwells in these 2 Israel’s .

It is my calling to try to join the two trees of Ezekiel 37….it is translated 2 sticks but the heebrew word should be translated 2 trees the tree of Judah and tree of Joseph. This is an impossible task if the Judah can’t see the Joseph and further complicates the task if the Judah believes he has to have the birthright which makes him assume he is Joseph.

So the throne room visit is right on track with you disputing the other anointed receiving the birthright and the priesthood………lol...if you would go up there a few posts and look I described why you don't need the birthright to still be an Israel and it isn't going to give you anymore dominion than the kingship you already have....the birthright only helps a 2nd born feminine and you are the opposite...you are firstborn masculine.
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God always works in the physical first then the spiritual in the end....So as we have established Adam and Eve were born into the world to procreate and make the kingdom.....God will then send back the spirit of Adam and Eve into two people in the endtimes...not neccasarily a man and woman physically because there is no need to procreate as the kingdom is already made and full...this time he sends two men as one is the king and the other is the high priest but one with a spiritual masculine kingship dominion and the other with the spiritual feminie priesthood dominion....I'll continue on with my next post.
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It's not up to you or anyone to endorse me as it has already been written...I'm already endorsed by God through his scriptures.

You are concerned too much if the one on Jesus' right is the greater one.....they are both Israels so they will be equally great in their own way...one natural and the other through the birthright.....to say the one on the right is greater is to say which is Jesus' greater atribute his Kingship or His Priesthood....they both have their own qualities.

I didn't make the picture of the king and high priest on each side of Jesus someone else did...but I thought you might be able to get the gist of the meaning of the picture.

I don't know why I would need to repent for posting truth and showing that Jesus is going to be higer than you in throne and office....if you get time read that above post it explains the 2 Israels but if not that's ok too...I enjoyed writing it.

Well don't go away mad...sift through what I posted maybe you can find a grain of wisdom in it..lol.
 Quoting: waterman


First wisdom comes not from you, for first you must obtain discernment before you can claim any form of wisdom, and my friend you have neither. Perhaps you have some knowledge but you studied the wrong courses in gaining it. It's the studying of the Word that induces wisdom my friend, not the studying of factual material that is now obsolete wrapped about in traditional antiquity.

Those words in those scriptural passages are not speaking of you or giving you any endorsements my friend..lol.

There is only one man named Israel. God called him Jacob/Israel and his name means prince. Not high priest..lol.

I am not mad at you waterman. But I am concerned that your path is leading you down a treacherous road. That when you finally discover its end it's full of dead prospectives.

It may appear I am mad at you and this is always one of your motives. But I am only irritated of your constant harassment behind the scenes when no one else is looking.

I told you beforehand you have a mean streak about you and you always have from your youth up. A revengeful purpose if you cannot retain something you feel you deserve. It's you who are always calling me out to to prove a point I am not even interested in anymore. Even earlier on this thread you called me to account of my opinion as you called me by the nickname you always address me (sword).

I would have allowed you to prater on without interruption of your self-promotional guessing list. But you wouldn't let it go. These people don't really realize waterman that it is really only me you are trying to convince. Nevertheless, you haven't and never will. I have taught you much of what you know over the yrs. and you will not deny this, but you took it in wrongly to promote your own objective and not the cause of the true objective, which is Jesus Christ and his promotion.

Now as I have said beforehand believe as you will and lead as many who chose to follow. But in the finality of it all we all must give an account of our actions and our deeds.
 Quoting: S-wordlike



90 % of the time I’m posting from a phone so if I just write sword it is habit so I can get my eyes back on the road while driving or working quicker…..I know you wouldn’t want something to happen to me…and your personality is a little more sword than s-wordlike anyway...lol

Well I just don’t like trying to fill in others to what I mean when I would have to explain a few years of study in 5 minutes for them to understand where I come up with the conclusion. With you I just work off what you already plowed and I know how to divide it so there are 2 Israel’s a masculine and a feminine a 1st born and a 2nd born. Wisdom dwells in these 2 Israel’s .

It is my calling to try to join the two trees of Ezekiel 37….it is translated 2 sticks but the heebrew word should be translated 2 trees the tree of Judah and tree of Joseph. This is an impossible task if the Judah can’t see the Joseph and further complicates the task if the Judah believes he has to have the birthright which makes him assume he is Joseph.

So the throne room visit is right on track with you disputing the other anointed receiving the birthright and the priesthood………lol...if you would go up there a few posts and look I described why you don't need the birthright to still be an Israel and it isn't going to give you anymore dominion than the kingship you already have....the birthright only helps a 2nd born feminine and you are the opposite...you are firstborn masculine.
 Quoting: waterman

Believe as you will I have other matters to attend to.
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The model of the kingdom of Judah/israel and Jacob/Israel represent Adam being judah and Eve needing the Jacob birthright.

Here is the picture evidence:


Adam starts as a single israel:

adaminthegaren1



Then Adam is divided into 2 Israel’s he is judah masculine israel and Eve the feminine 2nd born is Jacob israel that needs the birthright to be an israel

adameveside1



Once they divided the enemy comes and they go into the wilderness just as Israel split into 2 kingdoms and were taken into captivity

animalskins
dividedkingdom


In the end the two kingdoms of Israel judah and Jacob are reunited. And the masculine Judah and feminine Jacob two anointed will be reunited


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Once we know Israel means "prince of God" and we see there is a masculine Israel and a feminine Israel..elijah being the priestly Israel we know he comes "before" the terrible day of the Lord which is the judgement of Jesus on the northern kingdom of Jacob(the united states of America)..Remember the Jacob/Israel is the feminine israel so the priestly dominion representative of that kingdom which is Elijah will arrive to tell that kindom that judgement is coming as it is called "JACOBS TROUBLE" not JUDAHS TROUBLE

So let's look at a possible timeline of this first "prince" showing up

Daniel 9:25:

25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the anointed one, the prince, shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times


So we know the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem happened during the 1967 six day war on June 5-10th 1967 when Israel captured Jerusalem so that is our starting point.

The scriptures say after 7 weeks this anointed prince will show up. 7 weeks meaning 7 sets of 7 years....most people would say this is 49 years but it is actually longer as it is the full set of 7 sets of 7 years

Lets look at it like this...what if the prophecy said after 8 weeks the prince will show up? Then we would know it meant 7 x 8 = 56th year he would show up...so this tells us the 7 sets of 7years lasts until the beginning of the 8th set of 7 years. So if it was 7 sets of 8 years after 1967 then the prince whould show up after June 5-10 2023...so anything before June 5-10 2023 is still in the block of 7 sets of 7 years. So this anointed prince who represents the northern kingdom of Jacob has to show up before June 5-10 2023 to make the time line of the 7 sets of 7 years

June 5-10 2023 is the end of the timeline for the anointed prince to show up if the 7 sets of 7 years is to be fulfilled in this manner.

Now we know Elijah is supposed to arrive on passover so passover in 2023 is April 5-13th 2023 which would be the last passover before the beginning of the 8th set of 7 years after israels 6 day war of 1967.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
The Father doesn't need to worry about the 1st born

The 1st born usually tries to do what the Father wants
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God tells the end from the beginning...He is going to use the 1st born and the 2nd born for dominion as was orginally planned....God didn't change his mind...He just takes his time in fulfilling his Plan.

How do you not see this playing out right now?
Do you realize you can't see the other anointed but you claim to be joseph...joseph is going to be able to see his brother way before they see him....you are looking for elijah so where is he?

You only claim to be joseph because Joseph has the birthright just like jacob and ephraim so you have to think of a scenerio where you are 2nd born instead of 1st born.

The birthright is what is confusing you....you don't need the birthright blessing as you are already Adam the firstborn masculine son....this is why when Israel split you didn't see Judah trying to claim the birthright because Judah already received the 1st born masculine son blessing of being an Israel and the scepter.

The one that needs the birthright blessing is the one who is 2nd born...you aren't an Israel(firstborn son) if you are a 2nd born...but that all changed starting with Jacob who was the 1st 2nd born who recieived the birthright...then it went to Joseph..then Ephraim...so we see down the line the 2nd born will receive the Joseph birthright blessing for equal status with David who will be from the Judah/Israel line


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You are playing the angry older borther of Luke 15 that says why does the younger brother get the fatted calf....and the Father says "SON all I Have is Already yours" becuase judah is the firstborn and an Israel. Ephraim is the 2nd born who has to get a name by (wrestling/contending with man and God)…a brand plucked from the fire if you will….I’m sure you will hear that phrase at least one more time in your hearing…..lol

After all it is called Jacobs trouble for a reason.



That 2nd born isn't taking anything from you.. yet you think he is....you don't need the birthright to be a 1st born son so that isn't why...and the kingdom you are going to be king of doesn't allow the king to be the high priest...so you lose nothing there...possibly the birthright holder gets some extra land for a 1000 years while earth is still here..then when the millennium ends it's "WELL DONE MY GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANTS" and off to Jesus' new heaven and new earth.....So you mad about a little bit of land you think the birthright might provide?....I'm pretty sure if you asked for some I'd give it to ya...lol






Don't be the guy who thinks he has to compete to be an Israel...you already are but there are 2 Israels: remember judah was the southern Israel and Ephraim had to receive the name change to become an Israel..the model of the kingdom of Israel after the division is a model of the two anointed after the division.

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The heel jacob has to catch is the 1st borns heel



To catch the 1st borns heel means to find a way of also becoming a 1 st born status and the birthright was the secret…..the birthright is reserved for 2nd borns to have 1st born status so they also can become an Israel(prince of God)


This would be an impossible task ….unless you knew who the 1st born was….then the impossible task becomes the possible task


Jacob is a classic and popular boy name. It comes from the Old Testament and means “supplanter,” which is often interpreted as someone who seizes, circumvents( find a way around an obstacle), or usurps.

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when you have a 1st born judah/Israel and a 2nd born Jacob/isreal...only the judah/Israel is blinded until the fulness of the gentiles to seeing their brother(notice I can see you but you can't see me???).....so when the 2nd born jacob/israel finds the 1st born judah/Israel he will listen to what he has learned in the scriptures. After sometime passes the 2nd born who isn't blinded to seeing the 1st born will realize that the firstborn can't see the 2nd born/other anointed. Year after year passes and the 1st born can't find the other anointed until 25 years pass and still the 1st born can't find the other anointed but I've been able to see the 1st born for 25 years.

This is when the heel catch comes into effect and the 2nd born jacob/israel will begin to see the divsion of the blessings that the 1st born is missing because he can't see the 2nd born until the fulness of the gentiles

When you read the scriptures without being able to see purpose of a 2nd israel then you use melchelzedek order vision to read scriptures and when you do this then you only need one anointed instead of two...the thing is only one anointed gets all the inheritance and blessings. It would be silly to send 2 anointed if you are going to give all the inheritance and blessings to one anointed.

The millennial kingdom on earth is davidic/levitic which if you use this type of vision(davidic/levitic) instead of the melchelzedek vision then you need two anointed and everything divides perfectly for these two to run 2 different offices one the kingship and the other the priesthood on earth during the millennium which makes much more sense.


The birthright blessing has already been written that the 2nd born Jacob receives it he just has to be able to realize that the 1st born and 2nd born are in the volume of the book he just needs to see how to divide it(break the clods if you will) and see which blessings are his and which are the 1st borns......this is how a 2nd born catches the heel of a 1st born and there become 2 Israels...one the natural spiritual masculine Israel and the other a spiritual feminine birthright Israel.

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Still doing melchelzedek vision instead of davidic/levitic for the jeeews for the millennium? So you can do single anointed instead of the dual anointed the lord is using? When you have a judah/israel and a Jacob/israel you might as well utilize them both so Jesus can be higher than the two anointed in throne…..when you equalize yourself with Jesus in throne your thought process is contaminated with pride….which is a fault of a Judah.




Even Joseph couldn’t be “equal” with pharaoh which represented Jesus…that is why the two offices of the kingship and priesthood are divided on earth…..if one of the two anointed was king and high priest they would be equal with Jesus and Jesus wouldn’t be greater than one of the two anointed that is why the earth will once again be davidic/levitic so the two anointed can have dominion on earth as was promised in genesis 1:28 and Jesus will have dominion in heaven as King and High Priest which is higher in throne than the two anointed.

Gen 41:
40 Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.



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45:00 - 50:00 minutest in the video….so 5 minutes if you can spare the time

The rabbbi explains David’s sacrifices were peace offerings not sin offerings and anybody could perform those sacrifices. It didn’t make David a priest. Sacrifices were a form of prayer. But that’s just a rabbi who is proficient in knowing what the sacrifices are for ….what’s he know?…..lol


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