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Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?

 
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country.
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I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication.


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I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Just reading the thread title on the front page had me to saying, "Hollywood."

What other reason could there be?....shrug
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There are no reasons. Because there are no reasons.
What reason do you need to die?


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Wow! That's either a really off the wall reply to my post, or I made my canna chocolate milkshake a little too strong tonight....lmfao

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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
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Its all subliminal OP.
You must be young.


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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
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Its all subliminal OP.
You must be young.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


These are writing credits for that song:

All tracks are written by Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea, John Frusciante, Anthony Kiedis, Chad Smith).
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The whole album was produced by only Rick Rubin. That's five people involved enough to affect the message. Who are you blaming?
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
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I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306

Its all subliminal OP.
You must be young.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


These are writing credits for that song:

All tracks are written by Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea, John Frusciante, Anthony Kiedis, Chad Smith).
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The whole album was produced by only Rick Rubin. That's five people involved enough to affect the message. Who are you blaming?
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I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
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Its all subliminal OP.
You must be young.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


These are writing credits for that song:

All tracks are written by Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea, John Frusciante, Anthony Kiedis, Chad Smith).
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The whole album was produced by only Rick Rubin. That's five people involved enough to affect the message. Who are you blaming?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


Blaming?
all songs are subliminal OP.
i guess I`m blaming you for starting the thread.



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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
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I always took that song as a warning. Now I think it may have been subliminal programming to promote Californication.

Dream of Californication

They repeat that over and over. Looking back, it's very much like the movie They Live if the song was meant to be subliminal programming.

GLP started in 1999 (the same year that song was released), and the things mentioned in that song are right out of GLP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306

Its all subliminal OP.
You must be young.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


These are writing credits for that song:

All tracks are written by Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea, John Frusciante, Anthony Kiedis, Chad Smith).
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The whole album was produced by only Rick Rubin. That's five people involved enough to affect the message. Who are you blaming?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306


Blaming?
all songs are subliminal OP.
i guess I`m blaming you for starting the thread.
 Quoting: TheRealRebel


If a song has a subliminal message, it doesn't happen by accident. It has to be planned. Making allegations without evidence doesn't help anyone. Again, who are you blaming for putting the subliminal message in the "Californication"? What is the main subliminal message in the song in your opinion?

These are writing credits for that song:

All tracks are written by Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea, John Frusciante, Anthony Kiedis, Chad Smith).
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The whole album was produced by only Rick Rubin. That's five people involved enough to affect the message.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Was it just the influence of Hollywood with the valley girl accent originating right next to Hollywood?

I am asking because I am watching the video embedded below. The three guys in this video all have distinct, classic valley girl accents. It cheapens the seriousness of the topic. Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?


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Like, Oh my gawd, or you serious right now? Ewwww, girl, cmon now! Don't be ridiculous, sigh frown face😒
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Because it's stellar and bogus.
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Like, totally! rockon
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
"Grody"

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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Just reading the thread title on the front page had me to saying, "Hollywood."

What other reason could there be?....shrug
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There are no reasons. Because there are no reasons.
What reason do you need to die?


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What the Hell?...
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Was it just the influence of Hollywood with the valley girl accent originating right next to Hollywood?

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Having spent much time in Cali back in the day, it started with the valley girls and became 'a thing'.. that their parents hated. So the girls loved it and it spread.

Then Hollyweird picked it up, then the music industry, etc.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
When we got to the mid-west, we were all saying 'hella'.. as in, 'that's hella cool!' And were immediately pegged as being from Cali, which astonished us. Did not realize that's a Cali term. 'hella'
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
They say the reason for southern california accent because mostly southern moved here and the accent is like southern but sped up spoken faster.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
When we got to the mid-west, we were all saying 'hella'.. as in, 'that's hella cool!' And were immediately pegged as being from Cali, which astonished us. Did not realize that's a Cali term. 'hella'
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Gwen Stefani was born and raised in Southern California.


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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
They say the reason for southern california accent because mostly southern moved here and the accent is like southern but sped up spoken faster.
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There's really no logical reason for the valley girl accent to be dominant in English. It's spread all over the world as this man explains.


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That video is so interesting because they were making fun of Valley Girls and showing respect for them simultaneously. I think Elvira was making the point that her generation of Valley Girls was superior. The polish your toenails line was hilarious. It goes to show that the extreme shallowness we see today existed way back then. I can attest to it. I was surrounded by it at the time.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Yeah valley girl has infused into a lot of places. Have you also noticed how a lot of people do not say "for" anymore, they say "fer" instead.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Learn how to speak English

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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
The valley girl voice is for dudes to talk like a female.

Are we not allowed to talk about how every female in Hollywood is male?

Or is it hard for most people to believe?
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
I just clicked on this video randomly, and here's Joe Rogan talking with a Valley Girl accent. Am I in an alternate universe? I don't remember the Valley Girl accent being this prevalent before.

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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Everything starts out on the west coast and slowly migrates east. Malcom Gladwell explains it best.
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It disturbing that every sentence sounds like a question.....I noticed the this speech pattern in a lot of young people nowadaze.....
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Yes. Just about every Gen Z female raises the pitch of their voice at the end of each sentence. It is very distracting.
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Everything starts out on the west coast and slowly migrates east. Malcom Gladwell explains it best.
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Correct. I've live on both coasts and can see it happen in real time.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
You know, like, like and stuff. Like, surely you, like, know what I, like, mean, right?

The 'like' is all pervasive . . . I mentally punch myself when I, like, say it.
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It all goes back to ttown.
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Yeah valley girl has infused into a lot of places. Have you also noticed how a lot of people do not say "for" anymore, they say "fer" instead.
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fer shore!
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Re: Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English?
Depends where in the US, or anywhere. But mostly natural progression insofar as media and social media etc is part of our evolution.

In the the US this dominates.

In the UK it’s Caribbean.

In Australia is Middle Eastern.

In NZ it’s Maori.

See a pattern?





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