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Jesus in the old testament (Tanak)

 
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Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us."

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

"Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion."

"I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
'You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.



Psalms 2:1-7



hmm
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Hebrews 1:8 "for about the Son He says they throne oh God is forever.". God calls him God. It's the God family.
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"Thy throne is God, [Solomon]"
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That's not the true translation.
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"No unproved King is the Lord Jesus Christ, for he was thoroughly tried and tested as to his love for righteousness.
When on earth he spurned the Devil’s offer for rulership over this unrighteous world. He stayed loyal to his Father and the divine principles of righteousness.
Applying Psalm 45:7 to Jesus Christ, the inspired writer of H3br3ws 1:8, 9 says: “But with reference to the Son:
‘God is your throne forever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of straight principles.
You loved righteousness and hated lawlessness.’”

How thrilling to our hearts this assurance that the King of the new world loves righteousness, that his very scepter is one of “straight principles”!
Further, since it is said of God’s King that “God is your throne forever,” we have another guarantee of the new world’s righteousness; for at Psalm 97:2 we read of God’s throne: “Righteousness and judgment are the established place of his throne.”WT 60 3/15, )w.org
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Holy, holy, holy

Lord God Almighty

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Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.
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Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us."

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

"Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion."

"I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
'You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.



Psalms 2:1-7



hmm
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No trinity here.
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Hebrews 1:8 "for about the Son He says they throne oh God is forever.". God calls him God. It's the God family.
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"Thy throne is God, [Solomon]"
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That's not the true translation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


[...]
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I accuse you of using a false translation, you link to Jahoba.org. This can only be the reply of the squandered potential of chauchat.
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The entire Old Testament is Jesus. He was the Word made flesh.
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“The Kingdom of God now, at or about this point in the Infinite Reach, begins in the ordination of the Word of God as the King and the Messiah. (See Psalm ii. 6,7.)”

Before the creation of aggregate matter even….
"Fiat Lux et Veritas"
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You are a disgusting heretic who doesn't even believe Jesus is God.

Sad to see you haven't changed all this time.
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i think I have never met anyone so spiteful. If you are trying to reach God's children you are not succeeding. If there is truth to be taught you better pray to God for a new tongue.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You do not even believe Jesus is God.

You are a cultist heretic and antichrist.
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As I have said. Jesus is the Son of God but you seem to deny this. Here is what it takes to be saved.

Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
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You are a disgusting heretic who doesn't even believe Jesus is God.

Sad to see you haven't changed all this time.
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i think I have never met anyone so spiteful. If you are trying to reach God's children you are not succeeding. If there is truth to be taught you better pray to God for a new tongue.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You do not even believe Jesus is God.

You are a cultist heretic and antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


As I have said. Jesus is the Son of God but you seem to deny this.
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You say the Son of God but that amounts to a created being instead of the eternal God which He is.
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Here is what it takes to be saved.
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John 8:24
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins.”
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Here is what it takes to be saved.
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John 8:24
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins.”
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KJV I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins..
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i think I have never met anyone so spiteful. If you are trying to reach God's children you are not succeeding. If there is truth to be taught you better pray to God for a new tongue.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You do not even believe Jesus is God.

You are a cultist heretic and antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


As I have said. Jesus is the Son of God but you seem to deny this.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You say the Son of God but that amounts to a created being instead of the eternal God which He is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
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Here is what it takes to be saved.
 Quoting: Achduke7


John 8:24
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


KJV I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins..
 Quoting: Achduke7


KJV has added words.. which of course you know because we surely have been down this road before... which makes you dishonest.
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You do not even believe Jesus is God.

You are a cultist heretic and antichrist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


As I have said. Jesus is the Son of God but you seem to deny this.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You say the Son of God but that amounts to a created being instead of the eternal God which He is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
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John 1:1.. Jesus is God.
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And Wisdom is... *drum roll*... Jesus (1 Cor 1:24). The Power of God... the Spirit... the Source of God's creation..
Etc.

Deal with it!
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Bible says 'Jesus Son of God'

You say 'Holy Spirit God Jesus'

Excerpts from the Pootine Bible

The Conception of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself".

The Baptism of Jesus

"Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...
...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...
...filled himself WITH himslef...
...then LED himself into the wilderness"


The Death of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus died on the Cross"??

"Holy Spirit Jesus was resurrected"????

The Day of Pentecost

"And Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of the Apostles and disciples on the day of Pentecost"

.....

So...have you prayed to the

Flaming Sword Holy Spirit God Jesus today???

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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And Wisdom is... *drum roll*... Jesus (1 Cor 1:24). The Power of God... the Spirit... the Source of God's creation..
Etc.

Deal with it!
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Bible says 'Jesus Son of God'

You say 'Holy Spirit God Jesus'
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False.

Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
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And Wisdom is... *drum roll*... Jesus (1 Cor 1:24). The Power of God... the Spirit... the Source of God's creation..
Etc.

Deal with it!
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Bible says 'Jesus Son of God'

You say 'Holy Spirit God Jesus'
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


False.

Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
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2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
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Re: Jesus in the old testament (Tanak)
Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us."

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

"Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion."

"I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
'You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.



Psalms 2:1-7



hmm
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No trinity here.
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Because you are that notorious anti-trinity canadian cultist.
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And Wisdom is... *drum roll*... Jesus (1 Cor 1:24). The Power of God... the Spirit... the Source of God's creation..
Etc.

Deal with it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127

Bible says 'Jesus Son of God'

You say 'Holy Spirit God Jesus'
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False.

Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127




And here's that canuckistan cultist now
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Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us."

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:

"Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion."

"I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
'You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.



Psalms 2:1-7



hmm
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No trinity here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127



Because you are that notorious anti-trinity canadian cultist.
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No not because of that, but because there is no trinity in the Scriptures. When you post anything it's about Jesus not the trinity or a part of the trinity etc.
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Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
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Jesus is the Lord who is the Spirit!
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Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
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Jesus is the Lord who is the Spirit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.

The supposition for [made] is into a quickening spirit.

The Spirit in Jesus is God(Word) All together temple/body and Spirit.


Mat 26:61 And said, This [fellow] said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.

Phi 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:




Your issue is you like to apply English logic to Greek words after they have been translated to English.

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KJV has added words.. which of course you know because we surely have been down this road before... which makes you dishonest.
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No it hasnt, and id love to school you on this.

Textus receptus represents the majority text where they have taken the church fathers into account.

Nestle aland or the critical text represents mainly 2 old manuscripts written on parchment, namely codex sinaiticus and vaticanus. Not saying they are worthless, but more or less the rest of other ancient manuscripts testify AGAINST them, including the church fathers, on where they differ.

So, you have been humbled here regarding the nonsense you post on Jesus being the Holy spirit, which is binatarian nonsense, an ancient herecy that never really took off, because as we see, that nonsense doesnt hold up when we take a quick look in the bible. So lets humble you on this aswell.

Post what you claim have been "added", and i will school you, since I find this more fun and enjoyable than debunking your other nonsense, which I and others here also have done, but this isnt boring to me, and everyone can learn something about the reliability of the bible we have from this which is useful when they bump into more sophisticated liars like Barth Ehrman, which im sure they will some time if they engage in faith-related debates.

So, the floor is yours.

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Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
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Jesus is the Lord who is the Spirit!
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1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.

The Spirit in Jesus is God(Word) All together temple/body and Spirit.
 Quoting: Achduke7


There's only ONE quickening Spirit.

The Holy Spirit.

Deal with it.
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Ezekiel 37:14
I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’”

1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
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KJV has added words.. which of course you know because we surely have been down this road before... which makes you dishonest.
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No it hasnt, and id love to school you on this.
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Shut up, fool. Only an ignorant retard would claim that the KJV doesn't have any added words.
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Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

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The Spirit in Jesus is God(Word)
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Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
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KJV has added words.. which of course you know because we surely have been down this road before... which makes you dishonest.
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No it hasnt, and id love to school you on this.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Shut up, fool. Only an ignorant retard would claim that the KJV doesn't have any added words.
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Says you, who has wasted hours here arguing that Jesus is the Holy spirit....... GLP's own troll-heretic and forum-clown

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Re: Jesus in the old testament (Tanak)
Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


Jesus is the Lord who is the Spirit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.

The Spirit in Jesus is God(Word) All together temple/body and Spirit.
 Quoting: Achduke7


There's only ONE quickening Spirit.

The Holy Spirit.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75523127


You are completely incompetent at defending your position and false doctrines. After you have lost you resort to name calling which is a true sign you have lost an argument.

How many people have you convinced to join your cult?

Not even sure you could keep your one talent.

Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
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