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The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart

 
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“Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.”


*********************** (21 Stars( ; )
The SPIRIT OF GOD came and rested on Jesus as HE

was baptized as an example (for US).

The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

THE SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS ITSELF !

“The Bereans being more noble searched the SCRIPTURE daily

to see if what Paul taught was TRUTH”-the ONLY SCRIPTURE they

had at that point was the OLD TESTAMENT !

Paul taught JESUS using the OLD TESTAMENT !
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With no evidence for an ancient Mecca, and the earliest mosques not pointing either to Mecca or to Jerusalem but in fact the ancient city of Petra, the question is: Did islam start in Petra in ancient Edom? Timeline documentary with 9 million views so far on what modern archeology now shows, presented by the one that discovered this, Dan Gibson:



We know from the bible the edomites intermarried with the ishmaelites (arabs). What do muslims believe, and what conclusion can non-muslims that read the bible draw from this?
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There are all those buildings carved in Petra even a Christain Church up in the mountains carved by the same people. I was still going on during the time of Muhammad, people had lived there for a long time. People of the Book.
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There were obiously lots of christian arabs especially in the northern area, but thats not relevant regarding the topic here which are the beginnings of islam. Here we talk about where the story of muhammed started, and as you see in the documentary, it all points to Petra.
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the fire speaking to Moses....you're 100% right
I am GOD says the fire to moses...

that's where IRAN-ISraEll came from...now all in black fire for people who can SEE all is ONE from ONE going back to ONE

better not be a warZero cowART
Unity of all THINGS - TAOheed is not binary - never it will BE a Zeero

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The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.
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FALSE.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

JESUS is the Holy Spirit.

NOT "the third person of god", you pagan antichrist.
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Youre the one that claims the Holy spirit is Jesus,
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2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Paul wasn't a trinitarian.

He taught that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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THE SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS ITSELF !
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EXACTLY, AND THE SCRIPTURE REVEALS THAT JESUS IS THE HOLY SPIRIT.
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The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

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crazyjak

Jesus said:

“Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to ME by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus said no third person or trinity.
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“Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.”


*********************** (21 Stars( ; )
The SPIRIT OF GOD came and rested on Jesus as HE

was baptized as an example (for US).

The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

THE SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS ITSELF !

“The Bereans being more noble searched the SCRIPTURE daily

to see if what Paul taught was TRUTH”-the ONLY SCRIPTURE they

had at that point was the OLD TESTAMENT !

Paul taught JESUS using the OLD TESTAMENT !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74900468


he's just trolling, it seems to give him lots of joy for some reason and he can go on mindless rants for hours, theres another thread here i posted where he sat here for days and posted long rants even though we all know its silly... just ignore him

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The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74900468


1 John 2:1
We have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ.

1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and people; a person, Christ Jesus,
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Gee I wonder who this pesky "third person" is who keeps trying to come between us and Jesus and the Father.

The Bible says Jesus is the only mediator and the only way to God.

Hmm maybe it's that spirit of antichrist. Oh yeah it is.
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
I look at the pictures I am guessing are older pictures, they look more as the Chinese look than Arab, or is this just me?
I see very little in those pictures of them today.

Likewise, I need to do some more digging into the history of that timeline.
Sorry I got a headache

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women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.
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FALSE.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41356847


John 1:3-4
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Get it?

The Spirit and the Word are the same person. Not two distinct persons.
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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"We wuz kangz and shait"

No you werent. Youre no different than anyone else. Afrosupremacists are as redicilous as the nazis. Get off your high horse and bow to who you probably would consider a white man (you think that about mexicans etc too) before its too late: Middle eastern Jesus, so Jesus can forgive you for your racism.
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You're just as racist and Jesus will probably spit in your face
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“Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.”


*********************** (21 Stars( ; )
The SPIRIT OF GOD came and rested on Jesus as HE

was baptized as an example (for US).

The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

THE SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS ITSELF !

“The Bereans being more noble searched the SCRIPTURE daily

to see if what Paul taught was TRUTH”-the ONLY SCRIPTURE they

had at that point was the OLD TESTAMENT !

Paul taught JESUS using the OLD TESTAMENT !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74900468


he's just trolling, it seems to give him lots of joy for some reason and he can go on mindless rants for hours, theres another thread here i posted where he sat here for days and posted long rants even though we all know its silly... just ignore him
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You're a fucking scumbag maybe you should take the Bible quotes out of your signature you make Christians look bad
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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bsflag
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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You can't steal something from nothing.

There is nothing in Africa even today.

Except Sh*t People, plenty of Sh*t People.

Not even a written language lol.

Dumbest "people" on Earth.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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You can't steal something from nothing.

There is nothing in Africa even today.

Except Sh*t People, plenty of Sh*t People.

Not even a written language lol.

Dumbest "people" on Earth.
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Don't worry God will burn that nastiness right out of you fucking little f4gg0t
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Fascinating stuff and pretty undeniable - what in the world are the muslims going to make of this if it ever becomes common knowledge - the Saudis stand to lose big-time over this and the whole Islamic leadership are going to look like idiots.
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With no evidence for an ancient Mecca, and the earliest mosques not pointing either to Mecca or to Jerusalem but in fact the ancient city of Petra, the question is: Did islam start in Petra in ancient Edom? Timeline documentary with 9 million views so far on what modern archeology now shows, presented by the one that discovered this, Dan Gibson:



We know from the bible the edomites intermarried with the ishmaelites (arabs). What do muslims believe, and what conclusion can non-muslims that read the bible draw from this?
 Quoting: Just†Me


For later. Sounds interesting.
EVERYTHING the MSM tells you IS A LIE, with a specific PURPOSE.

WE WILL KEEP OUR FREEDOM!

Jesus Christ is my personal friend and hero.
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1. Islam is not a religion. Get sucked into "religious" argument and all is lost to asymmetrical warfare against blasphemy laws.

2. Islam is a non-secular GOVERNMENT.

3. Islam is a Totalitarian Dictatorship non-secular GOVERNMENT.

4. The 2030 Vision plan is the culmination of the 7 Phase Plan of the Caliphate putting MECCA as the center of the World as the Capitol. 100% world population of Muslims. All required to make a pilgrimage to MECCA (to feed the Jabba).
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Fascinating stuff and pretty undeniable - what in the world are the muslims going to make of this if it ever becomes common knowledge - the Saudis stand to lose big-time over this and the whole Islamic leadership are going to look like idiots.
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The Saudis don't plan on losing.

Their conquest started on 911, the Awakening, not many people listened. Now this is their territory that grow daily with ISIS, Boko Haram, and other Military Special Forces who slaughter millions as it expands:

mapmapmap
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“Matthew 11:27
All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

Jesus says no trinity. Deal with it, pagan.”


*********************** (21 Stars( ; )
The SPIRIT OF GOD came and rested on Jesus as HE

was baptized as an example (for US).

The SPIRIT IS THE THIRD PERSON OF GOD.

The SPIRIT interprets what our soul needs and then

gives it to God the FATHER.

THE SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS ITSELF !

“The Bereans being more noble searched the SCRIPTURE daily

to see if what Paul taught was TRUTH”-the ONLY SCRIPTURE they

had at that point was the OLD TESTAMENT !

Paul taught JESUS using the OLD TESTAMENT !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74900468


he's just trolling, it seems to give him lots of joy for some reason and he can go on mindless rants for hours, theres another thread here i posted where he sat here for days and posted long rants even though we all know its silly... just ignore him
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You're a fucking scumbag maybe you should take the Bible quotes out of your signature you make Christians look bad
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No, im no scumbag. YOU are the scumbag. And youre no christian either, like the binatarian troll.
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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bsflag
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CIRA international, youtube playlist with more details on Dan Gibsons research:

[link to youtube.com (secure)]

Islams fraudulent origins, playlist on pfander films (theres lots more to dig into here):

[link to youtube.com (secure)]
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Eternal life in paradise. I have seen this with my own eyes, and you have not! What does it look like? Well it's very bright place and you will be shinning like the sun!

Islam = eternal life = sweet!
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YOU GUY HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING. Watch this brother tell how Africans were first in America and there were no slave ships,,etc,,,,he is coo coo, im talking seriously ill.

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YOU GUY HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING. Watch this brother tell how Africans were first in America and there were no slave ships,,etc,,,,he is coo coo, im talking seriously ill.


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Yes, and heres 7 ancient cultures that reached america before Columbus:



White french solutreans inhabited ice age america:



....etc etc, but the sum of alot of this, fits the story of the flood in the bible. Beside "is genesis history" which I highly recomend, people here can search for more strange things like evidence for ancient cities deep in the ocean etc.

So your point is what? What are you trying to say by posting this in a thread about islam?

Last Edited by Just†Me on 06/24/2022 08:34 AM
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GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING

IN HIM IS LIFE

IN YOURSELF IS DEATH

IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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"We wuz kangz and shait"

No you werent. Youre no different than anyone else. Afrosupremacists are as redicilous as the nazis. Get off your high horse and bow to who you probably would consider a white man (you think that about mexicans etc too) before its too late: Middle eastern Jesus, so Jesus can forgive you for your racism.
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Jesus was a brother, honk
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just shut up dumbass.
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all 4 main religions were stolen from Africa. not only islam. wtf is Rome the HQ of Christianity? Buddha is stolen as well.


everything is stolen from there.
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Rome is the HQ of Roman Catholicism, not Christianity.
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Re: The Mecca mystery, islams standard historical narrative is falling apart
Pretty much everything about Islam is a lie. Some Muslims are great people. But there’s over 2 billion of them and about 25% are radicals. That’s about 500,000,000 that are willing to lie, steal, cheat and kill in the name of Islam.

In fact, some of them come to this website to brainwash westerners to hate Israel and the you know who.





GLP