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Reincarnation is a Scam & How to Never Reincarnate Ever Again

 
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I rather like what you're saying here, but why the need for a condescending tone?

If you really want to help and teach people, try a better approach.
 Quoting: Satyarevelations


The sanctimonious condescension of the poster certainly belies an Egoic “I”, does it not?

chuckle

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Sure. But it is clear that only those believe that there is an ego without ego, who also don't get the difference between seeing and what is seen, nevertheless think they are the greatest.

Seriously. One cannot be so stupid like you at all, to embarrass oneself exactly with what has just been explained?

As I said at the beginning: with people like you, every line is just a waste of time...
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Ya got a little triggered there. chuckle

Inasmuch as I am incapable of understanding your Wisdom and Grandeur (and I certainly wouldn’t want to continue embarrassing myself by further revealing my stupidity), please feel free to tell the others here about your handle, “eternal love and bliss”, and then enlighten the others on the Ego without Ego (but which in fact still harbors Ego).

Go ahead. I’ll step out of the room so as not to distract you from your discourse.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
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cruise

Wishful thinking.
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I'm watching an interesting movie. It's on Netflix with Robert Redford, called "Discovery."

They just put forward an interesting concept. What if, (they said the afterlife) but for sake of this thread, what if reincarnation is simply the soul existing in and experiencing another timeline? After physical death, the soul picks up on another timeline already in existence.... and experiences that one?
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why not just stop having sex?

i guess we're already on our way.
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why not just stop having sex?

i guess we're already on our way.
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just castrate all males?
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I'm watching an interesting movie. It's on Netflix with Robert Redford, called "Discovery."

They just put forward an interesting concept. What if, (they said the afterlife) but for sake of this thread, what if reincarnation is simply the soul existing in and experiencing another timeline? After physical death, the soul picks up on another timeline already in existence.... and experiences that one?
 Quoting: Satyarevelations


Sounds good, I’m watching, curious to to find out what age are you as you continue in the new timeline, the same age as you died? If so you could die of old age over and over as you keep moving to another timeline, since the alternate timelines I assume are all continuing and continuous, not being set back to start over just for the deceased person. Or masters of time could set you back in time to date of birth but then you’d be stuck over and over in the same period of history.

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I'm watching an interesting movie. It's on Netflix with Robert Redford, called "Discovery."

They just put forward an interesting concept. What if, (they said the afterlife) but for sake of this thread, what if reincarnation is simply the soul existing in and experiencing another timeline? After physical death, the soul picks up on another timeline already in existence.... and experiences that one?
 Quoting: Satyarevelations


Sounds good, I’m watching, curious to to find out what age are you as you continue in the new timeline, the same age as you died? If so you could die of old age over and over as you keep moving to another timeline, since the alternate timelines I assume are all continuing and continuous, not being set back to start over just for the deceased person. Or masters of time could set you back in time to date of birth but then you’d be stuck over and over in the same period of history.
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the movie doesn't address that..... just put forth the theory which I found to be a bit intriguing.

But think about it, if that's the case, there would be no memory of an experience in another timeline.
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Except for a few distracting personalities posting here

This is a good thread.
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These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that



…it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Setting aside your Egoless Ego’s need to denigrate (to satisfy itself), I have indeed considered the remainder of your post over the past many years. What you have posted is not new, and I found it does not stand up to scrutiny and practical application in life.

All the various schools of thought ultimately FAIL due to contradictions, unanswered questions, incompatibility with the reality of this world, etc.

Whereas, I have found over the many years, that realizing and accepting the “reality” that we are trapped in a loosh energy Soul prison farm stands up against most Tests, answers far more questions than it leaves unanswered, resolves so many mysteries, easily explains most other schools of thought, and connects the vast number of puzzle pieces we all find ourselves accumulating as we progress through life, picking up puzzle piece after puzzle piece after puzzle piece.

Your thoughts on the matter are as valid as any another, but I graduated past your ideas years ago.

Those concepts are certainly worthy of serious consideration, and I DID give them the studied consideration they deserve, but in the end, they (mostly) fail. Of course, there is an element of Truth within them that survives, but that is true of ALL schools of thought since ALL schools of thought contain little pieces and traces of truth, but Truth is scattered among the stars.

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that



…it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Setting aside your Egoless Ego’s need to denigrate (to satisfy itself), I have indeed considered the remainder of your post over the past many years. What you have posted is not new, and I found it does not stand up to scrutiny and practical application in life.

All the various schools of thought ultimately FAIL due to contradictions, unanswered questions, incompatibility with the reality of this world, etc.

Whereas, I have found over the many years, that realizing and accepting the “reality” that we are trapped in a loosh energy Soul prison farm stands up against most Tests, answers far more questions than it leaves unanswered, resolves so many mysteries, easily explains most other schools of thought, and connects the vast number of puzzle pieces we all find ourselves accumulating as we progress through life, picking up puzzle piece after puzzle piece after puzzle piece.

Your thoughts on the matter are as valid as any another, but I graduated past your ideas years ago.

Those concepts are certainly worthy of serious consideration, and I DID give them the studied consideration they deserve, but in the end, they (mostly) fail. Of course, there is an element of Truth within them that survives, but that is true of ALL schools of thought since ALL schools of thought contain little pieces and traces of truth, but Truth is scattered among the stars.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


You repeat here only the hollow babble and the insubstantial foam beating, with which you have already disgraced yourself to the bones in the last contribution.

The only thing that you prove with it, however, is only that your low energy in the brain probably leads to strongly reduced intelligence.

And with such an enormously reduced intelligence the reading competence is already missing, as children already have it in the elementary school.

If it would be different, you would not have lectured again about the ego, after I had just made clear quite undoubtedly that there is no ego without ego and that this discussion has also absolutely no relevance for the topic.

Why do you try to divert from the topic and do not comment on the arguments with a single word?

It is more than obvious that you have no real knowledge and above all also no contact with reality.

By the way, the problematic thing about the ego is not when you write provocatively or insultingly, but that you sit in the cinema seat and think you are the character Zovalex on the screen.

That was the issue.

So it is you who is in the Zovalex prison. A prison that consists in not being able to leave the maze without exit, the thinking. So while I point to what actually happens in the reality, in the actual experience and perception, you absolutely want to stay in the realm of the fantasy of the I-character Zovalex. So you are the only one here who clings to insubstantial concepts.

What you are right about is that the essence is found in all great religions and wisdom teachings. However, there are no contradictions with regard to what we are talking about here.

It is quite enough to be still and realize two things. First, that space, time, objects (including your 'I') and the world are products of the mind and also exist only there and second, that these contents appear exclusively in the form of thoughts and are seen by something, which cannot be Zovalex, because the namely is seen.

So it is no problem at all to investigate and to find out that Zovalex does not exist. That Zovalex is only a mirage. There is no real entity, no real subject. There is no one who makes willful decisions and acts. But you still want to be Zovalex at all costs. THAT is ego. That is immersion in the prison of the mind that you cannot leave.

You have never investigated yourself, let alone graduated in anything. You don't understand even the most elementary basics of your existence.

If you had ever looked at what actually happens in perception, then it would be clear that what I said at the beginning is true. That Zovalex has no consciousness and no soul, but that Zovalex appears in consciousness and is no more than a thought.

Very easy to understand. Just not for a ultra low vibration like you.

The prison is therefore that with you endlessly one thought follows the next one and you do not only consider yourself to be the thought Zovalex, but even believe that the content of this thought would be a real entity. An actual thinker. Zero awareness, zero contact with reality.

All your delusions and deceptions are in principle very easy to see through and to unmask. Just not for you.

A luciferic ego like you never wakes up. You love the prison Zovalex too much and hate the truth. You love to play the seeker, but you don't want to find the ultimate.

That's what I'm saying already...
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These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that



…it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Setting aside your Egoless Ego’s need to denigrate (to satisfy itself), I have indeed considered the remainder of your post over the past many years. What you have posted is not new, and I found it does not stand up to scrutiny and practical application in life.

All the various schools of thought ultimately FAIL due to contradictions, unanswered questions, incompatibility with the reality of this world, etc.

Whereas, I have found over the many years, that realizing and accepting the “reality” that we are trapped in a loosh energy Soul prison farm stands up against most Tests, answers far more questions than it leaves unanswered, resolves so many mysteries, easily explains most other schools of thought, and connects the vast number of puzzle pieces we all find ourselves accumulating as we progress through life, picking up puzzle piece after puzzle piece after puzzle piece.

Your thoughts on the matter are as valid as any another, but I graduated past your ideas years ago.

Those concepts are certainly worthy of serious consideration, and I DID give them the studied consideration they deserve, but in the end, they (mostly) fail. Of course, there is an element of Truth within them that survives, but that is true of ALL schools of thought since ALL schools of thought contain little pieces and traces of truth, but Truth is scattered among the stars.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


You repeat here only the hollow babble and the insubstantial foam beating, with which you have already disgraced yourself to the bones in the last contribution.

The only thing that you prove with it, however, is only that your low energy in the brain probably leads to strongly reduced intelligence.

And with such an enormously reduced intelligence the reading competence is already missing, as children already have it in the elementary school.

If it would be different, you would not have lectured again about the ego, after I had just made clear quite undoubtedly that there is no ego without ego and that this discussion has also absolutely no relevance for the topic.

Why do you try to divert from the topic and do not comment on the arguments with a single word?

It is more than obvious that you have no real knowledge and above all also no contact with reality.

By the way, the problematic thing about the ego is not when you write provocatively or insultingly, but that you sit in the cinema seat and think you are the character Zovalex on the screen.

That was the issue.

So it is you who is in the Zovalex prison. A prison that consists in not being able to leave the maze without exit, the thinking. So while I point to what actually happens in the reality, in the actual experience and perception, you absolutely want to stay in the realm of the fantasy of the I-character Zovalex. So you are the only one here who clings to insubstantial concepts.

What you are right about is that the essence is found in all great religions and wisdom teachings. However, there are no contradictions with regard to what we are talking about here.

It is quite enough to be still and realize two things. First, that space, time, objects (including your 'I') and the world are products of the mind and also exist only there and second, that these contents appear exclusively in the form of thoughts and are seen by something, which cannot be Zovalex, because the namely is seen.

So it is no problem at all to investigate and to find out that Zovalex does not exist. That Zovalex is only a mirage. There is no real entity, no real subject. There is no one who makes willful decisions and acts. But you still want to be Zovalex at all costs. THAT is ego. That is immersion in the prison of the mind that you cannot leave.

You have never investigated yourself, let alone graduated in anything. You don't understand even the most elementary basics of your existence.

If you had ever looked at what actually happens in perception, then it would be clear that what I said at the beginning is true. That Zovalex has no consciousness and no soul, but that Zovalex appears in consciousness and is no more than a thought.

Very easy to understand. Just not for a ultra low vibration like you.

The prison is therefore that with you endlessly one thought follows the next one and you do not only consider yourself to be the thought Zovalex, but even believe that the content of this thought would be a real entity. An actual thinker. Zero awareness, zero contact with reality.

All your delusions and deceptions are in principle very easy to see through and to unmask. Just not for you.

A luciferic ego like you never wakes up. You love the prison Zovalex too much and hate the truth. You love to play the seeker, but you don't want to find the ultimate.

That's what I'm saying already...
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


You sure have a misguided name/handle to represent your posts.
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These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that



…it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Setting aside your Egoless Ego’s need to denigrate (to satisfy itself), I have indeed considered the remainder of your post over the past many years. What you have posted is not new, and I found it does not stand up to scrutiny and practical application in life.

All the various schools of thought ultimately FAIL due to contradictions, unanswered questions, incompatibility with the reality of this world, etc.

Whereas, I have found over the many years, that realizing and accepting the “reality” that we are trapped in a loosh energy Soul prison farm stands up against most Tests, answers far more questions than it leaves unanswered, resolves so many mysteries, easily explains most other schools of thought, and connects the vast number of puzzle pieces we all find ourselves accumulating as we progress through life, picking up puzzle piece after puzzle piece after puzzle piece.

Your thoughts on the matter are as valid as any another, but I graduated past your ideas years ago.

Those concepts are certainly worthy of serious consideration, and I DID give them the studied consideration they deserve, but in the end, they (mostly) fail. Of course, there is an element of Truth within them that survives, but that is true of ALL schools of thought since ALL schools of thought contain little pieces and traces of truth, but Truth is scattered among the stars.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


You repeat here only the hollow babble and the insubstantial foam beating, with which you have already disgraced yourself to the bones in the last contribution.

The only thing that you prove with it, however, is only that your low energy in the brain probably leads to strongly reduced intelligence.

And with such an enormously reduced intelligence the reading competence is already missing, as children already have it in the elementary school.

If it would be different, you would not have lectured again about the ego, after I had just made clear quite undoubtedly that there is no ego without ego and that this discussion has also absolutely no relevance for the topic.

Why do you try to divert from the topic and do not comment on the arguments with a single word?

It is more than obvious that you have no real knowledge and above all also no contact with reality.

By the way, the problematic thing about the ego is not when you write provocatively or insultingly, but that you sit in the cinema seat and think you are the character Zovalex on the screen.

That was the issue.

So it is you who is in the Zovalex prison. A prison that consists in not being able to leave the maze without exit, the thinking. So while I point to what actually happens in the reality, in the actual experience and perception, you absolutely want to stay in the realm of the fantasy of the I-character Zovalex. So you are the only one here who clings to insubstantial concepts.

What you are right about is that the essence is found in all great religions and wisdom teachings. However, there are no contradictions with regard to what we are talking about here.

It is quite enough to be still and realize two things. First, that space, time, objects (including your 'I') and the world are products of the mind and also exist only there and second, that these contents appear exclusively in the form of thoughts and are seen by something, which cannot be Zovalex, because the namely is seen.

So it is no problem at all to investigate and to find out that Zovalex does not exist. That Zovalex is only a mirage. There is no real entity, no real subject. There is no one who makes willful decisions and acts. But you still want to be Zovalex at all costs. THAT is ego. That is immersion in the prison of the mind that you cannot leave.

You have never investigated yourself, let alone graduated in anything. You don't understand even the most elementary basics of your existence.

If you had ever looked at what actually happens in perception, then it would be clear that what I said at the beginning is true. That Zovalex has no consciousness and no soul, but that Zovalex appears in consciousness and is no more than a thought.

Very easy to understand. Just not for a ultra low vibration like you.

The prison is therefore that with you endlessly one thought follows the next one and you do not only consider yourself to be the thought Zovalex, but even believe that the content of this thought would be a real entity. An actual thinker. Zero awareness, zero contact with reality.

All your delusions and deceptions are in principle very easy to see through and to unmask. Just not for you.

A luciferic ego like you never wakes up. You love the prison Zovalex too much and hate the truth. You love to play the seeker, but you don't want to find the ultimate.

That's what I'm saying already...
 Quoting: ELB 73348028



Who pissed in your face when you were born? Jeebus.

Do you really think your APPROACH is going to create a sea change in him? Really?....billlaugh

Tell us, why are you going after him like he's got the bone, and your a dog?
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
 Quoting: The Real Mi



Indeed, and thank you.

Loosely speaking, I am of the mind that we are what we think, so I take issue with the negative nature of some of his messages/posts....but I also know that's a "level" we move through as we grow. I had to move through it, and I still have to deal with it almost daily. It's a struggle most of the time, attempting to stay 100% positive in this environment we're in.

And this is why this AC poster is not as benevolent as they might like to think. We're all struggling here. We need compassion, not poking at someone to incite them.

I hope he lets it go also, in more ways than one, because I love him....all of him, the good, the bad, and the ugly. He is a part of my soul, and my soul group.
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These are only insinuations and assumptions.

From one who does not understand the most elementary things even with an overly clear second explanation.

Why do you ask questions that have not the slightest significance for the topic? Because you are intellectually overtaxed to understand that



…it is you, Zovalex, who is the prison.

It has no relevance for the topic whether a bundle of thoughts, which you consider to be a real subject, has 'ego'. In your opinion.

You have completely lost yourself in insane fantasies and thought constructs.

Reality is absolute. It is exclusively the I that creates the limitation by appearing as a virtual subject. And that, which itself is the limiting, never becomes unlimited and free.

The form does not become the substance. The seen object 'I' does not become the absolute awareness that sees.

Actually even you could understand that?
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Setting aside your Egoless Ego’s need to denigrate (to satisfy itself), I have indeed considered the remainder of your post over the past many years. What you have posted is not new, and I found it does not stand up to scrutiny and practical application in life.

All the various schools of thought ultimately FAIL due to contradictions, unanswered questions, incompatibility with the reality of this world, etc.

Whereas, I have found over the many years, that realizing and accepting the “reality” that we are trapped in a loosh energy Soul prison farm stands up against most Tests, answers far more questions than it leaves unanswered, resolves so many mysteries, easily explains most other schools of thought, and connects the vast number of puzzle pieces we all find ourselves accumulating as we progress through life, picking up puzzle piece after puzzle piece after puzzle piece.

Your thoughts on the matter are as valid as any another, but I graduated past your ideas years ago.

Those concepts are certainly worthy of serious consideration, and I DID give them the studied consideration they deserve, but in the end, they (mostly) fail. Of course, there is an element of Truth within them that survives, but that is true of ALL schools of thought since ALL schools of thought contain little pieces and traces of truth, but Truth is scattered among the stars.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


You repeat here only the hollow babble and the insubstantial foam beating, with which you have already disgraced yourself to the bones in the last contribution.

The only thing that you prove with it, however, is only that your low energy in the brain probably leads to strongly reduced intelligence.

And with such an enormously reduced intelligence the reading competence is already missing, as children already have it in the elementary school.

If it would be different, you would not have lectured again about the ego, after I had just made clear quite undoubtedly that there is no ego without ego and that this discussion has also absolutely no relevance for the topic.

Why do you try to divert from the topic and do not comment on the arguments with a single word?

It is more than obvious that you have no real knowledge and above all also no contact with reality.

By the way, the problematic thing about the ego is not when you write provocatively or insultingly, but that you sit in the cinema seat and think you are the character Zovalex on the screen.

That was the issue.

So it is you who is in the Zovalex prison. A prison that consists in not being able to leave the maze without exit, the thinking. So while I point to what actually happens in the reality, in the actual experience and perception, you absolutely want to stay in the realm of the fantasy of the I-character Zovalex. So you are the only one here who clings to insubstantial concepts.

What you are right about is that the essence is found in all great religions and wisdom teachings. However, there are no contradictions with regard to what we are talking about here.

It is quite enough to be still and realize two things. First, that space, time, objects (including your 'I') and the world are products of the mind and also exist only there and second, that these contents appear exclusively in the form of thoughts and are seen by something, which cannot be Zovalex, because the namely is seen.

So it is no problem at all to investigate and to find out that Zovalex does not exist. That Zovalex is only a mirage. There is no real entity, no real subject. There is no one who makes willful decisions and acts. But you still want to be Zovalex at all costs. THAT is ego. That is immersion in the prison of the mind that you cannot leave.

You have never investigated yourself, let alone graduated in anything. You don't understand even the most elementary basics of your existence.

If you had ever looked at what actually happens in perception, then it would be clear that what I said at the beginning is true. That Zovalex has no consciousness and no soul, but that Zovalex appears in consciousness and is no more than a thought.

Very easy to understand. Just not for a ultra low vibration like you.

The prison is therefore that with you endlessly one thought follows the next one and you do not only consider yourself to be the thought Zovalex, but even believe that the content of this thought would be a real entity. An actual thinker. Zero awareness, zero contact with reality.

All your delusions and deceptions are in principle very easy to see through and to unmask. Just not for you.

A luciferic ego like you never wakes up. You love the prison Zovalex too much and hate the truth. You love to play the seeker, but you don't want to find the ultimate.

That's what I'm saying already...
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Who pissed in your face when you were born? Jeebus.

Do you really think your APPROACH is going to create a sea change in him? Really?....billlaugh

Tell us, why are you going after him like he's got the bone, and your a dog?
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For real. On one hand he says he won't waste his time with us yet continues to write one angry diatribe after another.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
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Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


In any case, I can see that a few morons are getting worked up over formalities and appearances. And there is a very simple reason for this.

You have nothing to say about the content and the topic.

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.

Such a view is based, like the rest of the garbage, which you fabricate in your atrophied brains, exactly on the error, which I have explained now already several times.

To believe that there is a way from the I to the self. From the limited to the absolute.

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

We have current times, in which now still the last latecomers wake up. That's why I rarely once again extend a helping hand. You pathetically hypocritical ego lovers will most certainly not be among them.

Those who do not take to heart the clear hint that the I has no consciousness, but appears in consciousness, because their ego does not feel petted enough with light, love and compassion, just goes to hell.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


In any case, I can see that a few morons are getting worked up over formalities and appearances. And there is a very simple reason for this.

You have nothing to say about the content and the topic.

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.

Such a view is based, like the rest of the garbage, which you fabricate in your atrophied brains, exactly on the error, which I have explained now already several times.

To believe that there is a way from the I to the self. From the limited to the absolute.

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

We have current times, in which now still the last latecomers wake up. That's why I rarely once again extend a helping hand. You pathetically hypocritical ego lovers will most certainly not be among them.

Those who do not take to heart the clear hint that the I has no consciousness, but appears in consciousness, because their ego does not feel petted enough with light, love and compassion, just goes to hell.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028

you sound exactly like a fundamental christian.

You haven't contributed to the topic whatsoever except by demonstrating a condescending superiority attitude, to everyone.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


In any case, I can see that a few morons are getting worked up over formalities and appearances. And there is a very simple reason for this.

You have nothing to say about the content and the topic.

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.

Such a view is based, like the rest of the garbage, which you fabricate in your atrophied brains, exactly on the error, which I have explained now already several times.

To believe that there is a way from the I to the self. From the limited to the absolute.

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

We have current times, in which now still the last latecomers wake up. That's why I rarely once again extend a helping hand. You pathetically hypocritical ego lovers will most certainly not be among them.

Those who do not take to heart the clear hint that the I has no consciousness, but appears in consciousness, because their ego does not feel petted enough with light, love and compassion, just goes to hell.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Ah yes, a spiritually advanced person calling the rest of us morons and imbeciles. Sounds like projection especially since nearly everything you write comes off as pretentious hypocritical drivel. The little bit of substance there is, is overshadowed by insults and ego ( which is ironic because that's what you accuse us of being full of.)

Since I know that your only goal here is to bait me into an argument, this is the most you'll get from me.

Have an amazing day :)
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.

Even though they may have some valid points and provide some very interesting information it is the tone, the manner in which they are portraying that information that gives their true essence away.

ELB Why don't you knock off trying to be a self-righteous know it all and quit talking down to other people. If you have good knowledge to share than share it. There's no need to start a spar session on here. We are all here for the same reason.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


In any case, I can see that a few morons are getting worked up over formalities and appearances. And there is a very simple reason for this.

You have nothing to say about the content and the topic.

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.

Such a view is based, like the rest of the garbage, which you fabricate in your atrophied brains, exactly on the error, which I have explained now already several times.

To believe that there is a way from the I to the self. From the limited to the absolute.

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

We have current times, in which now still the last latecomers wake up. That's why I rarely once again extend a helping hand. You pathetically hypocritical ego lovers will most certainly not be among them.

Those who do not take to heart the clear hint that the I has no consciousness, but appears in consciousness, because their ego does not feel petted enough with light, love and compassion, just goes to hell.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028

you sound exactly like a fundamental christian.

You haven't contributed to the topic whatsoever except by demonstrating a condescending superiority attitude, to everyone.
 Quoting: Satyarevelations


He's a miserable person. This is how miserable people act.

My husband isn't "spiritual" but he's very wise. He always tells me "If you could see who you were arguing with over the internet, you wouldn't be arguing with them"

Let's just send him compassion and move on.

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Yep. Anyone as "advanced" as they claim to be wouldn't be behaving this way. He's clearly looking for a fight, which is sad.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


In any case, I can see that a few morons are getting worked up over formalities and appearances. And there is a very simple reason for this.

You have nothing to say about the content and the topic.

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.

Such a view is based, like the rest of the garbage, which you fabricate in your atrophied brains, exactly on the error, which I have explained now already several times.

To believe that there is a way from the I to the self. From the limited to the absolute.

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

We have current times, in which now still the last latecomers wake up. That's why I rarely once again extend a helping hand. You pathetically hypocritical ego lovers will most certainly not be among them.

Those who do not take to heart the clear hint that the I has no consciousness, but appears in consciousness, because their ego does not feel petted enough with light, love and compassion, just goes to hell.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028

you sound exactly like a fundamental christian.

You haven't contributed to the topic whatsoever except by demonstrating a condescending superiority attitude, to everyone.
 Quoting: Satyarevelations


He's a miserable person. This is how miserable people act.

My husband isn't "spiritual" but he's very wise. He always tells me "If you could see who you were arguing with over the internet, you wouldn't be arguing with them"

Let's just send him compassion and move on.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


wise words indeed. If I would have stepped back a second, and listend to my husband, he would have said the same. Thank you.

:Shaanti:
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Well it's true just cut off male testicles and we're there.

Except, this is already what is happening and we're well on our way.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


You are, of course, correct. However, there is a valuable lesson to be learned here. It’s not only “not worth” my time and energy, but the person is in fact a parasitic energy vampire seeking to be fed. This is the Modus Operandi of those who unwittingly work for the Archonic forces. They are “organic portals” and this guy is a prime example.

As a biological avatar (“organic”) animated by Demiourgos consciousness, he serves as a “portal”, a tool of the Controllers to elicit low-vibrational loosh energy that he siphons for his overlords.

The world is filled with these non-Souled NPCs who (unknowingly) serve to maintain the Soul prison by keeping Souled humans in a low-vibrational state of being to be milked for loosh energy.

For someone purporting to hold high intellect, he clearly lacks wisdom. Who else but a witless buffoon would make this remark:

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Wow!

Setting his distorted viewpoints on Love and Spirituality aside, there is an important point that he brought up that is noteworthy and deserves discussion. It is a subject I myself posted about some 6 months ago. Maybe 12 months ago. In fact, he probably stole the material from me and posted it as his own idea. chuckle

In his vitriolic reaction to me (so much for Ego without Ego), he wrote:

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Let’s set aside the FIVE times he efforts to insult everyone’s intelligence and focus on the subject:

….light and love workers…. (do not) realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side ….

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence.

 Quoting: ELB 73348028


He describes the “I” as being responsible for trying to eliminate one side of Duality while preserving the other side of that particular Duality. His reference to the “I” is not relevant and he errantly overshadows the main point of eliminating one side of Duality by focusing on his obsession with the Ego.

The important issue here is that he is absolutely correct that it is a mistake for any person (particularly the Love and Light crowd) to believe they can eliminate the Dark side of Duality and preserve the Light.

Light and Dark are polarities of the same energy. One cannot exist without the other. Every last thing in this world is a Duality, with both sides of a particular energy needing its opposite.

For example:

Love / Hate
Good / Evil
Hot / Cold
Light / Dark
Slow / Fast
Fear / Bravery
Male / Female
Smart / Stupid
Day / Night
Sun / Moon
Motion / Rest
Near / Far
Sickness / Health
Wide / Narrow
Expansion / Contraction
Excitement / Apathy
Comfort / Pain
Rich / Poor
Truth/Lies

One cannot know Love without knowing Hate.
One cannot know Health without knowing Sickness.
One cannot know Truth without knowing Lies.

….so on and so forth.

I posted at length some time back that the religious crowd seeks to eliminate the Darkness and preserve only the Light.

This is not possible, and Mr. Everlasting Love, the Egoless man with the biggest Ego on GLP is correct about this.

I could go into great detail on this subject, as I have in the past, but it’s a separate topic and subject. It is absolutely related to this thread (and I believe it holds a key esoteric secret to exiting the matrix), but I do not wish to distract from the thread any further than it has already been derailed.

Out of respect for you 4 ladies that posted in reply to the Egoless One, if he elects to post again, I’ll refrain from commenting.

Let’s get back on point. My apologies to those in the thread for the distraction.

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
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“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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He's a miserable person. This is how miserable people act.

My husband isn't "spiritual" but he's very wise. He always tells me "If you could see who you were arguing with over the internet, you wouldn't be arguing with them"

Let's just send him compassion and move on.
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Dear Sexy_Squirrel,

To conclude the matter, a short summary and final explanation. Above all, also to dispel the fallacy that this was about picking a fight.

I am very well. Just as my avatar was originally called. This also has to do with the fact that I am considerably more "advanced", as you call it, than you can currently imagine.

It is basically that the way I have presented myself here is paradoxical and contradictory. That serves to separate the wheat from the chaff.

People who are actually spiritual also recognize this immediately and instinctively recognize the deep truth, even if not everything is understood yet.

Logically, these are the people with whom it makes any sense at all to invest time to offer ones support.

With you, who ignore all statements that disturb your world view and who only jump at what is at the core of the "ego", namely the separation, the evaluation, the judgment, etc., it naturally makes no sense to get involved in endless debates, which are essentially only about you defending your thought constructs and fantasies and wanting to be right.

It's not that I don't realize that it's psychologically nonsense to kick you in the balls - figuratively speaking - right at the beginning of a conversation, because it's clear that this normally only causes a defensive reaction and the shutters come down immediately.

For me, however, this is perfectly ok, because the statement I made, that you have picked up something that is quite right and that then, however, you try to integrate in the wrong, your person, stays and perhaps also bears fruit with you at some point.

You are currently so far away from the truth that it is impossible to do more here than to point out the very elementary perception disorder (wanting to be spirit in the material body-mind). You will need years of processing, after you have recognized your error. If you ever recognize it. A forum or a comment section can't do that.

So it should be clear that it is not only about you, but also about giving silent readers a hint, where the well known errors in thinking are based, which you spread here and to offer them a chance to look for a dialogue.

To say that once again unequivocally:

The point was to do two things. To show readers that you are mistaken, because you twist your own truth by 180° right at the beginning, so your worldview has no foundation and is built on sand. But also to warn against Zovalex.

It is unclear how many have followed what happened here, therefore once again in keywords.

I have made a few references regarding the nature of consciousness for all those who are true seekers.

This has included repeating many times that there is no ego without ego, that the ego therefore always has ego, and also pointing out that the "I" is a fragmentary event and only relatively real, that the person with whom you are all identified is not an actual entity. Furthermore, I clearly stated that the self, your true identity, cannot be found in the person and why this is so. And even though this is not the ultimate truth, what is crucial for you and your current point of understanding is the realization that you have nothing to do with the person with whom you are identified.

All of this is completely ignored, denied or permanently twisted into the opposite by Zovalex.(“so much for Ego without Ego”, “Egoless One“…)

His narcissistic megalomania then even goes so far as to claim that I have stolen from him a profane beginner's insight regarding the quality of duality. There I ask for understanding if I keep such stupid and crazy psychiatry candidates at bay by holding the ego-mirror before them, as I have done here in the thread.

When you have insight, responsibility arises. That's why now, unfortunately, exactly what I wanted to avoid has happened again, namely wasting my time with those who, sadly, can almost never be helped. Not because I don't want to, but because those who want to help their "I" to succeed are hard to reach for the only truth and factual reality.

All the best for your further journey

P.S. The Archons psychotic Zovalex writes about are a gnostic description of aspects of the "I".

P.P.S I would like to deepen this once again: For myself, such a distinction does not matter, but you should be aware that it is not crucial whether you have good or bad intentions, but that in the religious sense you are fighting on the side of Lucifer if you are under the misapprehension that you can transform your material, limited ego-I person into a spiritual, unlimited soul that is One with God. The good news is, reality is already reality. So nothing has to be achieved. It just needs to be recognized by you.
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He's a miserable person. This is how miserable people act.

My husband isn't "spiritual" but he's very wise. He always tells me "If you could see who you were arguing with over the internet, you wouldn't be arguing with them"

Let's just send him compassion and move on.
 Quoting: Sexy Squirrel


Dear Sexy_Squirrel,

To conclude the matter, a short summary and final explanation. Above all, also to dispel the fallacy that this was about picking a fight.

I am very well. Just as my avatar was originally called. This also has to do with the fact that I am considerably more "advanced", as you call it, than you can currently imagine.

It is basically that the way I have presented myself here is paradoxical and contradictory. That serves to separate the wheat from the chaff.

People who are actually spiritual also recognize this immediately and instinctively recognize the deep truth, even if not everything is understood yet.

Logically, these are the people with whom it makes any sense at all to invest time to offer ones support.

With you, who ignore all statements that disturb your world view and who only jump at what is at the core of the "ego", namely the separation, the evaluation, the judgment, etc., it naturally makes no sense to get involved in endless debates, which are essentially only about you defending your thought constructs and fantasies and wanting to be right.

It's not that I don't realize that it's psychologically nonsense to kick you in the balls - figuratively speaking - right at the beginning of a conversation, because it's clear that this normally only causes a defensive reaction and the shutters come down immediately.

For me, however, this is perfectly ok, because the statement I made, that you have picked up something that is quite right and that then, however, you try to integrate in the wrong, your person, stays and perhaps also bears fruit with you at some point.

You are currently so far away from the truth that it is impossible to do more here than to point out the very elementary perception disorder (wanting to be spirit in the material body-mind). You will need years of processing, after you have recognized your error. If you ever recognize it. A forum or a comment section can't do that.

So it should be clear that it is not only about you, but also about giving silent readers a hint, where the well known errors in thinking are based, which you spread here and to offer them a chance to look for a dialogue.

To say that once again unequivocally:

The point was to do two things. To show readers that you are mistaken, because you twist your own truth by 180° right at the beginning, so your worldview has no foundation and is built on sand. But also to warn against Zovalex.

It is unclear how many have followed what happened here, therefore once again in keywords.

I have made a few references regarding the nature of consciousness for all those who are true seekers.

This has included repeating many times that there is no ego without ego, that the ego therefore always has ego, and also pointing out that the "I" is a fragmentary event and only relatively real, that the person with whom you are all identified is not an actual entity. Furthermore, I clearly stated that the self, your true identity, cannot be found in the person and why this is so. And even though this is not the ultimate truth, what is crucial for you and your current point of understanding is the realization that you have nothing to do with the person with whom you are identified.

All of this is completely ignored, denied or permanently twisted into the opposite by Zovalex.(“so much for Ego without Ego”, “Egoless One“…)

His narcissistic megalomania then even goes so far as to claim that I have stolen from him a profane beginner's insight regarding the quality of duality. There I ask for understanding if I keep such stupid and crazy psychiatry candidates at bay by holding the ego-mirror before them, as I have done here in the thread.

When you have insight, responsibility arises. That's why now, unfortunately, exactly what I wanted to avoid has happened again, namely wasting my time with those who, sadly, can almost never be helped. Not because I don't want to, but because those who want to help their "I" to succeed are hard to reach for the only truth and factual reality.

All the best for your further journey

P.S. The Archons psychotic Zovalex writes about are a gnostic description of aspects of the "I".

P.P.S I would like to deepen this once again: For myself, such a distinction does not matter, but you should be aware that it is not crucial whether you have good or bad intentions, but that in the religious sense you are fighting on the side of Lucifer if you are under the misapprehension that you can transform your material, limited ego-I person into a spiritual, unlimited soul that is One with God. The good news is, reality is already reality. So nothing has to be achieved. It just needs to be recognized by you.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Well I for one, would be interested in what you have to say if you would be willing to speak in an informative manner, in such a way as could be understood by imbeciles such as myself, without condescension or belittling. Seems like you have something of significance to share.
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Avoid the "light" at the end no matter how compelling.
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Bump to watch later!
Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most!

Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable!

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Complete and utter garbage.

There is no reincarnation.

A person is either born again of the Spirit while alive on earth or they aren't.

There is no coming back and there are no second chances after this world.

God didn't create man on spin cycle.

Anyone who believes in reincarnation is delusional.

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Complete and utter garbage.

There is no reincarnation.

A person is either born again of the Spirit while alive on earth or they aren't.

There is no coming back and there are no second chances after this world.

God didn't create man on spin cycle.

Anyone who believes in reincarnation is delusional.
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There is continual learning, growth, and progression in the afterlife and unlimited assistance there for all who wish to do so, therefore, ‘no second chances after this world’ is also delusional, you’ll be pleased to learn.
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Hey Zovalex, I don't think it is worth your time or energy to do verbal jousting with ELB. It's almost like they want to pick a sparring session with you. You don't have to prove anything, none of us do. We are all here to learn.
 Quoting: The Real Mi


You are, of course, correct. However, there is a valuable lesson to be learned here. It’s not only “not worth” my time and energy, but the person is in fact a parasitic energy vampire seeking to be fed. This is the Modus Operandi of those who unwittingly work for the Archonic forces. They are “organic portals” and this guy is a prime example.

As a biological avatar (“organic”) animated by Demiourgos consciousness, he serves as a “portal”, a tool of the Controllers to elicit low-vibrational loosh energy that he siphons for his overlords.

The world is filled with these non-Souled NPCs who (unknowingly) serve to maintain the Soul prison by keeping Souled humans in a low-vibrational state of being to be milked for loosh energy.

For someone purporting to hold high intellect, he clearly lacks wisdom. Who else but a witless buffoon would make this remark:

By the way, it is a myth and misconception that you can tell from a person's behavior where they stand in their "spiritual development". Only idiots believe such a thing.
 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Wow!

Setting his distorted viewpoints on Love and Spirituality aside, there is an important point that he brought up that is noteworthy and deserves discussion. It is a subject I myself posted about some 6 months ago. Maybe 12 months ago. In fact, he probably stole the material from me and posted it as his own idea. chuckle

In his vitriolic reaction to me (so much for Ego without Ego), he wrote:

Only imbeciles think they are light and love workers because only imbeciles are too stupid to realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side is so stupid that it hurts.

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence. Anyone who thinks they can achieve that clearly has an IQ below 70.

 Quoting: ELB 73348028


Let’s set aside the FIVE times he efforts to insult everyone’s intelligence and focus on the subject:

….light and love workers…. (do not) realize that it is the I itself that divides reality into good and evil. Trying to end this self-inflicted division and duality by serving only one side ….

For what you want to do, the I would have to experience its own absence.

 Quoting: ELB 73348028


He describes the “I” as being responsible for trying to eliminate one side of Duality while preserving the other side of that particular Duality. His reference to the “I” is not relevant and he errantly overshadows the main point of eliminating one side of Duality by focusing on his obsession with the Ego.

The important issue here is that he is absolutely correct that it is a mistake for any person (particularly the Love and Light crowd) to believe they can eliminate the Dark side of Duality and preserve the Light.

Light and Dark are polarities of the same energy. One cannot exist without the other. Every last thing in this world is a Duality, with both sides of a particular energy needing its opposite.

For example:

Love / Hate
Good / Evil
Hot / Cold
Light / Dark
Slow / Fast
Fear / Bravery
Male / Female
Smart / Stupid
Day / Night
Sun / Moon
Motion / Rest
Near / Far
Sickness / Health
Wide / Narrow
Expansion / Contraction
Excitement / Apathy
Comfort / Pain
Rich / Poor
Truth/Lies

One cannot know Love without knowing Hate.
One cannot know Health without knowing Sickness.
One cannot know Truth without knowing Lies.

….so on and so forth.

I posted at length some time back that the religious crowd seeks to eliminate the Darkness and preserve only the Light.

This is not possible, and Mr. Everlasting Love, the Egoless man with the biggest Ego on GLP is correct about this.

I could go into great detail on this subject, as I have in the past, but it’s a separate topic and subject. It is absolutely related to this thread (and I believe it holds a key esoteric secret to exiting the matrix), but I do not wish to distract from the thread any further than it has already been derailed.

Out of respect for you 4 ladies that posted in reply to the Egoless One, if he elects to post again, I’ll refrain from commenting.

Let’s get back on point. My apologies to those in the thread for the distraction.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


You aren't distracting from the thread by presenting your ideas and insights. I believe many of the conclusions you have come to are correct and would be happy to hear more.
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