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The Circular Repetitive Monotony of Philosophical Discourse

 
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Mathematics is an example of an axiomatic system

Is philosophy a collection of various axiomatic systems albeit in these realms the discourse is usually carried out in a less rigorous or precise way?
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What is deductive reasoning other than working within an axiomatic system and determining what conclusions follow from some given assumptions?
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That is precisely it.
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You are putting the cart before the donkey here...

The axioms, in the form of words and grammatical constructs, are merely representations, presented in an agreed-upon format, enabling an analysis via rational processes to take place, which can be shared with others who understand the format (language). Ideas aren't words, words describe ideas (this is a reality that MANY cannot truly navigate effectively).
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Mathematics is an example of an axiomatic system

Is philosophy a collection of various axiomatic systems albeit in these realms the discourse is usually carried out in a less rigorous or precise way?
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What is deductive reasoning other than working within an axiomatic system and determining what conclusions follow from some given assumptions?
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That is precisely it.
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You are putting the cart before the donkey here...

The axioms, in the form of words and grammatical constructs, are merely representations, presented in an agreed-upon format, enabling an analysis via rational processes to take place, which can be shared with others who understand the format (language). Ideas aren't words, words describe ideas (this is a reality that MANY cannot truly navigate effectively).
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Okay... u2efine
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Jordan Peterson with Dr Warren Farrell – The boy crisis & avoiding school shootings
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I can watch this after my work shift is complete. However since it's so long please suggest some key points from the video.
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What is deductive reasoning other than working within an axiomatic system and determining what conclusions follow from some given assumptions?
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That is precisely it.
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You are putting the cart before the donkey here...

The axioms, in the form of words and grammatical constructs, are merely representations, presented in an agreed-upon format, enabling an analysis via rational processes to take place, which can be shared with others who understand the format (language). Ideas aren't words, words describe ideas (this is a reality that MANY cannot truly navigate effectively).
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Okay... u2efine
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Regardless of how much logic. grammer or IQ points one has, using a linear construct (language) to investigate a non-linear phenomena (metaphysics/ethics/epistemology...reality) is a fool's errand. To embrace true philosophy one must transcend the linear causal factors that bind one and that words are beholden to. One must explore experientially (Some time-honored methods include things like seated, formal meditation, hard physical labor, renunciation of social relationships and comfort items etc.)

When factoring in the 'tautology' you mention earlier, everything else (jibber-jab) is just mumbojumbo riding the winds of hot air.
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That is precisely it.
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You are putting the cart before the donkey here...

The axioms, in the form of words and grammatical constructs, are merely representations, presented in an agreed-upon format, enabling an analysis via rational processes to take place, which can be shared with others who understand the format (language). Ideas aren't words, words describe ideas (this is a reality that MANY cannot truly navigate effectively).
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Okay... u2efine
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Regardless of how much logic. grammer or IQ points one has, using a linear construct (language) to investigate a non-linear phenomena (metaphysics/ethics/epistemology...reality) is a fool's errand. To embrace true philosophy one must transcend the linear causal factors that bind one and that words are beholden to. One must explore experientially (Some time-honored methods include things like seated, formal meditation, hard physical labor, renunciation of social relationships and comfort items etc.)

When factoring in the 'tautology' you mention earlier, everything else (jibber-jab) is just mumbojumbo riding the winds of hot air.
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Been there, done that, saw it, said it, lived it, breathed it.

What are some things you like to do for fun? Someone recently gave me a few puffs of nicotine and I looked at how it affects the brain chemical universe.

The main three I saw was activating dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. This produces a state of euphoria by contrast to the prior base state. It is similar to the endorphins produced from running or other adenralizing activities.

By comparison I learned that I am probably very depressed in those systems of production.

There is no special reason I'm telling you this. We might as well socialize. What else is there to do?
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When you're done writing an obituary for the thread I could probably write a poem
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You are putting the cart before the donkey here...

The axioms, in the form of words and grammatical constructs, are merely representations, presented in an agreed-upon format, enabling an analysis via rational processes to take place, which can be shared with others who understand the format (language). Ideas aren't words, words describe ideas (this is a reality that MANY cannot truly navigate effectively).
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Okay... u2efine
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Regardless of how much logic. grammer or IQ points one has, using a linear construct (language) to investigate a non-linear phenomena (metaphysics/ethics/epistemology...reality) is a fool's errand. To embrace true philosophy one must transcend the linear causal factors that bind one and that words are beholden to. One must explore experientially (Some time-honored methods include things like seated, formal meditation, hard physical labor, renunciation of social relationships and comfort items etc.)

When factoring in the 'tautology' you mention earlier, everything else (jibber-jab) is just mumbojumbo riding the winds of hot air.
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Been there, done that, saw it, said it, lived it, breathed it.

What are some things you like to do for fun? Someone recently gave me a few puffs of nicotine and I looked at how it affects the brain chemical universe.

The main three I saw was activating dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. This produces a state of euphoria by contrast to the prior base state. It is similar to the endorphins produced from running or other adenralizing activities.

By comparison I learned that I am probably very depressed in those systems of production.

There is no special reason I'm telling you this. We might as well socialize. What else is there to do?
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Ganja for short-term, non-invasive substances. Psychedelics (obviously) for a bigger bang (haven't done any of those in many years). One must be careful with any substance- not merely for the potential bio-chemical responses and/or long-term physiology issues, but because it starts to act as a 'crutch' rather than a vehicle.

You say you have 'been there', but from my experience there is no actual destination when it comes to exploring the path toward understanding, when speaking from an implementation perspective. It's sorta like working-out or eating well- the gains are relativity short-lived unless one maintains the routine... it is an ongoing journey with no final destination, other than improving on prior gains.
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Okay... u2efine
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Regardless of how much logic. grammer or IQ points one has, using a linear construct (language) to investigate a non-linear phenomena (metaphysics/ethics/epistemology...reality) is a fool's errand. To embrace true philosophy one must transcend the linear causal factors that bind one and that words are beholden to. One must explore experientially (Some time-honored methods include things like seated, formal meditation, hard physical labor, renunciation of social relationships and comfort items etc.)

When factoring in the 'tautology' you mention earlier, everything else (jibber-jab) is just mumbojumbo riding the winds of hot air.
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Been there, done that, saw it, said it, lived it, breathed it.

What are some things you like to do for fun? Someone recently gave me a few puffs of nicotine and I looked at how it affects the brain chemical universe.

The main three I saw was activating dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. This produces a state of euphoria by contrast to the prior base state. It is similar to the endorphins produced from running or other adenralizing activities.

By comparison I learned that I am probably very depressed in those systems of production.

There is no special reason I'm telling you this. We might as well socialize. What else is there to do?
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Ganja for short-term, non-invasive substances. Psychedelics (obviously) for a bigger bang (haven't done any of those in many years). One must be careful with any substance- not merely for the potential bio-chemical responses and/or long-term physiology issues, but because it starts to act as a 'crutch' rather than a vehicle.

You say you have 'been there', but from my experience there is no actual destination when it comes to exploring the path toward understanding, when speaking from an implementation perspective. It's sorta like working-out or eating well- the gains are relativity short-lived unless one maintains the routine... it is an ongoing journey with no final destination, other than improving on prior gains.
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Been there

The idea is the journey - said that

You say I said something then said "but" as if you know what my experience has been and could deny it

I didn't say I have a problem, I didn't ask for help

I asked what you do for fun
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Regardless of how much logic. grammer or IQ points one has, using a linear construct (language) to investigate a non-linear phenomena (metaphysics/ethics/epistemology...reality) is a fool's errand. To embrace true philosophy one must transcend the linear causal factors that bind one and that words are beholden to. One must explore experientially (Some time-honored methods include things like seated, formal meditation, hard physical labor, renunciation of social relationships and comfort items etc.)

When factoring in the 'tautology' you mention earlier, everything else (jibber-jab) is just mumbojumbo riding the winds of hot air.
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Been there, done that, saw it, said it, lived it, breathed it.

What are some things you like to do for fun? Someone recently gave me a few puffs of nicotine and I looked at how it affects the brain chemical universe.

The main three I saw was activating dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. This produces a state of euphoria by contrast to the prior base state. It is similar to the endorphins produced from running or other adenralizing activities.

By comparison I learned that I am probably very depressed in those systems of production.

There is no special reason I'm telling you this. We might as well socialize. What else is there to do?
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Ganja for short-term, non-invasive substances. Psychedelics (obviously) for a bigger bang (haven't done any of those in many years). One must be careful with any substance- not merely for the potential bio-chemical responses and/or long-term physiology issues, but because it starts to act as a 'crutch' rather than a vehicle.

You say you have 'been there', but from my experience there is no actual destination when it comes to exploring the path toward understanding, when speaking from an implementation perspective. It's sorta like working-out or eating well- the gains are relativity short-lived unless one maintains the routine... it is an ongoing journey with no final destination, other than improving on prior gains.
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Been there

The idea is the journey - said that

You say I said something then said "but" as if you know what my experience has been and could deny it

I didn't say I have a problem, I didn't ask for help

I asked what you do for fun
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What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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Psychotically a breakdown in a rigid backdrop of the one, awareness colored in succession to a knowing not undone, I asked you for the deep end, how does it feel? I want to run. I dove too soon for pearls of wisdom much too young. I found me on the surface of the life, my only one.
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Been there, done that, saw it, said it, lived it, breathed it.

What are some things you like to do for fun? Someone recently gave me a few puffs of nicotine and I looked at how it affects the brain chemical universe.

The main three I saw was activating dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. This produces a state of euphoria by contrast to the prior base state. It is similar to the endorphins produced from running or other adenralizing activities.

By comparison I learned that I am probably very depressed in those systems of production.

There is no special reason I'm telling you this. We might as well socialize. What else is there to do?
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Ganja for short-term, non-invasive substances. Psychedelics (obviously) for a bigger bang (haven't done any of those in many years). One must be careful with any substance- not merely for the potential bio-chemical responses and/or long-term physiology issues, but because it starts to act as a 'crutch' rather than a vehicle.

You say you have 'been there', but from my experience there is no actual destination when it comes to exploring the path toward understanding, when speaking from an implementation perspective. It's sorta like working-out or eating well- the gains are relativity short-lived unless one maintains the routine... it is an ongoing journey with no final destination, other than improving on prior gains.
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Been there

The idea is the journey - said that

You say I said something then said "but" as if you know what my experience has been and could deny it

I didn't say I have a problem, I didn't ask for help

I asked what you do for fun
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What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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Emotional Awareness and the mood of the day, self medicating happenstance and solidarity. How ever will a person live and breathe the precious lie? The lie that is a moment in between the coarse full breathing, blink, and once again is seen the infinite delirium in the minds of the chaotic. There is no time for this. It isn't worth a mention. It is only something seen for what it's worth, a glimpse. Silence. We hold the heavens. Our gods stand on our shoulders, titans that we are. We don't care. It's over and done with since yestercentury. Now, crack these brittle bones to cut the flow of your demise.
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"Philosophy is my Ganja. I get high on this, man." (Me, paraphrased)

I won't be sad.
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Ganja for short-term, non-invasive substances. Psychedelics (obviously) for a bigger bang (haven't done any of those in many years). One must be careful with any substance- not merely for the potential bio-chemical responses and/or long-term physiology issues, but because it starts to act as a 'crutch' rather than a vehicle.

You say you have 'been there', but from my experience there is no actual destination when it comes to exploring the path toward understanding, when speaking from an implementation perspective. It's sorta like working-out or eating well- the gains are relativity short-lived unless one maintains the routine... it is an ongoing journey with no final destination, other than improving on prior gains.
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Been there

The idea is the journey - said that

You say I said something then said "but" as if you know what my experience has been and could deny it

I didn't say I have a problem, I didn't ask for help

I asked what you do for fun
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What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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"Philosophy is my Ganja. I get high on this, man." (Me, paraphrased)

I won't be sad.
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Philosophy is the highest pleasure (according to many old smart guys from the Mediterranean).

Just remember, like ganja, philosophy is a means to an end and not the end in itself.
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Been there

The idea is the journey - said that

You say I said something then said "but" as if you know what my experience has been and could deny it

I didn't say I have a problem, I didn't ask for help

I asked what you do for fun
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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When you do something for fun you will always be better at it than anyone else who does it for any other reason.

That's some practical life advice from someone who doesn't feel like a submissive sissy bitch. Such things do not live in me, nor around me. There is no sissy bitch with which to interact.

Though I have many sissy bitch neighbors and they come to socialize with me sometimes and I don't mind them. I like the feminine. I like it being there, I like seeing it, enjoying it, cherishing it.

I love girls and stuff, as a guy it's sort of natural.

Anyway, if you hate women I don't like you but I can understand it's probably because you hate your mom, who is essentially you and yet greater than you.

That is how it goes for narcissism. They usually hate their moms. Not their dads. It's common.
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"Philosophy is my Ganja. I get high on this, man." (Me, paraphrased)

I won't be sad.
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Philosophy is the highest pleasure (according to many old smart guys from the Mediterranean).

Just remember, like ganja, philosophy is a means to an end and not the end in itself.
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Now you've contradicted yourself just to feel right.

If the journey is what it's all about, it cannot be what you just said.

It can be both about the journey and the destination, but not "about the destination not the journey".

You probably knew that but got flustered.
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What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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When you do something for fun you will always be better at it than anyone else who does it for any other reason.

That's some practical life advice from someone who doesn't feel like a submissive sissy bitch. Such things do not live in me, nor around me. There is no sissy bitch with which to interact.

Though I have many sissy bitch neighbors and they come to socialize with me sometimes and I don't mind them. I like the feminine. I like it being there, I like seeing it, enjoying it, cherishing it.

I love girls and stuff, as a guy it's sort of natural.

Anyway, if you hate women I don't like you but I can understand it's probably because you hate your mom, who is essentially you and yet greater than you.

That is how it goes for narcissism. They usually hate their moms. Not their dads. It's common.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


* Spoken like someone with very little life experience (my guess is you have yet to see 30?). It is a well known effect that individuals cannot see or effectively analyse their own situation, as they lack the required perspective/distance to view it from with clarity... I would posit that the sissy bitch, which you so readily claim does not exist inside of you, is in fact firmly in control of the entire works!

Does this make you feel angry, frustrated or even slightly amused? Then she (sissy-bitch) IS calling the shots!

ohyeah
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"Philosophy is my Ganja. I get high on this, man." (Me, paraphrased)

I won't be sad.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Philosophy is the highest pleasure (according to many old smart guys from the Mediterranean).

Just remember, like ganja, philosophy is a means to an end and not the end in itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69704841


Now you've contradicted yourself just to feel right.

If the journey is what it's all about, it cannot be what you just said.

It can be both about the journey and the destination, but not "about the destination not the journey".

You probably knew that but got flustered.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Use logic here...

Philosophy AND ganja are not the ends... they are means, thus making them part of the journey- the 'end' is a term which represents the goal, nothing more- the end here is embracing the mean for what it is... as I posted.

coffee4
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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When you do something for fun you will always be better at it than anyone else who does it for any other reason.

That's some practical life advice from someone who doesn't feel like a submissive sissy bitch. Such things do not live in me, nor around me. There is no sissy bitch with which to interact.

Though I have many sissy bitch neighbors and they come to socialize with me sometimes and I don't mind them. I like the feminine. I like it being there, I like seeing it, enjoying it, cherishing it.

I love girls and stuff, as a guy it's sort of natural.

Anyway, if you hate women I don't like you but I can understand it's probably because you hate your mom, who is essentially you and yet greater than you.

That is how it goes for narcissism. They usually hate their moms. Not their dads. It's common.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


* Spoken like someone with very little life experience (my guess is you have yet to see 30?). It is a well known effect that individuals cannot see or effectively analyse their own situation, as they lack the required perspective/distance to view it from with clarity... I would posit that the sissy bitch, which you so readily claim does not exist inside of you, is in fact firmly in control of the entire works!

Does this make you feel angry, frustrated or even slightly amused? Then she (sissy-bitch) IS calling the shots!

ohyeah
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Yet age and life experience are not the same :)

You should socialize more. You might find yourself surprised by how much more there is to learn and understand.

I didn't feel any such things you wrote as guesses. I wonder what benefit you're getting from posting here, but that's about it.

Is there some way I could help you?
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"Philosophy is my Ganja. I get high on this, man." (Me, paraphrased)

I won't be sad.
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Philosophy is the highest pleasure (according to many old smart guys from the Mediterranean).

Just remember, like ganja, philosophy is a means to an end and not the end in itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69704841


Now you've contradicted yourself just to feel right.

If the journey is what it's all about, it cannot be what you just said.

It can be both about the journey and the destination, but not "about the destination not the journey".

You probably knew that but got flustered.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Use logic here...

Philosophy AND ganja are not the ends... they are means, thus making them part of the journey- the 'end' is a term which represents the goal, nothing more- the end here is embracing the mean for what it is... as I posted.

coffee4
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The idea is the journey. The journey implies the destination. The journey with no destination is not a journey. The journey with no destination is a wandering.

Not all who wander are lost? Not all who wonder are lost? Not all who wander, lust?

Quick question, how much of the thread did you read? It will help me understand it you answer honestly.
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What, so you are the only one who gets to ramble opinion unsolicited?

Fun, what's that? Fun is for children and sissy bitches.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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When you do something for fun you will always be better at it than anyone else who does it for any other reason.

That's some practical life advice from someone who doesn't feel like a submissive sissy bitch. Such things do not live in me, nor around me. There is no sissy bitch with which to interact.

Though I have many sissy bitch neighbors and they come to socialize with me sometimes and I don't mind them. I like the feminine. I like it being there, I like seeing it, enjoying it, cherishing it.

I love girls and stuff, as a guy it's sort of natural.

Anyway, if you hate women I don't like you but I can understand it's probably because you hate your mom, who is essentially you and yet greater than you.

That is how it goes for narcissism. They usually hate their moms. Not their dads. It's common.
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Now see, HERE^ is a textbook example of an Ad Hominem attack, the lowest form of logical fallacy... and hallmark/signature of the sissy bitch (which has nothing to do with the 'feminine' BTW). I'm really a bit surprised you went there, as you appear to have a solid understanding of the philosophical process.

Here, might wanna catch-up on the basics before attempting such a deep-dive?

"(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. "
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Your dedication to keeping this thread alive is appreciated. I recommend posting whatever you like, as I've said. Though to be sure, quoting me and attempting to contradict me for whatever reason suits your buttons will probably result in me replying, so do be well not to get obsessed with me talking to your absence of parental love. I will neither become your momma or your dadda, nor will I hurt them for you, no matter how much you ask.
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You're rambling aren't you? I guess you're feeling a sissy bitch inside you.
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No, that would be if I was having (or trying to have) fun... try to keep up (which I'm not, gut-checking fools is a full-time gig, and it's hard work most of the time).

And besides, I have long since kicked the sissy-bitch inside of me into submission-
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When you do something for fun you will always be better at it than anyone else who does it for any other reason.

That's some practical life advice from someone who doesn't feel like a submissive sissy bitch. Such things do not live in me, nor around me. There is no sissy bitch with which to interact.

Though I have many sissy bitch neighbors and they come to socialize with me sometimes and I don't mind them. I like the feminine. I like it being there, I like seeing it, enjoying it, cherishing it.

I love girls and stuff, as a guy it's sort of natural.

Anyway, if you hate women I don't like you but I can understand it's probably because you hate your mom, who is essentially you and yet greater than you.

That is how it goes for narcissism. They usually hate their moms. Not their dads. It's common.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Now see, HERE^ is a textbook example of an Ad Hominem attack, the lowest form of logical fallacy... and hallmark/signature of the sissy bitch (which has nothing to do with the 'feminine' BTW). I'm really a bit surprised you went there, as you appear to have a solid understanding of the philosophical process.

Here, might wanna catch-up on the basics before attempting such a deep-dive?

"(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. "
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There was no ad hominem. The statement began with If. That's simply how my logic operates.

You gave no argument but only stated things to me that I had already said, while pretending to contradict me.

And this is not a debate thread. Debates are not welcome because I find them useless. They're too emotional.
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do, or do not.. there is no try
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Philosophy is the highest pleasure (according to many old smart guys from the Mediterranean).

Just remember, like ganja, philosophy is a means to an end and not the end in itself.
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Now you've contradicted yourself just to feel right.

If the journey is what it's all about, it cannot be what you just said.

It can be both about the journey and the destination, but not "about the destination not the journey".

You probably knew that but got flustered.
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Use logic here...

Philosophy AND ganja are not the ends... they are means, thus making them part of the journey- the 'end' is a term which represents the goal, nothing more- the end here is embracing the mean for what it is... as I posted.

coffee4
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The idea is the journey. The journey implies the destination. The journey with no destination is not a journey. The journey with no destination is a wandering.

Not all who wander are lost? Not all who wonder are lost? Not all who wander, lust?

Quick question, how much of the thread did you read? It will help me understand it you answer honestly.
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YOU said 'journey', I wrote 'means' and then fit my argument into your terminology to make it easier for you to digest.

Also, just for clarity:

Definition of journey-
chiefly dialectal : a day's travel

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and furthermore...


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My lunch break is over. Back to work

I guess the thread lives on ~~~
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Now you've contradicted yourself just to feel right.

If the journey is what it's all about, it cannot be what you just said.

It can be both about the journey and the destination, but not "about the destination not the journey".

You probably knew that but got flustered.
 Quoting: Lookless Sight, Soonless Light


Use logic here...

Philosophy AND ganja are not the ends... they are means, thus making them part of the journey- the 'end' is a term which represents the goal, nothing more- the end here is embracing the mean for what it is... as I posted.

coffee4
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The idea is the journey. The journey implies the destination. The journey with no destination is not a journey. The journey with no destination is a wandering.

Not all who wander are lost? Not all who wonder are lost? Not all who wander, lust?

Quick question, how much of the thread did you read? It will help me understand it you answer honestly.
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YOU said 'journey', I wrote 'means' and then fit my argument into your terminology to make it easier for you to digest.

Also, just for clarity:

Definition of journey-
chiefly dialectal : a day's travel

[link to www.txstate.edu (secure)]

and furthermore...

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Weren't you the one who said not to get caught in the words and understand the ideas instead, and that so few can navigate that level of thinking (or something like that? I don't recall your exact phrasing)

You don't know how to do it?





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