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Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.

 
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Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Everyone is a merchant, some work for barter? SOmething else?
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
are you trying to ask why "money" has any real value?
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
are you trying to ask why "money" has any real value?
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That and would we have full constant employment if money did not exist?
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Machines produce food , clothing and shelter, ’freeing up human beings to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
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Machines produce food , clothing and shelter, ’freeing up human beings to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
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It also cuts into total employment....
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Trade is trade. You can trade for lots of things besides just a green back piece of paper. I can trade a farmer for some of his grain by repairing his tractor. You can trade the grain you just got in to a restaurant and get some free meals.

That's the natural way of things, that's the natural order. The silver tongue come in and become the head of that order and create banks, and standardized currency.

Everyone has to want the same thing (money) in this new order instead of everyone having unique pursuits and talents creating a true free market. Instead, money weighs the world down as it's the bottleneck of a sole focus.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Everyone is a merchant, some work for barter? SOmething else?
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two thoughts.

even primitive cultures have the concept of "money",
ie favors to be returned. they used sea shells,
carved stones, etc.

they also have a concept of gifting. a leader is
responsible for an equitable collection and
redistribution of goods through gifting and
a dysfuntional leader tends to get desposed.

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Machines produce food , clothing and shelter, ’freeing up human beings to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
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It also cuts into total employment....
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lower work week redistributes income.

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I would download a car like that copyright ad said that came out around the time of Napster and Limewire.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
In the book 'my decent into death' (pages 111 & 112) Howard 5 t 0 r /\/\ is given a glimpse of the future in his near death experience. I'm thinking this is after revelation. We're given spiritual upgrades if you will. We will be telepathic, able to grow fruit and vegetable through will of thought in a matter of minutes, there will no technology, travel time and space by will, have knowledge by contemplation, affect time and matter, heal via prayer and touch and control the weather collectively. As a species we are considered to spiritually immature to posses such things currently. Who knows, sounds amazing though
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Amish.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
gold, silver, and everything in like prison like smokes, booze, candy, commisary

barter is very real and will happen

imagine twinkie for 15 9mm rounds for your glock... its coming

not this year but 5 years from now you are in the middle of the wef NWO and we are all fucked in the middle of red dawn when the chinese UN military comes in under martial law- this is what they want and what is going to happen- and nothing you can do to stop this except go out in a blaze of glory and kil as maqny of these fucks as you can
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Modern barter and trade is very possible - especially in farming / garden communities - could get there in a few steps

Would love to see it catch on :)

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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
the system is the problem, not money
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
the system is the problem, not money
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Exactly
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
It will be the same but less efficient. Physical money is just another “good” or product that is bartered or exchanged.

It is the DEMAND for a product that gives it its value.

The ONLY reasons for the US Dollar having value are:

1. The US government demands that taxes be paid with US Dollars and
2. The US Dollar is/was the world’s reserve currency
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Dude! What if, like, there was no money, man. We would all, like, work, for the betterment of humanity, bruh. And everything would be, like, totally free! Wouldn't it be gnarly?
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
This post is stupid as fuck. If you have a cow you either pay a whole cow for a pencil or you cut off a piece of cow for a pencil, which sort of impairs the value of the rest of the cow. How much are you going to be able to buy with that cow in ten years, when the fucking cow is dead? I'd bet OP doesn't even know what money is. Is the green paper in your wallet money?
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
People will barter their govt rations.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
It would work at the end of a rifle barrel.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
It wouldn’t work, OP. That’s why there has been money for 10,000 years.

Let’s say I make shoes and you grow oranges. You want a pair of shoes but I don’t like oranges. Well you’re out of luck; you’d have to find something that I like, then hope that you can buy it with oranges only to trade it to me for shoes.

Money is meant as a medium of exchange. That’s also why precious metals was that medium for a long time; because it was something of value, unlike paper money which is worth… paper.

Anyway money as a medium of exchange isn’t the problem. The problem comes once banking was introduced and money lending.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Not saying it is THE solution, but it is an option. “Resource Based Economy”.

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ask a Sri Lankan:

Sri Lanka's economy has "completely collapsed," Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe said Wednesday, as the crisis-hit nation faces an increasingly dire situation that has left millions struggling with fuel, electricity and food shortages.
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Giants. End of story.
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No, CHAOS.

You finish your work week and boss asks you,
do you want a leg of lamb? or would you rather
have lumber? How about some nice kitchen faucet?

BARTER, which, if there is no more medium of exchange,
is what it all devolves into, is the most MISERABLE,
INEFFICIENT system of trade imaginable.

These hippie dreaming, dumbbells have NO IDEA
how bad that could get.

They imagine some heavenly commune, which has been
tried OVER and OVER and OVER and has NEVER worked,
because PEOPLE are involved.

We have already let these assholes bring America
to the brink of ruin,
DO YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR VERY LIFE IN THEIR HANDS?

I would MUCH rather have a BROKEN system that WORKS,
than CHAOS, which DOES NOT WORK AT ALL.
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Pure barter is a bad bad system. Too many people with incompatible trades which creates a rise of merchants taking advantage of this. This is why society always has some money system. You want to trade your goods for a universally wanted asset. Money will change, but it will never die
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Re: Explain how the system would work if we did not have money.
Everyone is a merchant, some work for barter? SOmething else?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83725335


Guilds and professions. Artisans and traders.

You weave baskets.

I raise chickens.

I give you eggs... you give me a basket.

Community. Providing what each other needs and sharing freely.

One makes sturdy tables another cares for pets (vet).

No money changes... your dog is sick you take them to the person/people trained in that. If you are a carpenter, you make them something they need or they can exchange for something else.

It would require CARE and intimacy between people. Knowing what you do, love and can provide and sharing those skills with others.

This is exactly what they don't want, because not only is it devoid of money but also governance. A community would be self-sufficient, peaceful and unified.

You would train and teach your children in the craft you know, unless they show passion and aptitude for another profession... than they would follow that path.

But all would be productive and helpful in some way.

Even retards and disabled, etc. could have value in helping with simple tasks giving them purpose.

The way current society is run is combative, competitive, aggressive and more importantly controlled. It's OBSOLETE.

It also encourages and rewards people that do not contribute. Because it is trying to create a need to rule, control and have dependency on the system instead of the self.
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