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Why did the valley girl accent become dominant in English? | |
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not now
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| not now
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82899410  Russia06/22/2022 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you mean by "stellar"? Are you referring to the video I posted or the valley girl accent? fer sure, dude!  [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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| peterpeccary
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83728273 United States06/22/2022 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am from the Pacific North West and I do not hear an accent. I guess if you were from the South, burbs, motown, British or what ever county, you would not hear your local accent either. The rest of your accents are hard for me to understand and sound loco to me. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83737306 Hong Kong06/22/2022 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oliva Rodrigo has the most pure valley girl accent I think I have heard. She grew up in Southern California, so it's almost mandatory for someone like her. I am not kidding. I grew up in Southern California, and even my mother in her 70s does the valley girl thing frequently. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| TheRealRebel
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83728273 United States06/22/2022 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oliva Rodrigo has the most pure valley girl accent I think I have heard. She grew up in Southern California, so it's almost mandatory for someone like her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306 I am not kidding. I grew up in Southern California, and even my mother in her 70s does the valley girl thing frequently. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I do not hear an accent there either. I mean these people have weird things to say and expressions but I am not hearing a distinct accent they have in common. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83737306 Hong Kong06/22/2022 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The valley girl style of speaking is referred to as an accent such as what the woman in the following video says when she tries to do it. She calls it an accent. Other people call it a dialect: Valspeak or Valley Speak is a social class dialect (or sociolect) said to have originated among materialistic young upper-class white women in Los Angeles’ San Fernando Valley during the 1970s. It came to be more widely popularized after the 1982 release of Frank Zappa’s parody music single Valley Girl in which his teenage daughter, Moon Zappa, monologued in the dialect behind his music. The dialect was also popularized by actresses Tracy Nelson in the TV comedy series Square Pegs (1882-1983), Cassandra Peterson in the role of Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (beginning 1981) and Alicia Silverstone in the film Clueless (1995). [link to www.laalmanac.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83737306 Hong Kong06/22/2022 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it hilarious that the woman in that video uses the valley girl style of speaking way before she does it all the way later on. She has a British accent, so this is evidence for my point that the valley girl style of speaking is dominant in English, but I really shouldn't have to prove that because it's so obvious. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83737306 Hong Kong06/22/2022 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found out what vocal fry is. I haven't noticed it before. Where have you noticed it specifically? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| TheRealRebel
User ID: 79718735 United States06/22/2022 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is kind of sore point for me because I am a little ashamed that I speak that way sometimes. I think I tend to do it when I get a little confused. I think it goes hand in hand with brain fog. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83737306  Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country. Last Edited by TheRealRebel on 06/22/2022 10:33 PM Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82899410 Russia06/22/2022 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Groupies! lol [link to youtu.be (secure)] All the stars can pick and choose their wannabee worshipers to play with. |
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| TheRealRebel
User ID: 79718735 United States06/22/2022 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Elvira is 70 years old now. In that video, she says she used to be a Valley Girl herself. Historians think it all started in the 1970s, but I think based on that video it goes back to at least the 1960s. That video is incredible to me for so many reasons. Yeah Zappa was way ahead of the times...still is. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83737306 Hong Kong06/22/2022 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country. Quoting: TheRealRebel I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication. [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82899410 Russia06/22/2022 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Elvira is 70 years old now. In that video, she says she used to be a Valley Girl herself. Historians think it all started in the 1970s, but I think based on that video it goes back to at least the 1960s. That video is incredible to me for so many reasons. Flight of the Valkyries! lol [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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| TheRealRebel
User ID: 79718735 United States06/22/2022 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends of region OP. There are many dialects that influences the way a person speaks. Its not uncommon to have several distinct ones in one country. Quoting: TheRealRebel I am well aware of that. I think the reason the valley girl accent became dominant in English was what the Red Hot Chili Peppers pointed out in 1999. There was no way to stop Californication. [link to youtube.com (secure)] Many have warned. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research |
| cosmicgypsy
User ID: 80037766 United States06/22/2022 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just reading the thread title on the front page had me to saying, "Hollywood." What other reason could there be?....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| TheRealRebel
User ID: 79718735 United States06/22/2022 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just reading the thread title on the front page had me to saying, "Hollywood." Quoting: cosmicgypsy What other reason could there be?.... There are no reasons. Because there are no reasons. What reason do you need to die? Last Edited by TheRealRebel on 06/22/2022 11:00 PM Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research |
