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Message Subject Trump in 2020: If Biden gets in you'll be paying 7, 8 or 9 bucks a gallon, then they will say get rid of your car...
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Thought I'd pass along the following boots on the ground information concerning US oil supply. I just finished speaking with a friend and neighbor of mine who is a tug boat captain who runs oil along the west coast. He works three weeks on and three weeks off and has been at sea for a many years. He is very highly experienced and his tug is cutting edge. (Don't want to give too much info about him).

This week, he was due to unload his oil in Long Beach but mid morning Tuesday, he was told to turn around and anchor in a big bay because there was no storage available to unload. He said tankers are stacked up with the same problem, the storage tanks are FULL of oil. I asked him how the supply levels were compared to 4-5 years ago and he said the same, full. He also said that they are pumping the hell out of oil in Alaska and there is a ton coming in from overseas.

My friend also stated emphatically that he is no communist but the profits being generated by these fuel prices is outrageous and in his opinion, the high prices are a scam. He is shipping the same amount of oil he has shipped for years! His evidence is that there is no oil shortage.

Thread: OIL & GAS SCAM - [ NEW UNCLE INTEL ] - $8/gallon = $440/barrel - but here we are @ $120/barrel = USA is FULL OF OIL to THE BRIM!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83604068


Sounds like you need to learn the difference between a TUG boat and a TANKER. Tugs do NOT have cargo holds; their sole purpose is to steer larger ships into port berths and they certainly do not "run oil" up or down any coastlines.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Obviously YOU have never lived along the coast or the Great Lakes. Tugs move cargo all the time along the coast, yep out in the ocean. They do the same on the Great Lakes.

Tugs aren't just for pushing ships sideways while they are in a harbor, they are also used on our river systems for moving cargo (pushing the barges), or for moving cargo along the coasts as well as some limited open ocean transiting. (inside of harbors they generally push ... on the ocean or Great Lakes generally pull)

Much of the refined oil product that moves from Texas to Florida is shipped by barges which are pulled by Tugs across the Gulf of Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82248180



Actually I did live on the NOCAL coast all during the 1980's and saw many tankers enter the SF Bay area where there are no less than FIVE oil refineries that accept that crude; and tugs were not commonly used until those larger vessels approached port.

Again: and just like tankers, tugs are NOT barges. The tugs may provide the power to move that cargo but they do not themselves carry any and THAT was the distinction I was very clearly making when I stated tugs do not have cargo holds because that precious space is all taken up by the massive engines needed to move other vessels.

The poster who received my reply did not make that distinction and instead phrased his comments to imply the tugs themselves were carrying ["running"] oil which they do not. He even went so far as to quote the Tug Captain as saying it was "his" oil which is another glaring misinterpretation since tug operators are subcontractors unless owned by the petroleum importer themselves.

Congratulations on reinforcing a false narrative.
 
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