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Vaccines ineffective at lowering severity of covid variants

 
Radagast the Brown

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Omicron subvariants escape antibodies elicited by vaccination
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That's ok, they have new vaccines coming out, even for 6 month old babies.

Get in line for your new shot schedule.
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Variants are not the same virus makeup that why they are called variants most of the end variants are weak.
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BUT THERE ARE NO VARIENTS TO FAKE COVID.. IT DOES NOT EXIST AND AGAIN.. AND I POST IT OVER AND OVER.. THE VARIANTS ARE THE NAMES OF MILITARY OPERATIONS...

MOST OF YOU GOT SALINE.. SOME GOT REAL MRNA AND ARE NOW IMMUNE TO RNA VIRUSES AND SOME WERE SHOT DEAD AS IN MURDER...

THERE ARE NO CLOT SHOTS.. THE CLOTTING IS DUE TO THE WEAKENING MAGNETOSPHERE.

Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 06/23/2022 12:21 PM
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Omicron subvariants escape antibodies elicited by vaccination
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83703216

From the article :

"25 individuals received two doses of BBIBP-CorV. Using an in-house pseudovirus neutralisation assay we found that two BBIBP-CorV doses induced detectable neutralising antibodies against spike protein mutation D614G in 21 (84%) individuals, but neutralising activity against omicron subvariants (BA.1, BA.2, BA.2.11, BA.2.12.1, BA.2.13, and BA.4/BA.5) was not or only minimally detectable."

What is BBIBP-CorV?

"The Sinopharm BIBP COVID-19 vaccine, also known as BBIBP-CorV, the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine, or BIBP vaccine, is one of two whole inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccines developed by Sinopharm's Beijing Institute of Biological Products ..."

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So these aren't the MRNA-type pseudo-vaccines.
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original antigenic sin

“The science” is religion
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Variants are not the same virus makeup that why they are called variants most of the end variants are weak.
 Quoting: hankie


BUT THERE ARE NO VARIENTS TO FAKE COVID.. IT DOES NOT EXIST AND AGAIN.. AND I POST IT OVER AND OVER.. THE VARIANTS ARE THE NAMES OF MILITARY OPERATIONS...

MOST OF YOU GOT SALINE.. SOME GOT REAL MRNA AND ARE NOW IMMUNE TO RNA VIRUSES AND SOME WERE SHOT DEAD AS IN MURDER...

THERE ARE NO CLOT SHOTS.. THE CLOTTING IS DUE TO THE WEAKENING MAGNETOSPHERE.
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


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Vaxxies refuse to believe this shit!

Vaxxies demand their monthly boosters!

NOW.
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They r like Crack addicts jonesin for their next booster.
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Omicron subvariants escape antibodies elicited by vaccination
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83703216


"The BA.1, BA.2, and BA.3 omicron subvariants of SARS-CoV-2 showed similar but substantial resistance to vaccine-induced and infection-induced serum neutralising activity.1
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The new BA.2.12.1, BA.2.13, BA.4, and BA.5 omicron subvariants containing Leu452 substitutions show more infectious potential than BA.2.3
We examined neutralising activity against the BA.1, BA.2, BA.2.11, BA.2.12.1, BA.2.13, BA.4, and BA.5 omicron subvariants in serum from people who received BBIBP-CorV (Sinopharm) primary immunisation, people who received BBIBP-CorV or ZF2001 (Anhui Zhifei Longcom) boosters, and people with omicron breakthrough infections"

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"substantial resistance to vaccine-induced and infection-induced serum neutralising activity"
"Natural Immunity" is also a big fail against these variants.
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Note these Chinese researchers are only testing the immunity provided by the Chinese vaccine/boosters BBIBP-CorV or ZF2001 (Anhui Zhifei Longcom) boosters.

They did not study the vaccines used in the USA or Western Europe.

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Omicron subvariants escape antibodies elicited by vaccination
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83703216


That's because the adaptive immune system is hamstrung by the MRNA programming. Body cannot mount an effective defense. All thanks to the "safe and effective" vaxxine.
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I've read that it actually has a negative efficacy.
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You get a short lived improvement in efficacy and then it deteriorates and you're left off worse than before - and worse than the control group - the unvaccinated.

Check out Slide 3

www.walgreens (dot) com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp


The more shots the worse it gets.
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Omicron subvariants escape antibodies elicited by vaccination
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83703216


This study is about Sinpharm and BBIBP-CorV booster. Neither used in US nor UK.

and by this I'm not meaning Pfizer would NOT be a full crap, only that the subject is not relevant to natives english speaking people
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So why are they trying to vaxx children?
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The deadly covid shots do not work at ALL against whatever COVID is supposed to be, and also they are deadly.

SCAM SCAM SCAM
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Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN.
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I've read that it actually has a negative efficacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82943093


hesright


It does, in every aspect.


After getting mRNA jabbed, a person is:

1. More likely to become infected

2. More likely to pass it onto others

3. More likely to experience a severe case needing more extensive medical care


Several studies, along with real world evidence in countries like Israel, prove this.
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4. Unlikely to develop natural immunity, hence #5

5. More likely to be re-infected with covid numerous times
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Follow the narrative....oops, I mean "science"

...fucking suckers
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In a nutshell yet another of their journal papers allegedly demonstrating that big pharma have induced original antigen sin in the people swayed and coerced to take these injections.

See, now people will need future covid injections to wash away their original sin……it’s all religion under the guise of science
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78393032


Have you seen this article:
"Vaccination washes away original antigenic sin"

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This sounds ridiculous but looking for additional opinions.
The argument is that supposedly vaccination triggers the germinal centers but not natural immunity.

The argument is that neutralizing antibodies are produced on the spike and not other segments of the virus.

I would expect exactly the opposite and population studies out of Israel and 2nd CDC study confirm that natural immunity is 13x better.
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Fauci and his gang of "Epidemiologists" need to school.
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But they keep you from DYING, right?

Unless they don't.
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But they keep you from DYING, right?

Unless they don't.
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They dont even keep you from dying of covid.

They literally have no other purpose than to fuck you up.
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So why are they trying to vaxx children?
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dude if you haven't figured that out by now....


sheesh
And this is why we can't have nice things.
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and their Paxlovid does not do anything either.

They have had two years to come up with something that works or combine information of what has worked for Doctors (Vitamin D recommendations ect..) but I think this really is not about Covid anymore.

This is either transhumanism gone wrong or calculated extermination.
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Variants are not the same virus makeup that why they are called variants most of the end variants are weak.
 Quoting: hankie


BUT THERE ARE NO VARIENTS TO FAKE COVID.. IT DOES NOT EXIST AND AGAIN.. AND I POST IT OVER AND OVER.. THE VARIANTS ARE THE NAMES OF MILITARY OPERATIONS...

MOST OF YOU GOT SALINE.. SOME GOT REAL MRNA AND ARE NOW IMMUNE TO RNA VIRUSES AND SOME WERE SHOT DEAD AS IN MURDER...

THERE ARE NO CLOT SHOTS.. THE CLOTTING IS DUE TO THE WEAKENING MAGNETOSPHERE.
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


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I am NOT A FUCKING RETARD OK.. ones that believe the lies are fucking retards... or simply glue to the TV matrix.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Variants are not the same virus makeup that why they are called variants most of the end variants are weak.
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AND I REPEAT... COVID 19 IS A SPECIAL OPERATION .. NOT A DISEASE.. AND THE VARIANTS ARE THE NAMES OF DIFFERENT MILITARY OPERATIONS.. AND EVERY TIME SOME PLACE GETS SHUT DOWN THERE IS A MILITARY OPERATION GOING ON.. IT S TIME TO WAKE UP
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


Every case of Covid that a vaxxed person contracts is like a wound to the body. It is a slow-kill bioweapon that is meant to weaken and destroy so there will not be questions.
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