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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79831996 United States 06/05/2022 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. read the Book of Enoch [link to sacred-texts.com (secure)] 1. And the names of the sun are the following: the first Orjârês, and the second Tômâs. 2. And the moon has four names: the first name is Asônjâ, the second Eblâ, the third Benâsê, and the fourth Erâe. 3. These are the two great luminaries: their circumference is like the circumference of the heaven, and the size of the circumference of both is alike. 4. In the circumference of the sun there are seven portions of light which are added to it more than to the moon, and in definite measures it is s transferred till the seventh portion of the sun is exhausted. 5. And they set and enter the portals of the west, and make their revolution by the north, and come forth through the eastern portals on the face of the heaven. 6. And when the moon rises one-fourteenth part appears in the heaven: ⌈the light becomes full in her⌉: on the fourteenth day she accomplishes her light. 7. And fifteen parts of light are transferred to her till the fifteenth day (when) her light is accomplished, according to the sign of the year, and she becomes fifteen p. 105 parts, and the moon grows by (the addition of) fourteenth parts. 8. And in her waning (the moon) decreases on the first day to fourteen parts of her light, on the second to thirteen parts of light, on the third to twelve, on the fourth to eleven, on the fifth to ten, on the sixth to nine, on the seventh to eight, on the eighth to seven, on the ninth to six, on the tenth to five, on the eleventh to four, on the twelfth to three, on the thirteenth to two, on the fourteenth to the half of a seventh, and all her remaining light disappears wholly on the fifteenth. 9. And in certain months the month has twenty-nine days and once twenty-eight. 10. And Uriel showed me another law: when light is transferred to the moon, and on which side it is transferred to her by the sun. 11. During all the period during which the moon is growing in her light, she is transferring it to herself when opposite to the sun during fourteen days [her light is accomplished in the heaven], and when she is illumined throughout, her light is accomplished full in the heaven. 12. And on the first day she is called the new moon, for on that day the light rises upon her. 13. She becomes full moon exactly on the day when the sun sets in the west, and from the east she rises at night, and the moon shines the whole night through till the sun rises over against her and the moon is seen over against the sun. 14. On the side whence the light of the moon comes forth, there again she wanes till all the light vanishes and all the days of the month are at an end, and her circumference is empty, void of light. 15. And three months she makes of thirty days, and at her time she makes three months of twenty-nine days each, in which she accomplishes her waning in the first period of time, and in the first portal for one hundred and seventy-seven days. 16. And in the time of her going out she appears for three months (of) thirty days each, and for three months she appears (of) twenty-nine each. 17. At night she appears like a man for twenty days each time, and by day she appears like p. 106 the heaven, and there is nothing else in her save her light. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79831996 United States 06/05/2022 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. And now, my son, I have shown thee everything, and the law of all the stars of the heaven is completed. 2. And he showed me all the laws of these for every day, and for every season of bearing rule, and for every year, and for its going forth, and for the order prescribed to it every month and every week: 3. And the waning of the moon which takes place in the sixth portal: for in this sixth portal her light is accomplished, and after that there is the beginning of the waning: 4. 〈And the waning〉 which takes place in the first portal in its season, till one hundred and seventy-seven days are accomplished: reckoned according to weeks, twenty-five (weeks) and two days. 5. She falls behind the sun and the order of the stars exactly five days in the course of one period, and when this place which thou seest has been traversed. 6. Such is the picture and sketch of every luminary which Uriel the archangel, who is their leader, showed unto me. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Why do you even try? Flat earthers aren’t convinced by facts. They are too emotionally bought in. Many of them know FE is nonsense but they have are too invested in the idea and can’t let it go. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219026 Sometimes you have to push boundaries for growth to happen. Society has been stagnant for quite a long while now and positive change I think is welcomed by all, even Flat earthers. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. They're just projections on a dome and the Sun is a heat lamp on rails like a gimbal Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80884819 Dome? rails? gimbal? And these are all transparent, right? Invisible, only you and others in your group can see, right? Well, you did answer, I'm not going to say it's a good answer. But at least you tried. Don't expect Noble. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80884819 United States 06/05/2022 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. They're just projections on a dome and the Sun is a heat lamp on rails like a gimbal Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80884819 Dome? rails? gimbal? And these are all transparent, right? Invisible, only you and others in your group can see, right? Well, you did answer, I'm not going to say it's a good answer. But at least you tried. Don't expect Noble. You don't see the movie screen while the movie is showing. Same with the dome screen. It's constantly projecting sky blue and the starry night. Why would you be able to see something behind a screen? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. They're just projections on a dome and the Sun is a heat lamp on rails like a gimbal Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80884819 Dome? rails? gimbal? And these are all transparent, right? Invisible, only you and others in your group can see, right? Well, you did answer, I'm not going to say it's a good answer. But at least you tried. Don't expect Noble. You don't see the movie screen while the movie is showing. Same with the dome screen. It's constantly projecting sky blue and the starry night. Why would you be able to see something behind a screen? If earth had a dome, wouldn't its ceiling be lower near the ends like in Ushuaia, and be highest at the center like Barrow Alaska? - Wouldn't a barometer register greater atmospheric pressure at the center than near the edge? - Wouldn't high cloud formation closer to the edge differ from those nearest to the center? - Wouldn't sunrises and sunsets look different due to more light refraction from a lower ceiling when Sol orbits closer to the edge than when orbiting where the sky is highest at the center? - Wouldn't the horizon appear much further where the sky-ceiling is highest (center) than where the dome curves towards the surface of the edge? They would, but they don't! |
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User ID: 81115095 United States 06/05/2022 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. if the earth is flat......then everything we see in the sky ....on the horizon....and in the heavens..... are magical holograms .... that move with each individuals perspective.....carefully engineered to perfectly mimic what should be seen from the surface of a spherical earth...... this is the only answer flat earthers can logically arrive at....yet they always insist on arguing that we simply dont understand geometry and perspective..... Last Edited by 11Pythagoras11 on 06/05/2022 11:12 PM |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Hydrogen, like the Hindenburg, but with a tougher shell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80542838 It's the most abundant element in the universe. All right, okay, okay, I get it. You used the heliocentric understanding of the sun's composition, well done. Can't argue. And the moon has a little helium added in her and why she shines white. Okay. But how does the SUN & MOON revolve? And how do both do it without crashing into each other? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012942 06/05/2022 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. if the earth is flat......then everything we see in the sky ....on the horizon....and in the heavens..... are magical holograms .... that move with each individuals perspective.....carefully engineered to perfectly mimic what should be seen from the surface of a spherical earth...... Quoting: 11Pythagoras11 this is the only answer flat earthers can logically arrive at....yet they always insist on arguing that we simply dont understand geometry and perspective..... if the earth is flat......then everything we see in the sky ....on the horizon....and in the heavens..... are magical holograms .... that move with each individuals perspective.....carefully engineered to perfectly mimic what should be seen from the surface of a spherical earth...... Quoting: 11Pythagoras11 this is the only answer flat earthers can logically arrive at....yet they always insist on arguing that we simply dont understand geometry and perspective..... Holographic simulation theory is actually very popular among physicists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012942 06/05/2022 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Hydrogen, like the Hindenburg, but with a tougher shell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80542838 It's the most abundant element in the universe. All right, okay, okay, I get it. You used the heliocentric understanding of the sun's composition, well done. Can't argue. And the moon has a little helium added in her and why she shines white. Okay. But how does the SUN & MOON revolve? And how do both do it without crashing into each other? How does it all work on globe earth? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Oh I'm sorry you're on the wrong thread see, this is a flat earth subject. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012942 06/05/2022 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Oh I'm sorry you're on the wrong thread see, this is a flat earth subject. So you expect someone to understand the mechanics of how a flat earth works, but you are completely ok believing in a ball earth with no proof of how any of it works? Sorry I'm just trying to understand the point of this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80219026 United States 06/05/2022 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Basic science has shown how it works on a globe earth. Even if you deny that, we have sent humans to space over and over again, and they have looked back at the earth and seen it as the globe that it is. That includes many civilians, and as space tourism continues to grow there will be more and more people reporting that the earth is a globe. The entire FE nonsense will finally cease. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012942 06/05/2022 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Basic science has shown how it works on a globe earth. Even if you deny that, we have sent humans to space over and over again, and they have looked back at the earth and seen it as the globe that it is. That includes many civilians, and as space tourism continues to grow there will be more and more people reporting that the earth is a globe. The entire FE nonsense will finally cease. Nope. Basic science has unproven theories that morons like you believe blindly. There are no non cgi images of the earth as a globe. If civilian space flight was going to gain real traction, it would have 20 years ago. Sorry the jig is up, space is a hoax. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80687796 Canada 06/05/2022 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Oh I'm sorry you're on the wrong thread see, this is a flat earth subject. So you expect someone to understand the mechanics of how a flat earth works, but you are completely ok believing in a ball earth with no proof of how any of it works? Sorry I'm just trying to understand the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to push boundaries, flat earth boundaries. Ball earth is devoid of Physics, it exists in a vacuum hence why ball earth theories are possible to some extent. Flat earth should be based on Physics. Do you understand? |
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User ID: 36662099 United States 06/05/2022 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. Remember gravity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80687796 Oh right right for ya'll it's buoyancy and density! Well then, do explain...... Easy. The same way hummingbirds and bumblebees fly, it’s tapped into the earths energy resonance. This plane is pure and energy fields. You learn to tap into them to become enlightened to ascend. Vibrational frequency is real and the earth runs on it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012942 06/05/2022 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: To any and all Flat Earthers worth their salt, explain how the SUN & MOON remains suspended up in the sky. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78012942 First explain how it works on a globe earth. Show proof please. Oh I'm sorry you're on the wrong thread see, this is a flat earth subject. So you expect someone to understand the mechanics of how a flat earth works, but you are completely ok believing in a ball earth with no proof of how any of it works? Sorry I'm just trying to understand the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to push boundaries, flat earth boundaries. Ball earth is devoid of Physics, it exists in a vacuum hence why ball earth theories are possible to some extent. Flat earth should be based on Physics. Do you understand? I don't think you understand. You just say physics and vacuum like that means anything. |