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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83732242 Germany 06/22/2022 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? Actual science. Treatment of actual illness and injuries. Health - the state of being free from illness or injury. More Amenable to pseudoscience. A bit like cloud-seeding, those who wish to have a despotic, state, health care system can use the word health care to justify all sorts of intrusions, abuses, and violations of constitutional law, in the name of keeping things in a state of being free from illness and injury, and prescribe all sorts of "solutions" to stave off perceived threats to the collective health for threats real, perceived, or entirely imaginary. Using the term health is a lot more compatible with the totalitarianism that they are seeking to impose on society. Medical is more science oriented and requires there to be an actual illness or injury in order for a medical system to react. Health is more proactive, and can be faked, hyped, and propagandized to make citizens believe that what is being done is to protect a state of health already in existence, whether that prescribed methods actually do anything to stave off illness or injury or not. It is a lot easier to pull off something like the covid-19 mother of all psyops when people's perspectives have been shaped around the concept of health care, as opposed to medical care. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83732242 Germany 06/22/2022 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? "A bipartisan panel of health experts calls on Tuesday for an overhaul of the American public health system that would greatly expand the role of the federal government, giving Washington the authority to set minimum health standards and coordinate a patchwork of nearly 3,000 state, local and tribal agencies. The recommendations flow from what the panel, the Commonwealth Fund Commission on a National Public Health System, described as the inadequacies and inequities of the United States’ response to the coronavirus pandemic, which has killed more than one million Americans." [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 82977305 United States 06/22/2022 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? Medical - relating to the science of medicine, or to the treatment of illness and injuries[b/] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83732242 Actual science. Treatment of actual illness and injuries. Health - the state of being free from illness or injury. More Amenable to pseudoscience. A bit like cloud-seeding, those who wish to have a despotic, state, health care system can use the word health care to justify all sorts of intrusions, abuses, and violations of constitutional law, in the name of keeping things in a state of being free from illness and injury, and prescribe all sorts of "solutions" to stave off perceived threats to the collective health for threats real, perceived, or entirely imaginary. Using the term health is a lot more compatible with the totalitarianism that they are seeking to impose on society. Medical is more science oriented and requires there to be an actual illness or injury in order for a medical system to react. Health is more proactive, and can be faked, hyped, and propagandized to make citizens believe that what is being done is to protect a state of health already in existence, whether that prescribed methods actually do anything to stave off illness or injury or not. It is a lot easier to pull off something like the covid-19 mother of all psyops when people's perspectives have been shaped around the concept of health care, as opposed to medical care. Your ideas are in line with my idea that a big reason for the switch is psychological, the medical industry could do all kinds of nefarious things, but if they call it health, who could object? "You're not against health are you? What kind of a person is against health?" It's a form of mind control. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83732242 Germany 06/22/2022 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? Medical - relating to the science of medicine, or to the treatment of illness and injuries[b/] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83732242 Actual science. Treatment of actual illness and injuries. Health - the state of being free from illness or injury. More Amenable to pseudoscience. A bit like cloud-seeding, those who wish to have a despotic, state, health care system can use the word health care to justify all sorts of intrusions, abuses, and violations of constitutional law, in the name of keeping things in a state of being free from illness and injury, and prescribe all sorts of "solutions" to stave off perceived threats to the collective health for threats real, perceived, or entirely imaginary. Using the term health is a lot more compatible with the totalitarianism that they are seeking to impose on society. Medical is more science oriented and requires there to be an actual illness or injury in order for a medical system to react. Health is more proactive, and can be faked, hyped, and propagandized to make citizens believe that what is being done is to protect a state of health already in existence, whether that prescribed methods actually do anything to stave off illness or injury or not. It is a lot easier to pull off something like the covid-19 mother of all psyops when people's perspectives have been shaped around the concept of health care, as opposed to medical care. Your ideas are in line with my idea that a big reason for the switch is psychological, the medical industry could do all kinds of nefarious things, but if they call it health, who could object? "You're not against health are you? What kind of a person is against health?" It's a form of mind control. It's ironic that they had their state propagandists who were out there screeching "Trust the Science" as they were using the concept of collective health to unilaterally throw out the scientific method, scientific debate, individualized medical treatments, and public comment regarding the crimes that they were in the process of committing all in the name of "health." These are not the symptoms of a healthy society, and they are the cause. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81081937 United States 06/22/2022 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? About 10 years ago while working at Siemens, they had a big promotion in the workplace. They manufacture medical diagnostic equipment through this Siemens office. So they employ many techs and engineers. But their promotion was to change their titles to “Healthineers”. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] It was a new word to me and I couldn’t help noticing it. |
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(OP) User ID: 82977305 United States 06/22/2022 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? Everyone fell in line with the new word usage, everyone says "healthcare" now, which is an entirely made up word with an unclear definition, because what does it mean? Does healthcare mean medical care, or does it mean medical insurance? They got it so "paying your insurance bill" is the same thing as "taking care of your health" And then to me, if people don't question that, but just have this big globby undefined word-concept in their head, that's actually costing them a LOT of money, and in the case of older people, a LOT more than mere money, to me, that's the most disturbing part, that people don't question things or stop two seconds to step back and think about what's being done to them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77898421 United States 06/22/2022 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? The use of the word "health" when the speaker means "medical" bothers me for a lot of reasons. Quoting: Vision Thing But I suddenly wondered if maybe there is a hidden legal reason for the universal change in the meaning and use of the words? Maybe there are legal restrictions on the practice of medicine, and medicine is defined in legal statutes and case law. Maybe the right to medical privacy is always referred to that way, and a "right to health privacy" doesn't exist? Does anyone here work in the medical field, and were you ever told to stop saying you work in the medical industry as a medical worker, but to only say you are a "healthcare worker" in the "healthcare industry"? Or is anyone here in journalism, are there mainstream journalism guidelines and standards that frown on the use of "medical" as a term for the medical industry, and insist that "health" and "healthcare" are the proper terms now? "Health" insinuates the goal is patient outcome. Started getting used when patients started thinking the medical industry was nothing but a scam to make money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83739154 United States 06/23/2022 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Was there a legal reason why the switch was made to saying "health" and "healthcare" instead of "medical" ? The thing that is the most disturbing about the switch from saying "medical" to saying "health" is that everyone just automatically did it. Quoting: Vision Thing Everyone fell in line with the new word usage, everyone says "healthcare" now, which is an entirely made up word with an unclear definition, because what does it mean? Does healthcare mean medical care, or does it mean medical insurance? They got it so "paying your insurance bill" is the same thing as "taking care of your health" And then to me, if people don't question that, but just have this big globby undefined word-concept in their head, that's actually costing them a LOT of money, and in the case of older people, a LOT more than mere money, to me, that's the most disturbing part, that people don't question things or stop two seconds to step back and think about what's being done to them. Well, when they have their thinkineers out there spewing garbage 24/7 to get the public to accept what the "healthineers" are doing, many people tend to pick up and follow along with the language, because they speak in such authoritative tones. "Safe and Effective" comes to mind. "Healthcare" is now safe for those pushing Marxism to destroy individuality and push collectivism in an effective manner. |