Is physical silver an inflation hedge? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79585750 United States 06/14/2022 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its supposed to be..has been real money for thousands of years..but the market is totally manipulated via paper. So it's market value bears no resemblance to supply and demand anymore. Historically it has been 13-1 8-1 ratio to gold which should put it in the 150.00/200.00 oz range rather than 24 bucks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75118791 United States 06/14/2022 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silver is a non-expiring commodity. It has practical (many) and impractical (jewelry) uses. Like all commodities it is also subject to speculation. In many applications it is consumed and is not economically recoverable. It is an inflation hedge when: 1. The 'price' is close to the cost. 2. The cost is likely to increase. 3. Demand doesn't collapse completely due to obsolescence. In the long run nothing else matters. Speculation doesn't matter. Demand doesn't matter anyway (as long as there is enough demand as to make recycling/cannibalism insufficient to meet incremental demand). All currencies will continue to be debased. The ONLY concern for silver to the downside is IF: 1. Demand significantly decreases 2. The amount mined for other commodities (tin/copper/etc.) results in a market glut. There is no magic wand for mining at this point. The energy & equipment costs of mining aren't going to transform at this point. Labor is a fraction of those costs. So, in short: 1. Short term hedge? So-so. 2. Long term hedge? Yes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80262102 United States 06/14/2022 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better to park your money in something tangible when fiat runs out of faith. 5000 years of history on its side. Look at Venezuela - those who had the foresight to acquire physical bullion were able to weather the storm while their neighbors queued for blocks just to get flour from the govt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80262102 United States 06/14/2022 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at Venezuela - those who had the foresight to acquire physical bullion were able to weather the storm while their neighbors queued for blocks just to get flour from the govt. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83468125 United States 06/14/2022 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem here is pawnshops still use official rate when buying from you. Lets say 1oz pure silver is $20 spot price Nobody seels to you for less than $30 Nobody pays more than $12 buying from you If you need $100 better keep change in your wallet Say you are investor and have 2 boxes of silver / 1000 oz/ , look how much money you lost Paid $30k , sold for $12k -lost $18k Spot metal prices are for few chosen ones Only |
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User ID: 77201993 United States 06/14/2022 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silver is a non-expiring commodity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75118791 It has practical (many) and impractical (jewelry) uses. Like all commodities it is also subject to speculation. In many applications it is consumed and is not economically recoverable. It is an inflation hedge when: 1. The 'price' is close to the cost. 2. The cost is likely to increase. 3. Demand doesn't collapse completely due to obsolescence. In the long run nothing else matters. Speculation doesn't matter. Demand doesn't matter anyway (as long as there is enough demand as to make recycling/cannibalism insufficient to meet incremental demand). All currencies will continue to be debased. The ONLY concern for silver to the downside is IF: 1. Demand significantly decreases 2. The amount mined for other commodities (tin/copper/etc.) results in a market glut. There is no magic wand for mining at this point. The energy & equipment costs of mining aren't going to transform at this point. Labor is a fraction of those costs. So, in short: 1. Short term hedge? So-so. 2. Long term hedge? Yes. Can't disagree with anything above. Just want to add that if/when the USD goes bye bye and there is a secondary/black market for everything - having some silver on hand could be the difference between life/death. Not telling you to put 100% of your resources into silver but a few dozen ounces wouldn't be the worst idea.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79031244 United States 06/14/2022 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better to park your money in something tangible when fiat runs out of faith. 5000 years of history on its side. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80262102 Look at Venezuela - those who had the foresight to acquire physical bullion were able to weather the storm while their neighbors queued for blocks just to get flour from the govt. Learn from history or repeat it. One of the most fundamental lessons is only trust something you can physically hold. Which is what makes crypto absurd. What if they turn off the Internet? Or even just your access to it? How do you access your blockchain “wallet” then?/ |
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User ID: 83107346 United States 06/14/2022 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silver is a non-expiring commodity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75118791 It has practical (many) and impractical (jewelry) uses. Like all commodities it is also subject to speculation. In many applications it is consumed and is not economically recoverable. It is an inflation hedge when: 1. The 'price' is close to the cost. 2. The cost is likely to increase. 3. Demand doesn't collapse completely due to obsolescence. In the long run nothing else matters. Speculation doesn't matter. Demand doesn't matter anyway (as long as there is enough demand as to make recycling/cannibalism insufficient to meet incremental demand). All currencies will continue to be debased. The ONLY concern for silver to the downside is IF: 1. Demand significantly decreases 2. The amount mined for other commodities (tin/copper/etc.) results in a market glut. There is no magic wand for mining at this point. The energy & equipment costs of mining aren't going to transform at this point. Labor is a fraction of those costs. So, in short: 1. Short term hedge? So-so. 2. Long term hedge? Yes. Well put. And if it ever goes to zero, you can melt it down and kill werewolves with it. Last Edited by SaveUSa on 06/14/2022 08:57 AM Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45615889 United States 06/14/2022 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bought silver way back when it was about $7 and it was $1 over spot back then. I assumed that covered S&H but at $5 an ounce it adds up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82846113 United States 06/14/2022 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem here is pawnshops still use official rate when buying from you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83468125 Lets say 1oz pure silver is $20 spot price Nobody seels to you for less than $30 Nobody pays more than $12 buying from you If you need $100 better keep change in your wallet Say you are investor and have 2 boxes of silver / 1000 oz/ , look how much money you lost Paid $30k , sold for $12k -lost $18k Spot metal prices are for few chosen ones Only Anyone who believes this shill, is likely the dumbest f$ck on the face of this Earth. |
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