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it would look like FREEDOM. hell yea!
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Too good to be true unfortunately. TPTB won't let that happen.
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the commerce clause only gives authority to ensure proper transport across state lines, and regulating interstate tarriffs

it doesn't give the authority to regulate WHAT is traded between states, only the manner in which it is transported, and how states can tax that trade
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the commerce clause only gives authority to ensure proper transport across state lines, and regulating interstate tarriffs

it doesn't give the authority to regulate WHAT is traded between states, only the manner in which it is transported, and how states can tax that trade
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and once a good or service has been traded and is being used within a state, that authority is gone, no more fed power to regulate that good or service at all
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That would drain a good part of the swamp
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clappa WTAF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bump
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the commerce clause only gives authority to ensure proper transport across state lines, and regulating interstate tarriffs

it doesn't give the authority to regulate WHAT is traded between states, only the manner in which it is transported, and how states can tax that trade
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Exactly, and the feds claim this clause to enact nearly all of their authority. This claim has been illegal since the beginning, probably 95% of all Federal laws are unconstitutional. They've been getting away with this behavior for more than 100 years.
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do you think when the constitution was written it was intended that after say a gun was sold from delaware to maryland that the federal government had any more authority to regulate that gun at all ??

obviously not .. it wouldn't have been called the "commerce clause"
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That would drain a good part of the swamp
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This........^
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the commerce clause only gives authority to ensure proper transport across state lines, and regulating interstate tarriffs

it doesn't give the authority to regulate WHAT is traded between states, only the manner in which it is transported, and how states can tax that trade
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Exactly, and the feds claim this clause to enact nearly all of their authority. This claim has been illegal since the beginning, probably 95% of all Federal laws are unconstitutional. They've been getting away with this behavior for more than 100 years.
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actually the legal basis for ruling against EPA wouldn't be based on commerce clause limitation but something with less drastic (but possibly still great) consequences

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The crux of the debate concerns something called the “major questions” doctrine — the idea, debated by judges over the past two decades, that executive branch actions with “vast economic or political significance” should face an extra-high hurdle to winning the courts’ approval. In those cases, the agencies would need explicit authority from Congress for the actions they’re taking.

Some conservative justices have embraced an even more aggressive doctrine, known as “nondelegation,” that would prohibit Congress from handing off big decisions to agencies at all. That could throw a huge legal cloud over landmark laws enacted in past decades, including the Clean Air Act.

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Americans engage in "TRADE" (our world)
Governments engage in "COMMERCE" (their world)

They have the power to "regulate" themselves, but not us.

Just like McDonnalds can set rules for their employees

They have NO power to regulate Americans for any reason.

They are OUR employees. We have the power to regulate them.
We are the employer, not the other way around.

What they are engaging in is deceit. We never granted them
that power, it's just the bullshit like the tell you, and
a lot of americans believe their bullshit - but it's just not true.

You cant "strip" what you never had to begin with.
They should be put in jail, and charged with treason.
And perhaps a 2nd treason charge for stealing the election.
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We could only dream.
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One can only hope!
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What about the IRS? That would be a biggie.
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Holy sweet fuckin jeebus, the impact this could possibly have on gun laws could restore 2A to its original glory.
All gun laws would fall back on states rights, and then those could be chipped away at from there until we could be able to have the same planes that this scumbag impostor in cheif threatened to use against us.
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What about the IRS? That would be a biggie.
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hesright
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states rights to regulate how the state sees fit.
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states rights to regulate how the state sees fit.
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each state is like it's own country, so this will make it moreso like that.
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sweet. doubt we can get that lucky.
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Think about it like this... just about everything is illegal unless you are granted permission

examples:

Hunting/Trapping/Fishing License
Drivers License
Occupational/Professional Licenses
Business License
Amateur Radio/FCC
Boat Tags, Car Tags

Permits.. sales tax, zoning, occupational, health

Food, wine/beer/alcohol, tobacco, weed

I can go on and on

Everything is illegal
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Holy sweet fuckin jeebus, the impact this could possibly have on gun laws could restore 2A to its original glory.
All gun laws would fall back on states rights, and then those could be chipped away at from there until we could be able to have the same planes that this scumbag impostor in cheif threatened to use against us.
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yes, indeed.
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Think about it like this... just about everything is illegal unless you are granted permission

examples:

Hunting/Trapping/Fishing License
Drivers License
Occupational/Professional Licenses
Business License
Amateur Radio/FCC
Boat Tags, Car Tags

Permits.. sales tax, zoning, occupational, health

Food, wine/beer/alcohol, tobacco, weed

I can go on and on

Everything is illegal
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no, it's not illegal unless there are laws making it illegal.
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It's almost like Christmas.

And that worries me.
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goodbye DOE, CDC, DOJ, etc.
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europe needs to ensure the EU is not doing to eurooean countries what has been done to the states here.
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and public hangings for those who promoted the entire covid hoax/vaccine hoax..


hang them all high...
And this is why we can't have nice things.
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Good.

All these regulatory agencies should be kicked back to the states.

The executive branch of federal government has far exceeded its constitutional authority.

Bye bye DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION!

See ya!

Decentralize!

Smash the FED!

States rise!

The people are back!

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