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Jesus in the old testament (Tanak)

 
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Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood.
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(Incidentally I do believe that the Holy Spirit died on the cross).
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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
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does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
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roman catholic nonsense
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Like the trinity.. the god of the Roman Catholic Church which you worship.

crazy
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Except the trinity is what the bible teach. But the roman catholics have diefied Mary aswell, and put the pope in Christs place, plus claim that you are saved by works.

Im not saying you cant be a christian inside the roman catholic system, but the roman catholic system is not christian and do not teach biblical salvation.
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how do you reconcile the fact that ALL churches, including ALL protestant religions have been infiltrated by the Jesuits? This means Jesuit teachings and doctrines are now a part of yours.
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Yes which is why I accuse him of worshipping the roman catholic god.

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(Incidentally I do believe that the Holy Spirit died on the cross).
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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
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Yes but the Psalms teach that one's own spirit is own innermost being.
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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
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Yes but the Psalms teach that one's own spirit is one's* own innermost being.
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Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


(Incidentally I do believe that the Holy Spirit died on the cross).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


Spirit cannot die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
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Noone and nothing that becomes flesh is God by title and YHWH by name.

That is how the tanak lays out the path to avoid idolatry.

Infinite YHWH cannot be fully contained in anything finite let alone. It is as utterly ludicrous as a square triangle
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(Incidentally I do believe that the Holy Spirit died on the cross).
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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


Noone and nothing that becomes flesh is God by title and YHWH by name.

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God can do anything He wants..
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That's an interesting question. If the three are one, and we are made in THEIR image..... which one of us looks like all of THEM? People sure do look very differently. Are we supposed to look like Jesus?

Are we supposed to look like the Holy Spirit?

Are we supposed to look like frequency/vibration of such a high level as to be imperceivable?

Which one of the 3? or if all 3, can you elaborate on how we look like all 3?
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Video i posted in the first post here mentions it. We have a body, soul and spirit, we are 3 in one.
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Thus sayeth you

What does Gen 1 say man is?
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Adam was created from the dust of the earth. God breathed life into Adam. Adam and Eve was created in Gods image but that image was broken after they broke 1 law. Compare to how Christ breathed on his diciples and told them to recieve the Holy spirit in John 20:22. That was God restoring the relationship between God and man that was broken. James 2:10 also said if you fail to keep 1 law, you have broken them all (pointing to Adam and Eve, and our seperation from God by our own efforts) so salvation is a gift and rests on the merits of God, not ourselves.

Fun fact: In the targum, you see God walking with Adam and Eve in the garden is actually the WORD. Christ.

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False. What you claim not what I say.

Anyone who has ever read that post knows it's not what I actually have said.
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Bible says 'Jesus Son of God'

You say 'Holy Spirit God Jesus'

Excerpts from the Pootine Bible

The Conception of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself".

The Baptism of Jesus

"Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...
...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...
...filled himself WITH himslef...
...then LED himself into the wilderness"


The Death of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus died on the Cross"??

"Holy Spirit Jesus was resurrected"????

The Day of Pentecost

"And Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of the Apostles and disciples on the day of Pentecost"

.....

So...have you prayed to the

Flaming Sword Holy Spirit God Jesus today???

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
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Noone and nothing that becomes flesh is God by title and YHWH by name.

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God can do anything He wants..
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Psalm 78:41
Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
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That's an interesting question. If the three are one, and we are made in THEIR image..... which one of us looks like all of THEM? People sure do look very differently. Are we supposed to look like Jesus?

Are we supposed to look like the Holy Spirit?

Are we supposed to look like frequency/vibration of such a high level as to be imperceivable?

Which one of the 3? or if all 3, can you elaborate on how we look like all 3?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Video i posted in the first post here mentions it. We have a body, soul and spirit, we are 3 in one.
 Quoting: Just†Me


Thus sayeth you

What does Gen 1 say man is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


Adam was created from the dust of the earth. God breathed life into Adam. Adam and Eve was created in Gods image
 Quoting: Just†Me


So man was created 2 in 1 in God's image and was declared GOOD.

Thanks for playing, idolater.

: )
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Video i posted in the first post here mentions it. We have a body, soul and spirit, we are 3 in one.
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Thus sayeth you

What does Gen 1 say man is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


Adam was created from the dust of the earth. God breathed life into Adam. Adam and Eve was created in Gods image
 Quoting: Just†Me


So man was created 2 in 1 in God's image and was declared GOOD.

Thanks for playing, idolater.

: )
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*tumble weed*

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Spirit cannot die.
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Yes but the Psalms teach that one's own spirit is one's* own innermost being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


drevil
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The One True God, who is spirit, can do anything he wants. Even become flesh.
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does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
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Yes but the Psalms teach that one's own spirit is one's* own innermost being.
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drevil
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does that mean the One True God's *spirit* died?
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Yes but the Psalms teach that one's own spirit is one's* own innermost being.
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drevil
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crickets
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Ps 51:6
Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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Psalm 78:41
Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
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Ps 51:6
Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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Wisdom is the real chakra. Goku is shooting waves of wisdom.
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Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood.
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Ps 51:6
Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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Wisdom is the real chakra. Goku is shooting waves of wisdom.
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In 1 Cor 1:24 Paul identifies Wisdom, which is also Power, as Jesus.
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Psalms
Chapter 2
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
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Who is the power of God?
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hmm
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Jeremiah 10:12
But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom

hmm
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WHO is HE who is the Power and Wisdom by whom God made the Heavens and World?
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Luke 9
49And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. 50And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

2 Timothy 2:16 Context

13If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 14Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
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Who is the power of God?
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hmm
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Jeremiah 10:12
But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom

hmm
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WHO is HE who is the Power and Wisdom by whom God made the Heavens and World?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758
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Ps 51:6
Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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Exodus 33:18-23
18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”

19 And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

21 Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”
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Jesus in the NT is definitely the same God as God in the OT. Well done, OP!!

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Jesus in the NT is definitely the same God as God in the OT. Well done, OP!!

clappa
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Very true, but this has nothing to do with any "trinity", which OP preaches and thus spoils any true message he intends to spread.
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Jesus in the NT is definitely the same God as God in the OT. Well done, OP!!

clappa
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Very true, but this has nothing to do with any "trinity", which OP preaches and thus spoils any true message he intends to spread.
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God is a trinity, and you are a troll. All you do with filling up my tread with your nonsense is bumping up my tread. I kind of wish the mod got rid of you so people dont have to read trough your nonsense page up and page down here, but atleast you keep the tread on top.

So a spoiler for readers here: The interesting stuff here are on page 1 and 2, the rest here is mostly noise.
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Re: Jesus in the old testament (Tanak)
Jesus in the NT is definitely the same God as God in the OT. Well done, OP!!

clappa
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Thanks, much apriciated!
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Jesus in the NT is definitely the same God as God in the OT. Well done, OP!!

clappa
 Quoting: Shamar


Very true, but this has nothing to do with any "trinity", which OP preaches and thus spoils any true message he intends to spread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74928758


God is a trinity, and you are a troll. All you do with filling up my tread with your nonsense is bumping up my tread. I kind of wish the mod got rid of you so people dont have to read trough your nonsense page up and page down here, but atleast you keep the tread on top.

So a spoiler for readers here: The interesting stuff here are on page 1 and 2, the rest here is mostly noise.
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What is the name of He who is the Power of God?

You won't answer.

If you don't answer you are false.

Let it be so.
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Jesus would pray to the God of the OT, he was not Him iamwith
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Thats where we get into the trinity, Jesus is the WORD made flesh (John 1), that is not the same as the Father, but they are ONE (as John 10:30 states). The video also go into this, please watch.
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