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When TPTB Start Pushing You To Revere and Obey the Pope of Rome Be Wary

 
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The forty and two months of the beast out of the sea (of peoples) making war with the saints and overcoming them took place during the 1260 year reign of the beast Popes of Rome from 538 AD to 1798 AD. This is a fact and is prophesied in Revelation 13:7

After that period, a second beast rises from the earth, prophesied in Revelation 13:11.

At some point after 1798 this earth beast rises and causes the whole world to worship the first beast, which came out of the sea (of peoples) whose deadly wound was healed.

Quick history Lesson: Pagan Rome was denounced by Constantine the Great in the 4th century AD, and that was the deadly head wound that was healed in the 6 century AD when the Pope was declared the Bishop of Rome. In 800 AD, Charlemagne expanded Papal powers and the Roman Empire officially took the title of the Holy Roman Empire.

Again, this Holy Roman Empire, under the Popes' temporal authority, martyred the saints of God for 1260 years until 1798 when the Pope at that time (Pius VI) lost temporal power and was forced by the French to leave Rome.

The deposal of the Pope was prophesied in Revelation 16:10, signifying the fifth vial of God's wrath being poured out on the seat of the beast (i.e. Popes of the Holy Roman Empire).

The sixth vial of God's wrath, or the drying up of the Euphrates, represents the fall of the Ottoman Empire, which took place in 1922. That's how close we are to the end and the return of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Back to the earth beast, or the Superior J3sU1T General - he will cause the whole world to revere and obey the Pope, and all who refuse will be killed.

This will, no doubt, happen after the planned “great reset” occurs, the financial and economic demolition of all the countries of the world (every island fled away and the mountains were not found), which we are witnessing before our very eyes.

Most people today believe the lie that the mark of the beast is some RFID chip, or clot-shot-death vaccine, so they won’t hesitate to revere (mark on the head) and obey (mark on the hand) the Pope who they think is harmless, though his seat and previous authority presided over the slaughter of millions of Christians for that 1260 year period that ended in 1798.

Those of us who refuse to revere and obey the Pope or venerate the false religion of idols and sacraments will either be killed or will have to go into hiding somewhere.

The people who are deceived, especially those who believe everything the talking heads on TV say, will gladly revere and obey the Pope and receive whatever mechanism that will be needed for buying and selling so that they can survive.

The mark of the beast is spiritual, but there will be a system in place for buying and selling that only worshippers of the beast will have access to.

When Christ returns, true Christians who are alive and remaining (surviving), will rise to meet the Lord in the air with all resurrected saints.

If you want more truth, have a look at this guy's channel. Lots of excellent information found there:


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shitty semite scripts suck
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Celebrate easter and christmas? You already revere and obey the pope.

Keep sunday instead of the 7th day sabbath? You already revere and obey the pope.

Have a trinity of gods instead of the only true God of the Bible that Jesus spoke of? You already revere and obey the pope.
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Celebrate easter and christmas? You already revere and obey the pope.

Keep sunday instead of the 7th day sabbath? You already revere and obey the pope.

Have a trinity of gods instead of the only true God of the Bible that Jesus spoke of? You already revere and obey the pope.
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Yeah, many Christians don't realize that no matter what their denomination (Baptist, Pentecostal, etc), they partake in many of the pagan Roman customs and the sacraments of the RCC, like water baptism and eating crackers and drinking grape juice or they celebrate the ancient Roman festivals/Gods in their new form (e.g. The Christ Mass and Ishtar). Everybody is [email protected] and they don't even know it.

Regarding the sabbath, neither Saturday nor Sunday is the sabbath. Today is the sabbath, and every day is the sabbath for those who believe in Christ, as Hebrews 4 teaches. Christians enter into the true "rest" when they believe in Jesus Christ.

Seventh Day Adventists, unfortunately, fall prey to the works doctrine of obeying a Saturday sabbath, and that without even actually fulfilling true sabbath requirements.

They travel, they cook, they go hiking, etc... Seventh Day Adventists, too, eat crackers and drink grape juice, just like [email protected] and Baptists, as a ritual devoid of the true meaning of Christ's Words. The only difference is that [email protected] think the crackers and juice actually turn into the literal body and blood of Jesus.

The trinity doctrine is not a [email protected] one. It's a scriptural doctrine. ONE true God manifested in three forms. It's no different than the earth's Sun, as an analogy. The Sun has three main attributes, all distinct in their nature, yet all together they make ONE SUN.

Mass of Sun = God in all His glory
Light from Sun = Jesus (The light from the Sun is visible daily)
Heat from Sun = Holy Spirit (Man can feel the heat from the Sun daily)

You cannot separate the deity of God from His very Word. God's Word is deity because it comes directly from God Himself. If God's very Word is deity, then we know that Jesus Christ is the LIVING WORD of God, who is deity.

The Pharisees knew what Jesus meant when He said, "Before Abraham was, I Am...," which is why they picked up stones to kill him. He was calling Himself God in the flesh, just as His name Emmanuel (Matthew 1:23) means - "God with us"

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Just replace "the Word" with Jesus and you'll have a better understanding of the deity of Jesus Christ.
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Catholics don't have to revere the pope or obey his declarations unless he declares them to be "ex cathedra". The only time that has ever happened was in 1950.
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Just replace "the Word" with Jesus and you'll have a better understanding of the deity of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


Other then being dead wrong about the sabbath issue, you have an even bigger one. The wrong god.

Jesus told us who the "only" true God is. We all know what the word "only" means right? It means only.

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Jesus has a God. His Father. Which God did Jesus tell us to have?

"I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."


Regarding John 1:1, the issue here is the Greek. Go read it real quick in the Greek. You will notice both uses of the word "God" are different words. Not the same. For a reason.

The verse is actually saying, "the word was with God, and the word "was like" God.

Why like God? Because He is Gods literal Son before creation.

That is literally what Jesus' angelic name means.

One who is like God - Mikha'el
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Just replace "the Word" with Jesus and you'll have a better understanding of the deity of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


Other then being dead wrong about the sabbath issue, you have an even bigger one. The wrong god.

Jesus told us who the "only" true God is. We all know what the word "only" means right? It means only.

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Jesus has a God. His Father. Which God did Jesus tell us to have?

"I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."


Regarding John 1:1, the issue here is the Greek. Go read it real quick in the Greek. You will notice both uses of the word "God" are different words. Not the same. For a reason.

The verse is actually saying, "the word was with God, and the word "was like" God.

Why like God? Because He is Gods literal Son before creation.

That is literally what Jesus' angelic name means.

One who is like God - Mikha'el
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936


Not going to argue with you. If you deny the deity of Christ, so be it. I just believe you're wrong, as you believe I am. And if you think worshipping God on Saturday gives you brownie points with Him, again, so be it. I just think you've been misled.

Just be wary when they start pushing people to revere and obey the Pope.
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At this point

Ot takes more faith to not believe in Jesus

Than it does to believe
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Just replace "the Word" with Jesus and you'll have a better understanding of the deity of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


Other then being dead wrong about the sabbath issue, you have an even bigger one. The wrong god.

Jesus told us who the "only" true God is. We all know what the word "only" means right? It means only.

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Jesus has a God. His Father. Which God did Jesus tell us to have?

"I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."


Regarding John 1:1, the issue here is the Greek. Go read it real quick in the Greek. You will notice both uses of the word "God" are different words. Not the same. For a reason.

The verse is actually saying, "the word was with God, and the word "was like" God.

Why like God? Because He is Gods literal Son before creation.

That is literally what Jesus' angelic name means.

One who is like God - Mikha'el
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936


Not going to argue with you. If you deny the deity of Christ, so be it. I just believe you're wrong, as you believe I am. And if you think worshipping God on Saturday gives you brownie points with Him, again, so be it. I just think you've been misled.

Just be wary when they start pushing people to revere and obey the Pope.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


I in no way deny the deity of Gods Son. Nothing I said could possibly have lead you to that.

God is a deity. Therefore His Son (as nature teaches us) is also a deity. The only direct offspring of God in all of the universe.

Father (the only true God) and the Son (the only literal "divine") Son of God brought forth before creation.

Jesus (as a "God" class being) has all the attributes of His Father. His wisdom, power, love etc.

But there is one thing He does not have. "Authority" over His Father. Yet His Father has authority over Him.

Do you see? Anti-trinitarians are not claiming Jesus is not a God like being. (that is literally a papal lie you are repeating mate against us)

The claim is He is not the same entity as His Father. And there is no "3rd" being in the group.

The Spirit is the Father. "God is a spirit" - His Son.

The Father gave His Spirit to His Son. His Son gives "His Fathers" Spirit to us.

1 God. 1 Son. Individuals.

Not 3 co-existent unbiblical traditions of babylon masquerading as the God of the bible.

Do you see?
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I in no way deny the deity of Gods Son. Nothing I said could possibly have lead you to that.



God is a deity. Therefore His Son (as nature teaches us) is also a deity. The only direct offspring of God in all of the universe.



Father (the only true God) and the Son (the only literal "divine") Son of God brought forth before creation.



Jesus (as a "God" class being) has all the attributes of His Father. His wisdom, power, love etc.



But there is one thing He does not have. "Authority" over His Father. Yet His Father has authority over Him.



Do you see? Anti-trinitarians are not claiming Jesus is not a God like being. (that is literally a papal lie you are repeating mate against us)



The claim is He is not the same entity as His Father. And there is no "3rd" being in the group.



The Spirit is the Father. "God is a spirit" - His Son.



The Father gave His Spirit to His Son. His Son gives "His Fathers" Spirit to us.



1 God. 1 Son. Individuals.



Not 3 co-existent unbiblical traditions of babylon masquerading as the God of the bible.



Do you see?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936




The Trinitarian doctrine does not claim three Gods, only One God manifested in three forms or entities. And each has their role. We agree with the scriptures that God the Father is above God the Son, but they are still ONE.



Jesus Himself says "I and my Father are one."



1 John 5:7 says:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



In the book of H3B 1:8-9 we see how God The Father views God The Son.



"But unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."



In the book of Acts, Peter says that God raised Jesus from the dead. Acts 3:15 and Acts 4:10



Should we agree with Peter? Yes, absolutely, God raised Jesus from the dead.



In the book of John, Jesus says that He will raise Himself from the dead.



John 2:19-22

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Then said the J....s, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

But he spake of the temple of his body.

When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.



Should we agree with Jesus our Lord that He raised Himself from the dead? Yes, absolutely.



Is there a contradiction here? From your perspective there would be since you deny that Jesus is God the Son.



However, the scriptures all agree that God the Father and God the Son are ONE.



I love God and Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior and I would never for any reason twist His Word. If the above interpretation of the scriptures is incorrect, I pray that He corrects me.



I honestly don't see how there could be any confusion on the matter though.
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So when nefarious people attempt to get other people to follow the Semites script, we’re all supposed to think it’s a sign from God?
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The forty and two months of the beast out of the sea (of peoples) making war with the saints and overcoming them took place during the 1260 year reign of the beast Popes of Rome from 538 AD to 1798 AD. This is a fact and is prophesied in Revelation 13:7

After that period, a second beast rises from the earth, prophesied in Revelation 13:11.

At some point after 1798 this earth beast rises and causes the whole world to worship the first beast, which came out of the sea (of peoples) whose deadly wound was healed.

Quick history Lesson: Pagan Rome was denounced by Constantine the Great in the 4th century AD, and that was the deadly head wound that was healed in the 6 century AD when the Pope was declared the Bishop of Rome. In 800 AD, Charlemagne expanded Papal powers and the Roman Empire officially took the title of the Holy Roman Empire.

Again, this Holy Roman Empire, under the Popes' temporal authority, martyred the saints of God for 1260 years until 1798 when the Pope at that time (Pius VI) lost temporal power and was forced by the French to leave Rome.

The deposal of the Pope was prophesied in Revelation 16:10, signifying the fifth vial of God's wrath being poured out on the seat of the beast (i.e. Popes of the Holy Roman Empire).

The sixth vial of God's wrath, or the drying up of the Euphrates, represents the fall of the Ottoman Empire, which took place in 1922. That's how close we are to the end and the return of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Back to the earth beast, or the Superior J3sU1T General - he will cause the whole world to revere and obey the Pope, and all who refuse will be killed.

This will, no doubt, happen after the planned “great reset” occurs, the financial and economic demolition of all the countries of the world (every island fled away and the mountains were not found), which we are witnessing before our very eyes.

Most people today believe the lie that the mark of the beast is some RFID chip, or clot-shot-death vaccine, so they won’t hesitate to revere (mark on the head) and obey (mark on the hand) the Pope who they think is harmless, though his seat and previous authority presided over the slaughter of millions of Christians for that 1260 year period that ended in 1798.

Those of us who refuse to revere and obey the Pope or venerate the false religion of idols and sacraments will either be killed or will have to go into hiding somewhere.

The people who are deceived, especially those who believe everything the talking heads on TV say, will gladly revere and obey the Pope and receive whatever mechanism that will be needed for buying and selling so that they can survive.

The mark of the beast is spiritual, but there will be a system in place for buying and selling that only worshippers of the beast will have access to.

When Christ returns, true Christians who are alive and remaining (surviving), will rise to meet the Lord in the air with all resurrected saints.

If you want more truth, have a look at this guy's channel. Lots of excellent information found there:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld



Not my circus. Not my religion.
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As long as the church publicly stands against abortion and lgbt the tptb won’t support him….
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I in no way deny the deity of Gods Son. Nothing I said could possibly have lead you to that.



God is a deity. Therefore His Son (as nature teaches us) is also a deity. The only direct offspring of God in all of the universe.



Father (the only true God) and the Son (the only literal "divine") Son of God brought forth before creation.



Jesus (as a "God" class being) has all the attributes of His Father. His wisdom, power, love etc.



But there is one thing He does not have. "Authority" over His Father. Yet His Father has authority over Him.



Do you see? Anti-trinitarians are not claiming Jesus is not a God like being. (that is literally a papal lie you are repeating mate against us)



The claim is He is not the same entity as His Father. And there is no "3rd" being in the group.



The Spirit is the Father. "God is a spirit" - His Son.



The Father gave His Spirit to His Son. His Son gives "His Fathers" Spirit to us.



1 God. 1 Son. Individuals.



Not 3 co-existent unbiblical traditions of babylon masquerading as the God of the bible.



Do you see?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936




The Trinitarian doctrine does not claim three Gods, only One God manifested in three forms or entities. And each has their role. We agree with the scriptures that God the Father is above God the Son, but they are still ONE.



Jesus Himself says "I and my Father are one."



1 John 5:7 says:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



In the book of H3B 1:8-9 we see how God The Father views God The Son.



"But unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."



In the book of Acts, Peter says that God raised Jesus from the dead. Acts 3:15 and Acts 4:10



Should we agree with Peter? Yes, absolutely, God raised Jesus from the dead.



In the book of John, Jesus says that He will raise Himself from the dead.



John 2:19-22

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Then said the J....s, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

But he spake of the temple of his body.

When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.



Should we agree with Jesus our Lord that He raised Himself from the dead? Yes, absolutely.



Is there a contradiction here? From your perspective there would be since you deny that Jesus is God the Son.



However, the scriptures all agree that God the Father and God the Son are ONE.



I love God and Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior and I would never for any reason twist His Word. If the above interpretation of the scriptures is incorrect, I pray that He corrects me.



I honestly don't see how there could be any confusion on the matter though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83726576


I understand your position 100%. I held it myself for 30 years.

Allow me a question.

Do you believe the bible is teaching that Jesus, is Gods literal "Son", which means... the Father "birthed" Him out from Himself before our creation happened, or do you believe the bible is teaching Gods "Son", always existed, was never a "literal" Son that the Father brought forth, meaning the Son/Father dynamic that they both speak of in scripture often, is all a word/role play?
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I in no way deny the deity of Gods Son. Nothing I said could possibly have lead you to that.



God is a deity. Therefore His Son (as nature teaches us) is also a deity. The only direct offspring of God in all of the universe.



Father (the only true God) and the Son (the only literal "divine") Son of God brought forth before creation.



Jesus (as a "God" class being) has all the attributes of His Father. His wisdom, power, love etc.



But there is one thing He does not have. "Authority" over His Father. Yet His Father has authority over Him.



Do you see? Anti-trinitarians are not claiming Jesus is not a God like being. (that is literally a papal lie you are repeating mate against us)



The claim is He is not the same entity as His Father. And there is no "3rd" being in the group.



The Spirit is the Father. "God is a spirit" - His Son.



The Father gave His Spirit to His Son. His Son gives "His Fathers" Spirit to us.



1 God. 1 Son. Individuals.



Not 3 co-existent unbiblical traditions of babylon masquerading as the God of the bible.



Do you see?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936




The Trinitarian doctrine does not claim three Gods, only One God manifested in three forms or entities. And each has their role. We agree with the scriptures that God the Father is above God the Son, but they are still ONE.



Jesus Himself says "I and my Father are one."



1 John 5:7 says:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



In the book of H3B 1:8-9 we see how God The Father views God The Son.



"But unto the Son he (God) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."



In the book of Acts, Peter says that God raised Jesus from the dead. Acts 3:15 and Acts 4:10



Should we agree with Peter? Yes, absolutely, God raised Jesus from the dead.



In the book of John, Jesus says that He will raise Himself from the dead.



John 2:19-22

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Then said the J....s, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

But he spake of the temple of his body.

When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.



Should we agree with Jesus our Lord that He raised Himself from the dead? Yes, absolutely.



Is there a contradiction here? From your perspective there would be since you deny that Jesus is God the Son.



However, the scriptures all agree that God the Father and God the Son are ONE.



I love God and Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior and I would never for any reason twist His Word. If the above interpretation of the scriptures is incorrect, I pray that He corrects me.



I honestly don't see how there could be any confusion on the matter though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83726576


I understand your position 100%. I held it myself for 30 years.

Allow me a question.

Do you believe the bible is teaching that Jesus, is Gods literal "Son", which means... the Father "birthed" Him out from Himself before our creation happened, or do you believe the bible is teaching Gods "Son", always existed, was never a "literal" Son that the Father brought forth, meaning the Son/Father dynamic that they both speak of in scripture often, is all a word/role play?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70851936


God, His Word (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit exist in eternity.

When God spoke the world into existence, those very words out of God the Father were just as alive as He is because those living words ARE literally Jesus Christ, the living Word of God.

God was never alone in eternity without his Word, Jesus.

Are you going to tell me that Mary is the mother of God next?
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Are you going to tell me that Mary is the mother of God next?
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The fact you even said that, shows whos words you allow to come out from you. Who it is you speak for.

Good bye.





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